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Kymmy 22-04-2011 16:25

PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13169518

Quote:

Millions of gamers are unable to play online as the Playstation Network remains unavailable.

Users are seeing error messages stating the network is "undergoing maintenance" or is "suspended".

In a blog post, makers Sony thanked users for their patience but warned the downtime - which has so far lasted more than 20 hours - could continue for "a day or two".
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EDIT (Matt D)

I thought I'd add some links & a summary to the first post (sorry for editing your post, Kymmy :) ).

THE GREAT PSN DATA BREACH

The PlayStation Network (PSN) has suffered an "illegal and unauthorized intrusion", which has resulted in the personal information of all PSN account holders being compromised.

Sony has shut the network down while it investigates the breach (including using an "outside, recognized security firm") and attempts to strengthen and re-build the network.

Personal information which Sony definitely believes has been obtained by an unauthorised person: Name, Address (city, state, zip), Country, Email Address, Birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID.

Personal information which Sony believes may have been obtained: Profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers.

Credit Card information: Although there is not yet any evidence that credit card information has been obtained, Sony says that it "cannot rule out the possibility" and that your card number and expiry date may have been obtained (but not the security code).

The credit card table was encrypted, however the personal data table was not.

If you used the same password on any other sites/services as you use on PSN, then you should change the password for those other sites/services as soon as possible.

If you had a credit or debit card attached to your PSN account, then you should at the very least pay close attention to it and look for any suspicious activity, just in case. If you notice any suspicious transactions, then phone your bank / card provider's fraud line at once.

If don't notice anything but you are still worried about it, then phone your bank or card provider and ask for the card to be cancelled and replaced with a new card due to potential fraud from the PSN data breach.

However, Sony is apparently going to be passing card numbers on to Financial Fraud Action (FFA), which will then pass them on to the relevant banks and card providers, so your card should hopefully be cancelled automatically if Sony believes it was at risk.

If you are worried about the increased possibility of ID theft or credit fraud, due to the personal information which has been stolen (name, address, DOB, etc.), then you can request "Protective Registration" from CIFAS (the UK's Fraud Prevention Service). This costs £12 + VAT, and means a "CIFAS warning flag marked Protective Registration will then be placed on the CIFAS National Fraud Database against your name and personal details to indicate that you have been recorded at your own request for your protection". If any credit or certain other services are then applied for in your name, the warning flag tells CIFAS member organisations to be extra vigilant and undertake extra checks to ensure that the application is genuine. The CIFAS flag lasts for one year. An FAQ is here: http://www.cifas.org.uk/pr_faqs


Official updates from the PlayStation Blog:

These are what Sony has said so far, and include various bits of info on what has happened.

26th April - Update on PlayStation Network and Qriocity

27th April - Q&A #1

28th April - Q&A #2

"1st May - Some PlayStation Network And Qriocity Services To Be Available This Week"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony
SOME PLAYSTATION NETWORK AND QRIOCITY SERVICES TO BE AVAILABLE THIS WEEK

Phased Global Rollout of Services to Begin Regionally; System Security Enhanced to Provide Greater Protection of Personal Information.

Tokyo, May 1, 2011 – Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) and Sony Network Entertainment International (SNEI, the company) announced they will shortly begin a phased restoration by region of PlayStation®Network and Qriocity™ services, beginning with gaming, music and video services to be turned on. The company also announced both a series of immediate steps to enhance security across the network and a new customer appreciation program to thank its customers for their patience and loyalty.

Following a criminal cyber-attack on the company’s data-center located in San Diego, California, U.S.A., SNEI quickly turned off the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services, engaged multiple expert information security firms over the course of several days and conducted an extensive audit of the system. Since then, the company has implemented a variety of new security measures to provide greater protection of personal information. SNEI and its third-party experts have conducted extensive tests to verify the security strength of the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. With these measures in place, SCE and SNEI plan to start a phased rollout by region of the services shortly. The initial phase of the rollout will include, but is not limited to, the following:

• Restoration of Online game-play across the PlayStation®3 (PS3) and PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) systems
• This includes titles requiring online verification and downloaded games
• Access to Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity for PS3/PSP for existing subscribers
• Access to account management and password reset
• Access to download un-expired Movie Rentals on PS3, PSP and MediaGo
• PlayStation®Home
• Friends List
• Chat Functionality

