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Jimmy-J 14-06-2017 05:54

Huge fire at West London tower block
 
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Desperate residents are building ropes from sheets in an attempt to escape a huge inferno that has engulfed a tower block in west London.

The 'horrendous' blaze struck the 27-storey Grenfell Tower in Latimer Road, White City, in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Several people are being treated for a 'range of injuries' including illness from smoke inhalation. One neighbour said he believed someone had jumped from the block.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...wer-block.html

denphone 14-06-2017 07:46

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l have a fear that there are going to be quite a few fatalities.:(

Jimmy-J 14-06-2017 08:47

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I'm sure there will be many lives lost, and some of them will be children. Lots of families lived there.

Number of fatalities confirmed.

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Regular readers of this blog will know that we have posted numerous warnings in recent years about the very poor fire safety standards at Grenfell Tower and elsewhere in RBKC.

ALL OUR WARNINGS FELL ON DEAF EARS and we predicted that a catastrophe like this was inevitable and just a matter of time.
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpres...ll-tower-fire/

Chris 14-06-2017 09:45

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:(

Osem 14-06-2017 11:56

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Terrible. Sadly it's inconceivable that many lives haven't been lost here in the most appalling manner. With the exterior of the building so extensively damaged I'd have thought the cladding applied to it might be a factor in that but we're obviously going to have to wait for the experts to confirm what caused the fire, why it spread so rapidly and why, according to witnesses, the block's fire alarms failed.

Let's hope this doesn't turn out to be as big a tragedy as it's starting to look. Thoughts and prayers for all those who've died, lost loved ones and been injured.

denphone 14-06-2017 12:44

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Six people have been confirmed dead after a huge fire raged through the night at a west London tower block, and police expect that number to rise.:(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625

Damien 14-06-2017 12:52

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35903313)
Terrible. Sadly it's inconceivable that many lives haven't been lost here in the most appalling manner. With the exterior of the building so extensively damaged I'd have thought the cladding applied to it might be a factor in that but we're obviously going to have to wait for the experts to confirm what caused the fire, why it spread so rapidly and why, according to witnesses, the block's fire alarms failed.

Not just that but apparently residents have complained for months, years even, about the poor safety of the building. Faulty wiring and so on.

Look at this blog from November from tenants in the building: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpres...ing-with-fire/

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It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO, and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders. We believe that the KCTMO are an evil, unprincipled, mini-mafia who have no business to be charged with the responsibility of looking after the every day management of large scale social housing estates and that their sordid collusion with the RBKC Council is a recipe for a future major disaster.


In the aftermath of the Adair Tower fire the London Fire Brigade found that the KCTMO had not been looking after the safety of residents properly and issued an Enforcement Order compelling them to improve the fire safety in the escape staircases and to provide self closing devices to all the tower block’s front doors. A further audit by the London Fire Brigade of the neighbouring Hazelwood Tower (located alongside Adair Tower) found similar breaches of health and safety legislation and an Enforcement Order was also issued for this property forcing the TMO to address the serious concerns of the Fire Brigade’s inspectors. What is shocking is that a decade ago a fatality occurred due to a fire at Hazelwood Tower and the Fire Investigation Team ordered that the grills on the fire escape staircase be covered over. This never happened and it is believed that the uncovered grills at Adair House (Hazelwood Tower’s twin block) acted like a chimney and were responsible for the accelerated spread of the fire and smoke damage.

The Grenfell Action Group predict that it won’t be long before the words of this blog come back to haunt the KCTMO management and we will do everything in our power to ensure that those in authority know how long and how appallingly our landlord has ignored their responsibility to ensure the heath and safety of their tenants and leaseholders. They can’t say that they haven’t been warned!

:mad:

Taf 14-06-2017 12:59

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We lived for many years on the 11th (top) floor of a block of flats. It was overclad after a few years. Many pointed out that the material could burn and act as a chimney taking any fire quickly up the outside, burning through the plastic frames of the new double glazing.

Osem 14-06-2017 13:01

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35903317)
Not just that but apparently residents have complained for months, years even, about the poor safety of the building. Faulty wiring and so on.

Look at this blog from November from tenants in the building: https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpres...ing-with-fire/

:mad:

Yes I've been listening to representatives of various groups all morning and it does seem as though a whole can or worms has been opened with this tragedy.

Sadly but typically, with the flames still burning, Ken Livingstone just couldn't help bringing Boris Johnson into the debate this morning before knowing the facts about what's happened and the extent of any factors which may have exacerbated the disaster. There'll be time enough for us to judge all that but it isn't now.

Paul 14-06-2017 13:42

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If you watch the video on this page you have to wonder how more have not died. :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...t-london-flats

The water being sprayed just looks hopelessly unlikely to do anything.

nashville 14-06-2017 13:48

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So very sad to see this on the news this morning, What a terrible thing to happen and how many more flats refurbished with this material, God Help them

denphone 14-06-2017 14:08

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35903322)
If you watch the video on this page you have to wonder how more have not died. :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-engl...t-london-flats

The water being sprayed just looks hopelessly unlikely to do anything.

l still fear the death toll could rise very significantly as there are still quite a lot unaccounted for.

denphone 14-06-2017 18:04

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12 people been confirmed dead now.:(

Stephen 14-06-2017 21:07

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35903318)
We lived for many years on the 11th (top) floor of a block of flats. It was overclad after a few years. Many pointed out that the material could burn and act as a chimney taking any fire quickly up the outside, burning through the plastic frames of the new double glazing.

As sad as the whole incident is, I watch it all unfold till after 4am and from the first footage seen I could tell that the cladding had caused the fire to spread so fast.

Those blocks by their nature should keep the fire contained in the flat. However that didn't happen and much like that building fire in Dubai recently it looked just like that with the fire reaching up and round the building in mere minutes.

So whether it was the cladding or the material underneath it will of course be investigated.

I also heard a resident and witness state that it was his neighbour on the 4th floor, whose fridge caught fire.

I fear the death toll will rise by a large number once the building is fully searched.

Hom3r 14-06-2017 22:49

You cannot even imagine the thoughts that went through parents minds as they dropped there precious children from high up, and hoping they had a slim chance of being caught.

Huge respect for those who ran to try and catch them.

I hope all survived 😦

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Having heard the policy is to stay put, this needs reviewing.

As for the way the fire spread so fast on the outside of the building, I can see people doing a lengthy prison term.

Then there are the emergency services whom ran into hell on earth, respect.

As the guy from Manchester said "Were supposed to be a divided county, like hell"

It's amazing watching the response from people supplying all the people who have lost everything with things to get them back on their feet. Especially the little girl given a teday bear which she will treasure for a long time.


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