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Kymmy 08-03-2012 16:27

Superhub install tomorrow
 
As the search will bring up 1000's of threads can anyone give me a quick tolerance range for up/down power levels and also SNR ranges for the superhub as I'm getting 50Mb installed tomorrow. Just want to be able to check the levels before the engineer leaves

Thanks in advance

qasdfdsaq 08-03-2012 16:49

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
It's the engineer's job to check the levels, but for reference the recommended range is:

-7 to +7dB downstream and the closer to zero the better
At least 35dB SNR
35-55dB upstream.

Kymmy 08-03-2012 17:01

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Thank you Qasi :kiss:

Currently on my old 2050 modem I get

Upstream 38.0 dBmV
Downstream 5.8 dBmV
SNR 41.0 dB

judgey 08-03-2012 18:03

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
ive been told

-5 to +5
and 40-50 Upstream

jb66 08-03-2012 18:18

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Optimum is -3 to +7

Upstream 35 to 55

Your signals are perfect, I wouldn't waste an attenuator on that

qasdfdsaq 08-03-2012 18:36

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Pah they did some stuff in Edinburgh that dropped my downstream levels from -3 to -8. Had a 15dB FPA on and can't find my 10, so my choices now are -8 with the attenuator or +12 without it. Urgh.

thenry 08-03-2012 18:41

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
so unfair I missed this thread..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35395734)
Thank you Qasi :kiss:

yeah thanks Qasi :fit:

Kymmy 08-03-2012 18:52

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
My only worry is that I want the 2050 leaving on as well for the next 45 days, will this effect the signal much having two on the same cable? For reference it'll be the only two devices as I don't bother with TV

thenry 08-03-2012 18:56

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
whats a 2050

Kymmy 08-03-2012 18:58

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Modem, a bit like a 250 but with more memory and NAT capability

jb66 08-03-2012 19:29

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35395817)
Pah they did some stuff in Edinburgh that dropped my downstream levels from -3 to -8. Had a 15dB FPA on and can't find my 10, so my choices now are -8 with the attenuator or +12 without it. Urgh.

LOL, -8 + 15 = 7 Take it off


Edinburgh is split with many types of architecture, has your upstream changed

qasdfdsaq 08-03-2012 21:48

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35395852)
LOL, -8 + 15 = 7 Take it off


Edinburgh is split with many types of architecture, has your upstream changed

Yeah but the FPA is weird - I took it off and it went to +12.

Yeah, my upstream changed, but not until a few weeks after my downstream did.

Kymmy 09-03-2012 08:44

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Engineers been, levels are (with 8 downstream channels running)
Quote:

Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 32 55616000 Kbits/sec 323000000 Hz 6.7 dBmV 42.4 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 25 55616000 Kbits/sec 267000000 Hz 7.7 dBmV 43.2 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 26 55616000 Kbits/sec 275000000 Hz 7.7 dBmV 43.6 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 27 55616000 Kbits/sec 283000000 Hz 7.3 dBmV 43.2 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 28 55616000 Kbits/sec 291000000 Hz 6.9 dBmV 42.9 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 29 55616000 Kbits/sec 299000000 Hz 8.3 dBmV 43.1 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 30 55616000 Kbits/sec 307000000 Hz 7.7 dBmV 43.2 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 31 55616000 Kbits/sec 315000000 Hz 7.4 dBmV 42.3 dB Hybrid
Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked ATDMA 2 20480 Kbits/sec 35800000 Hz 38.3 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
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thenry 09-03-2012 09:32

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Those down power levels could be a little lower.

8 down channels.. very nice. would you be willing to set up a ping monitor :D

Kymmy 09-03-2012 10:13

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Already set one up, also the 10Mb virgin Media business modem's still attached so I can compare the two graphs

---------- Post added at 10:13 ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 ----------

Naughty engineer never left me a "Wireless N adaptor" Have used the "contact us" pages to see if I can get one

thenry 09-03-2012 10:49

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
whats your ping monitor like on 8 down channels? yup you should have got a free one. call 150/151.

Kymmy 09-03-2012 10:50

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Will post the ping monitor later once I've had a good 8 hours on it.

qasdfdsaq 09-03-2012 11:04

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35396145)

Naughty engineer never left me a "Wireless N adaptor" Have used the "contact us" pages to see if I can get one

Naughty engineer didn't bother fixing the power levels either. :rolleyes:

8 downstreams and 1 upstream. Yikes.

Kymmy 09-03-2012 16:15

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
They've dropped slightly now

Quote:

Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 32 55616000 Kbits/sec 323000000 Hz 6.3 dBmV 42.6 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 25 55616000 Kbits/sec 267000000 Hz 7.3 dBmV 43.2 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 26 55616000 Kbits/sec 275000000 Hz 7.2 dBmV 43.5 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 27 55616000 Kbits/sec 283000000 Hz 6.9 dBmV 43.0 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 28 55616000 Kbits/sec 291000000 Hz 6.0 dBmV 42.8 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 29 55616000 Kbits/sec 299000000 Hz 7.5 dBmV 43.1 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 30 55616000 Kbits/sec 307000000 Hz 7.1 dBmV 43.3 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 31 55616000 Kbits/sec 315000000 Hz 6.8 dBmV 42.7 dB Hybrid
Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked ATDMA 1 20480 Kbits/sec 45800000 Hz 40.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Primary Downstream Service Flow
Downstream(0)
SFID 43986
Max Traffic Rate 53000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
Upstream(0)
SFID 52297
Max Traffic Rate 5140000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 8160 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 8160 bytes
Scheduling Type Best Effort