Working closely with several outside security firms, the company has implemented significant security measures to further detect unauthorized activity and provide consumers with greater protection of their personal information. The company is also creating the position of Chief Information Security Officer, directly reporting to Shinji Hasejima, Chief Information Officer of Sony Corporation, to add a new position of expertise in and accountability for customer data protection and supplement existing information security personnel. The new security measures implemented include, but are not limited to, the following:

• Added automated software monitoring and configuration management to help defend against new attacks
• Enhanced levels of data protection and encryption
• Enhanced ability to detect software intrusions within the network, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns
• Implementation of additional firewalls

The company also expedited an already planned move of the system to a new data center in a different location that has been under construction and development for several months. In addition, PS3 will have a forced system software update that will require all registered PlayStation Network users to change their account passwords before being able to sign into the service. As an added layer of security, that password can only be changed on the same PS3 in which that account was activated, or through validated email confirmation, a critical step to help further protect customer data.

The company is conducting a thorough and on-going investigation and working with law enforcement to track down and prosecute those responsible for the illegal intrusion.

“This criminal act against our network had a significant impact not only on our consumers, but our entire industry. These illegal attacks obviously highlight the widespread problem with cyber-security. We take the security of our consumers’ information very seriously and are committed to helping our consumers protect their personal data. In addition, the organization has worked around the clock to bring these services back online, and are doing so only after we had verified increased levels of security across our networks,” said Kazuo Hirai, Executive Deputy President, Sony Corporation. “Our global audience of PlayStation Network and Qriocity consumers was disrupted. We have learned lessons along the way about the valued relationship with our consumers, and to that end, we will be launching a customer appreciation program for registered consumers as a way of expressing our gratitude for their loyalty during this network downtime, as we work even harder to restore and regain their trust in us and our services.”

Complimentary Offering and “Welcome Back” Appreciation Program

While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, the company is committed to helping its customers protect their personal data and will provide a complimentary offering to assist users in enrolling in identity theft protection services and/or similar programs. The implementation will be at a local level and further details will be made available shortly in each region.

The company will also rollout the PlayStation Network and Qriocity “Welcome Back” program, to be offered worldwide, which will be tailored to specific markets to provide our consumers with a selection of service options and premium content as an expression of the company’s appreciation for their patience, support and continued loyalty.

• Each territory will be offering selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download. Specific details of this content will be announced in each region soon.
• All existing PlayStation Network customers will be provided with 30 days free membership in the PlayStation Plus premium service. Current members of PlayStation Plus will receive 30 days free service.
• Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity subscribers (in countries where the service is available) will receive 30 days free service.

Additional “Welcome Back” entertainment and service offerings will be rolled out over the coming weeks as the company returns the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services to the quality standard users have grown to enjoy and strive to exceed those exceptions.

SNEI will continue to reinforce and verify security for transactions before resuming the PlayStation®Store and other Qriocity operations, scheduled for this month.

For more information about the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services intrusion and restoration, please visit http://blog.us.playstation.com or http://blog.eu.playstation.com/

"4th May - Sony’s Response to the U.S. House of Representatives"

15th May - Phased restoration has begun.

PS3 system software version 3.61 is now available, via the PS3 directly or the PlayStation website.

This version will force you to change your PSN password, once PSN is back up.

"PlayStation Network Restoration Begins"

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlayStation.com
Sony Computer Entertainment introduces increased security measures ahead of PSN service restoration.

Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) and Sony Network Entertainment International (SNEI, the company) will today begin a phased restoration by region of PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. The phased restoration will be on a country by country basis beginning in the Americas, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and the Middle East.

The first phase of restored services for North America and Europe will include:

Sign-in for PlayStation Network and Qriocity services, including the resetting of passwords.

Restoration of online gameplay across PlayStation 3 and PSP.

Playback rental video content, if within rental period, of PlayStation Store Video Store on PS3, PSP and Media Go.

Q Music Unlimited, for current subscribers, on PS3 and PC.

Access to third party services such as VidZone and MUBI.

'Friends' category on PS3, including Friends List, Chat Functionality, Trophy Comparison, etc.

PlayStation Home.

Update: PSN is now back online in the UK. The first time you try to log in, with firmware 3.61, you will be forced to change your password. Full restoration of PSN services (e.g .PSN Store) won't be complete until the end of May.

Other links:

"MoneySavingExpert - PlayStation users' data stolen in hack: what should you do?"

Statement from the Information Commissioner's Office

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICO
27 April 2011

Response to data breach involving Sony’s PlayStation Network

An ICO spokesperson said:

The Information Commissioner’s Office takes data protection breaches extremely seriously. Any business or organisation that is processing personal information in the UK must ensure they comply with the law, including the need to keep data secure.
We have recently been informed of an incident which appears to involve Sony. We have contacted Sony and will be making further enquiries to establish the precise nature of the incident before deciding what action, if any, needs to be taken by this office.


Zing 22-04-2011 16:28

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Possibly another update coming to stop the CFW's with certain patches playing online perhaps

Ravenheart 23-04-2011 07:37

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Update from Sony this morning

“An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services, In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th.”

Source

No ETA on it being resolved.

Zing 23-04-2011 08:33

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Ha ha sounds like its that group using the name "anonymous" who has threatened to disrupt Sony as much as they can

adzii_nufc 23-04-2011 13:29

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
They should try hacking something bigger than Sony, Maybe the US government

They wont be so Anonymous anymore :)

craigj2k12 24-04-2011 21:28

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
if you look at the anonymous website, they have a big image saying "it wasnt us!"

im sure they would admit it, if it was them

Zing 24-04-2011 21:53

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
It could be Sony subterfuge trying to get public opinion onside.

At the end of the day half the scene wouldnt have been interested in hacking the system if they didnt remove the linux options. The only defense Sony has now is PSN.

I have stayed on 3.41 and a Jailbreak dongle myself but if and when 3.56 and above gets a CFW I may well update but PSN I aint bothered about anyway

dilli-theclaw 25-04-2011 18:40

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Another update.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...ta-is-safe.ars

Graham M 25-04-2011 19:33

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Grrr I just bought a new PS3 today and am transferring the data over, just hope I can disable the stuff on the old console after the transfer without any ill effects. Any ideas?

wwe 25-04-2011 19:35

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Hope they get it back on soon.

DABhand 25-04-2011 19:44

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
It's not by anonymous, it's a chinese group who are not happy that their Jailbreak/CRC encryption God has been told no by Sony lawyers :P

I also expect them to update PSN to detect firmware changes and disable any USB bootup access.

Tezcatlipoca 26-04-2011 21:15

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Time to change passwords & keep an eye on the credit card? ...

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...-and-qriocity/

Quote:

Originally Posted by PS Blog
Posted by Patrick Seybold // Sr. Director, Corporate Communications & Social Media

Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve the current outage of PlayStation Network & Qriocity services. We are currently working to send a similar message to the one below via email to all of our registered account holders regarding a compromise of personal information as a result of an illegal intrusion on our systems. These malicious actions have also had an impact on your ability to enjoy the services provided by PlayStation Network and Qriocity including online gaming and online access to music, movies, sports and TV shows. We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week.

We’re working day and night to ensure it is done as quickly as possible. We appreciate your patience and feedback.

Valued PlayStation Network/Qriocity Customer:
We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have:

Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services;
Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened; and
Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by re-building our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information.

We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable.

Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.

(snip)


Damien 26-04-2011 21:36

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
That must mean they were storing passwords in the clear, i.e no hashing, utterly useless morons. That really is amateur hour.

Stephen 26-04-2011 21:38

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
I always knew the psn was poor and it's now confirmed. Sony are totally useless.

PeteLockwood 26-04-2011 21:41

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
only psn, who cares ? if it was xbox live it would be the end of the world!!! :D

craigj2k12 27-04-2011 11:38

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
i have both an xbox and a ps3 and i think ps3 is far better

Stephen 27-04-2011 11:53

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Lets not turn the thread in to another PS3 Vs Xbox one. Thank you.

Personally the PSN is really poor compared to Live and its also been confirmed that Sony had little or no encryption/security on customer details.

Not good at all. They better get this all sorted soon and will have to prove to people that they are implementing new security measures to prevent something like this happening again.

Tezcatlipoca 27-04-2011 13:15

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Even if users' credit card numbers & security answers haven't been stolen, there is still a lot of sensitive personal information which has... Name, Address, Date of Birth, email address, etc. ...

I hope no one used the same password for PSN on any other sites or services...


If anyone has their credit card info on PSN, I think you should cancel the card, just in case.