Kymmy 15-03-2012 14:43

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Dropped even more now
Quote:

Connection
Startup Procedure
Procedure Status Comment
Acquire Downstream Channel 323000000 Hz Locked
Connectivity State OK Operational
Boot State OK Operational
Configuration File OK
Security Enabled BPI+
Downstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power SNR Docsis/EuroDocsis locked
Locked QAM256 32 55616000 Kbits/sec 323000000 Hz 4.3 dBmV 42.5 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 25 55616000 Kbits/sec 267000000 Hz 5.1 dBmV 42.5 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 26 55616000 Kbits/sec 275000000 Hz 5.0 dBmV 43.4 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 27 55616000 Kbits/sec 283000000 Hz 4.5 dBmV 43.1 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 28 55616000 Kbits/sec 291000000 Hz 4.1 dBmV 43.0 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 29 55616000 Kbits/sec 299000000 Hz 5.5 dBmV 42.9 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 30 55616000 Kbits/sec 307000000 Hz 5.1 dBmV 42.5 dB Hybrid
Locked QAM256 31 55616000 Kbits/sec 315000000 Hz 5.0 dBmV 42.1 dB Hybrid
Upstream Channels
Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Max Raw Bit Rate Frequency Power
Locked ATDMA 1 20480 Kbits/sec 45800000 Hz 41.8 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Unlocked Unknown 0 0 Ksym/sec 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV
Primary Downstream Service Flow
Downstream(0)
SFID 43986
Max Traffic Rate 53000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
Upstream(0)
SFID 52297
Max Traffic Rate 5140000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 8160 bytes
Mix Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 8160 bytes
Scheduling Type Best Effort
Current System Time:Thu Mar 15 14:42:29 2012

jb66 15-03-2012 15:38

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Better too high than too low, they'll dip with the warmer weather, I'd stick with those

qasdfdsaq 15-03-2012 17:19

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
You know what else dips with the warmer weather?

jb66 15-03-2012 17:37

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35400247)
You know what else dips with the warmer weather?

The overall sales of wooly hats?

ccarmock 16-03-2012 22:16

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
might be worth putting one of these on:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORWARD-PA...item2a1ab2b7eb

craigj2k12 17-03-2012 01:28

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
for £6.25 id say buggeroff - paid £1.99 for my FPA's off ebay

qasdfdsaq 17-03-2012 01:42

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Or VM supply them free, if they're needed.

jb66 17-03-2012 07:43

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarmock (Post 35401098)
might be worth putting one of these on:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORWARD-PA...item2a1ab2b7eb

3dbs are pointless

KDBCOM 17-03-2012 08:59

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
I only have 4 downstream channels is that right ??? or is there a problem, have had major issues lately with broadband. They replaced the old cable modem with the super hub, this still caused problems as I had to wait 4hours + to get the steady blue light & service & every time I turned hub off it took this time to come on.
Not sure if fault is cleared now but powered down 3 times last night & hub booted up ok but have not risked turning hub off now in case the problem recurs.

Does the Super Hub have a built in Firewall ???

Mick Fisher 17-03-2012 15:58

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KDBCOM (Post 35401197)
I only have 4 downstream channels is that right ??? or is there a problem, have had major issues lately with broadband. They replaced the old cable modem with the super hub, this still caused problems as I had to wait 4hours + to get the steady blue light & service & every time I turned hub off it took this time to come on.
Not sure if fault is cleared now but powered down 3 times last night & hub booted up ok but have not risked turning hub off now in case the problem recurs.

Does the Super Hub have a built in Firewall ???

Yep, but like a lot of features on this device, it doesn't seem to work properly.

I believe the popular consensus is to turn it off. :dozey: :rolleyes:

KDBCOM 17-03-2012 16:54

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Thanks Mick, does anyone know where & how to turn it on/ off

Kymmy 17-03-2012 17:17

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Advanced menu >> Content Filtering >> Services to change the firewall settings

KDBCOM 17-03-2012 19:34

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Thanks Kymmy

Is a downloadable manual available for the Superhub

Kymmy 17-03-2012 19:41

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
http://www.virginmedia.com/superhub

Not exactly a manual but has an online userguide..

There's also this guide

http://www.virginmedia.com/myvirginm...rhub-guide.pdf

KDBCOM 18-03-2012 08:51

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Thanks will copy that pdf over

Kymmy 26-03-2012 19:03

Re: Superhub install tomorrow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35396145)
Naughty engineer never left me a "Wireless N adaptor" Have used the "contact us" pages to see if I can get one

That was on the 9th and we've only just got a phone call from a CS agent..

Firstly they denied that they gave these out and insisted that I pointed out to him where on the website it say wireless N adaptor, so I pointed him towards
http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-50mb.html where it says "Free Virgin Media Super Hub wireless 'N' modem router plus wireless 'N' adapter"

He's gonna send one through though he's had to put it through as an order with the same amount discounted back :rolleyes:


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