If anyone is really worried about potential fraud or ID theft due to the breach, then you can register (for a small fee) with CIFAS for extra protection:

http://www.cifas.org.uk/pr_for_individuals

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIFAS
If you have been the victim of a mugging or burglary and personal identification documents have been stolen, there is a risk that they could be used fraudulently by the thief to obtain credit or other products and services in your name. For an annual administration fee of £12 + VAT CIFAS offers a service to protect your name and personal details from being misused in this way.

When you request 'Protective Registration', a CIFAS warning flag marked Protective Registration will then be placed on the CIFAS National Fraud Database against your name and personal details to indicate that you have been recorded at your own request for your protection.

CIFAS Member organisations dealing with requests for credit or other services from someone who has taken out CIFAS Protective Registration will be alerted to the need for caution. CIFAS Members, when undertaking their routine checks against your personal name and details will see “CIFAS – DO NOT REJECT – VALIDATION REQUIRED”. As a result of this, CIFAS Members will undertake additional checks to ascertain that the applicant is genuine and not a fraudster trying to use your details to commit identity theft. .

If you believe that the identity of a deceased person could be used by a fraudster to obtain credit or other products and services, a CIFAS Protective Registration may be placed by a relative or executor against the deceased person’s name and personal details.

Once your application for Protective Registration has been processed, the entry will be placed on the database and you will receive confirmation. The data will remain on the database for at least a year from the date of the most recent fraudulent activity, but you can request the removal or extension of the Protective Registration by writing to the address below.

To make a CIFAS Protective Registration, click here to download the form. The form must be opened with Adobe Reader, which is free software that lets you view and print Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF) files. Please click the link to download the latest version of Adobe Reader. Once the form is complete, return it to the following address:

CIFAS Protective Registration
Capital House
e-state
Bankhead Crossway South
Edinburgh
EH11 4EP

Alternatively you can telephone on 0330 100 0180 (Mon-Fri 8am-8pm, 10am-1pm Sat). Please only use this telephone number for Protective Registration matters; for any other CIFAS queries, please click here.

Click here for answers to the most frequently asked questions about Protective Registration.


I can't actually remember which card I used on PSN. If it was my debit card, then I'm fine as it's long since changed & the one on PSN would be expired. I don't think I used a credit card, but I'm not 100% sure now...

craigj2k12 27-04-2011 13:36

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
as has been said, they need to sort out security, how could they not have any form of protection on the data? surely thats a data protection issue??

and while they are patching their systems up, they can sort out something with the CFW's, I personally dont mind people loading whatever software they want, afterall, your not forced to use windows, you can install any OS you want on your computer, but when its used to start hacking games, that does my nut in. Theres no point trying to get ranked highly in the world on call of duty because the top million players have all hacked, and there are people who have hacked to max their scores out, then others who have boosted them slightly, as made it less obvious that its a hacked score.

so all in all, sony need to boost security on all fronts

Tezcatlipoca 27-04-2011 14:49

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35223427)
as has been said, they need to sort out security, how could they not have any form of protection on the data? surely thats a data protection issue??


I emailed the Information Commissioner's Office last night, via the Data Protection Complaints page.

Just a query, rather than a full official complaint using the DPA complaint form.

casework@ico.gsi.gov.uk

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LOLZ...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/7.gif

http://dribbble.com/system/users/227...store-top5.jpg

Hom3r 27-04-2011 18:14

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
I heard on CBS News (on Sky News 1am) that some 75,000,000 credit details may have been stolen.

If this true then Sony could face a lot of agro from those people who have money taken out of their credit card.

I would call my credit card company and get them to send a replacement card ASAP.

Thank god I'm on XBL.

Tezcatlipoca 27-04-2011 19:27

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Well, it's 77 million total PSN accounts. Not all of them will have credit/debit card info associated with them.

I checked through my emails to find out which card I used for PSN... It was an old & now expired card, last used to purchase stuff from PSN in late 2008, so I'm safe regarding that, at least.

Still worrying re. all the other data though... name, address, DOB, email, etc., & potentially also security answers (e.g. mother's maiden name).

Stephen 27-04-2011 19:35

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I know people are fearing the worst but I don't think they will do anything at all with the data. I think they were just out to totally screw Sony and show it is easy it would be.

Tezcatlipoca 27-04-2011 19:44

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
... Or they may sell the data on to credit/ID thieves...

LSainsbury 27-04-2011 20:58

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35223297)
Lets not turn the thread in to another PS3 Vs Xbox one. Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35223297)
Personally the PSN is really poor compared to Live.....

Nice double-standards there! :angel:

---------- Post added at 20:58 ---------- Previous post was at 20:56 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35223723)

Thank god I'm on XBL.


...until that gets hacked....

DABhand 27-04-2011 21:11

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Heres the culprit

http://www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co...ralsHacker.jpg

Stephen 27-04-2011 21:24

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35223896)
Nice double-standards there! .

I was referring to the post above mine.

I was talking about the actual on line services of the console in my post, the post before mine just claimed one console was rubbish compared to the other.

Tod 27-04-2011 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35223940)
I was referring to the post above mine.

I was talking about the actual on line services of the console in my post, the post before mine just claimed one console was rubbish compared to the other.

OK so how is this different to (in the same thread BEFORE craig):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35222843)
Sony are totally useless.

I think you will find that is double standards.

Personally Live is poor compared to PSN because I don't have it :D

Hom3r 27-04-2011 22:10

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Well with regards to the security question I would never pick a dangerous one, I have in the past selected other less senative ones, fav drink, first pet etc.

wwe 27-04-2011 22:38

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have the hackers got everyone details who goes on the psn?

Tod 28-04-2011 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35224058)
have the hackers got everyone details who goes on the psn?

Nobody seems to know for definite. Could be some, could be all, which is why it is best to assume they have your details and take appropriate precautions.

Tezcatlipoca 28-04-2011 03:37

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MoneySavingExpert - PlayStation users' data stolen in hack: what should you do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSE
(snip)

Should I be worried about my card details?

Financial Fraud Action (FFA), which represents card firms, says Sony is due to pass it the details of all card numbers that may have been stolen, which FFA will then distribute to banks and building societies.

FFA says this is standard procedure after a hack.

It therefore says anyone who has entered their card number on the PlayStation network does not need to contact their provider as firms will cancel many cards automatically.

FFA adds in a statement: "Customers should keep a close eye on their account for any unusual activity – if they spot any they should contact their bank or card company.

"If anyone is the innocent victim of fraud they will get their money back from their bank or card company."

Sony is not certain that credit card details have been stolen but states on its website: "While there is no evidence credit card data was taken we cannot rule out the possibility.

"To be on the safe side we are advising your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may also have been obtained."

What about my passwords?

Names, addresses, PlayStation log-in details and email addresses are also thought to have been taken by the hackers.

FFA is therefore also advising users to change passwords for all their accounts, be it a bank or email account, if it is the same as they use on PlayStation.

And what about ID fraud?

Playstation users also need to be alert to the threat of identity theft, according to credit reference agency Equifax.

It says fraudsters only need three items of personal information to be able to steal an individual's identity.

If you're worried, you can check your credit report to identify whether fraudsters try to open accounts in your name (see the Credit Rating guide to check for free).

(snip)



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New Q&A from Sony:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...city-services/

Pog66 28-04-2011 13:12

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The legal repercussions have started - Link

DABhand 28-04-2011 16:08

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
I see the American's are first to sue anything not tied down again lol

But then again even if Sony had brilliant network security and it was a hard job for any hacker to gain access, whether its .htaccess or whatever, the American's would sue anyways :P

Hell they would sue if there was a pin point stain on a case of a PS3. "I am suing Sony for the sum of $100,000 because the stain distressed my son and the whole family".

Tezcatlipoca 28-04-2011 16:18

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Statement from the Information Commissioner's Office

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICO
27 April 2011

Response to data breach involving Sony’s PlayStation Network

An ICO spokesperson said:

The Information Commissioner’s Office takes data protection breaches extremely seriously. Any business or organisation that is processing personal information in the UK must ensure they comply with the law, including the need to keep data secure.
We have recently been informed of an incident which appears to involve Sony. We have contacted Sony and will be making further enquiries to establish the precise nature of the incident before deciding what action, if any, needs to be taken by this office.


Chrysalis 29-04-2011 14:40

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I learned a while back if you know someone has the capability to either DDOS you to death or knows what he is doing in regards to security compromise then dont mess them about, just ignore them as you dont want their focus. Nothing is 100% secure, its impossible. The best in the world if focused will get in to anything.

Stuart 29-04-2011 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35225184)
I learned a while back if you know someone has the capability to either DDOS you to death or knows what he is doing in regards to security compromise then dont mess them about, just ignore them as you dont want their focus. Nothing is 100% secure, its impossible. The best in the world if focused will get in to anything.

With due respect, your situation is a little different to Sony's. The sites you run probably have little interest for hackers. When they hack Sony, not only do they get the prestige (amongst the hacker networks) of hacking a major corporation, but there is also the draw that they can potentially access tens of millions of credit card details.

In short, if you ignore a hacker, he or she will probably go away. If Sony does, word will get round and it'll actually attract more hackers.

Tezcatlipoca 29-04-2011 15:38

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Another update...

28th April - Q&A #2

Ravenheart 29-04-2011 15:46

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Claims now circulating on a number of sites that the database of credit card details is up for sale :(

Source

& Here

Chrysalis 29-04-2011 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35225218)
With due respect, your situation is a little different to Sony's. The sites you run probably have little interest for hackers. When they hack Sony, not only do they get the prestige (amongst the hacker networks) of hacking a major corporation, but there is also the draw that they can potentially access tens of millions of credit card details.

In short, if you ignore a hacker, he or she will probably go away. If Sony does, word will get round and it'll actually attract more hackers.

I have had a lot of attention in the past, a network I ran was subject to over 30gigabit DDOS that lasted for weeks and got press attention, the guy eventually went on the run from the FBI as well as I wasnt the only victim. He is now in jail.

Anyone big or small can be a victim.

I have also been subject to other attacks although much weaker and managed to persuade those attackers to stop.

It was the co-operation of above.net and a couple of other upstream providers who were willing to filter out the traffic based on data I passed on that allowed me and my colleagues to keep services online during the large attack. They all did this at no cost surprisingly so was very nice of them, as the amount of traffic filtered must have ran into 100's of terabytes. Although we could have kept services online without filtering the costs wouldnt have been viable. Someone on our behalf one of our users retalliated as well against the dns servers controlling his botnets as he had a weakpoint, this also gave us about 2 days reprieve whilst he rerouted his dns. Apparently it was the first time someone had managed to kill his botnet and the attacks were short after he recovered and moved onto another target, but by then it was too late for him and we knew his address.

The same rules applies to anyone or company really and that is dont think you invincable in the online world and be careful of who you upset.

as an added note the sites were not web sites and were direct competition to the attacker.

wwe 29-04-2011 19:25

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any news when we likley to be back on?

broadbandking 30-04-2011 00:25

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Looking from the updates some parts will be running from next week Wednesday, great another weekend with out a bit of online action after a long day of resting in the garden.

Ravenheart 01-05-2011 09:24

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Announcement from the Sony press conference this morning

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/...ble-this-week/

It details some of the changes to their security systems and also announces their "Welcome Back" Program

Quote:

• Each territory will be offering selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download. Specific details of this content will be announced in each region soon.
• All existing PlayStation Network customers will be provided with 30 days free membership in the PlayStation Plus premium service. Current members of PlayStation Plus will receive 30 days free service.
• Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity subscribers (in countries where the service is available) will receive 30 days free service.

Additional “Welcome Back” entertainment and service offerings will be rolled out over the coming weeks as the company returns the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services to the quality standard users have grown to enjoy and strive to exceed those exceptions.

Tod 01-05-2011 11:06

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I think that is a pretty good offer of free services for the downtime. The 30 days PSN and Qriocity for those subscribed was pretty much a must do, but to give all users free PSN + and some free content is a pretty good sweetner.

Fitze73 01-05-2011 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35225456)
great another weekend with out a bit of online action after a long day of resting in the garden.

luckily for me and some of the rest of you guys we have both ps3's and 360's

Tezcatlipoca 01-05-2011 14:44

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So... what's the betting that the free content is just a theme? ;)

Not remotely bothered about the free month of PlayStation Plus, as I think its "benefits" are only really of any use if you continue to subscribe?

Still, it's good that they're offering something, and it's good to have another more comprehensive update on what's going on.

wwe 01-05-2011 16:32

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whats on the play station plus anyway?

Tezcatlipoca 01-05-2011 16:35

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http://uk.playstation.com/playstationplus/

wwe 01-05-2011 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35226584)

thanks

Chrysalis 01-05-2011 17:45

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who thinks it will get breached again?

sniper007 01-05-2011 17:57

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Does anyone know how I can find out if I ever entered my credit card details into the sony network? I can't remember if I ever did.

Graham M 01-05-2011 18:09

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Just go into Billing Details when it comes back online :confused:

Tezcatlipoca 01-05-2011 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35226614)
who thinks it will get breached again?

Hopefully not...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony's press release
(snip)

...Since then, the company has implemented a variety of new security measures to provide greater protection of personal information. SNEI and its third-party experts have conducted extensive tests to verify the security strength of the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services...

(snip)

Working closely with several outside security firms, the company has implemented significant security measures to further detect unauthorized activity and provide consumers with greater protection of their personal information. The company is also creating the position of Chief Information Security Officer, directly reporting to Shinji Hasejima, Chief Information Officer of Sony Corporation, to add a new position of expertise in and accountability for customer data protection and supplement existing information security personnel. The new security measures implemented include, but are not limited to, the following:

• Added automated software monitoring and configuration management to help defend against new attacks
• Enhanced levels of data protection and encryption
• Enhanced ability to detect software intrusions within the network, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns
• Implementation of additional firewalls

The company also expedited an already planned move of the system to a new data center in a different location that has been under construction and development for several months.

(snip)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35226619)
Does anyone know how I can find out if I ever entered my credit card details into the sony network? I can't remember if I ever did.

If you never actually purchased anything, then you'll just have to wait & check as Graham said.

However, credit card info should hopefully be OK. It was in the "probably not compromised but we'd better warn people anyway" category, unlike your name, address, DOB etc. (which was all in the "oops, that's all been taken" category). Sony said all Credit Card info was encrypted (& I think it may have been on a separate server), which from what I have read is a requirement of international payment card industry security standards.

And according to MSE:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/new...stolen-in-hack

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoneySavingExpert.com
Should I be worried about my card details?

Financial Fraud Action (FFA), which represents card firms, says Sony is due to pass it the details of all card numbers that may have been stolen, which FFA will then distribute to banks and building societies.

FFA says this is standard procedure after a hack.

It therefore says anyone who has entered their card number on the PlayStation network does not need to contact their provider as firms will cancel many cards automatically.

FFA adds in a statement: "Customers should keep a close eye on their account for any unusual activity – if they spot any they should contact their bank or card company.

"If anyone is the innocent victim of fraud they will get their money back from their bank or card company."

Sony is not certain that credit card details have been stolen but states on its website: "While there is no evidence credit card data was taken we cannot rule out the possibility.

"To be on the safe side we are advising your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may also have been obtained."


sniper007 01-05-2011 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35226626)
Just go into Billing Details when it comes back online :confused:

I formatted my PS3 when I got a new HDD and I don't know even what my login and password were/are. Can I reset that? I don't really understand how it works. Signed up once ages ago and never used it.

wwe 01-05-2011 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35226772)
I formatted my PS3 when I got a new HDD and I don't know even what my login and password were/are. Can I reset that? I don't really understand how it works. Signed up once ages ago and never used it.

yer you can reset it. you just had to enter some of your details and it will reset it for you

sniper007 02-05-2011 10:02

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On the Playstation I mean? Or do I go online to a website to reset it? Will it recognize me if I have formatted and used a different HDD and/or console? My console was repaired as well before but I may have been given new internals/refurb since I signed up.

Tod 02-05-2011 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35227088)
On the Playstation I mean? Or do I go online to a website to reset it? Will it recognize me if I have formatted and used a different HDD and/or console? My console was repaired as well before but I may have been given new internals/refurb since I signed up.

Sony mentioned about being able to change the password using confirmation from your registered email address as well. I am sure they will email you in the week, but once PSN is restored your PS3 will update it's firmware and tell you what to do.

SnoopZ 02-05-2011 16:36

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Sony Online Entertainment servers have now been shut down due to an unnamed intrusion!

http://www.neowin.net/news/sony-onli...amed-intrusion

wwe 02-05-2011 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sniper007 (Post 35227088)
On the Playstation I mean? Or do I go online to a website to reset it? Will it recognize me if I have formatted and used a different HDD and/or console? My console was repaired as well before but I may have been given new internals/refurb since I signed up.

yer it be fine. you can do it though your ps3 or on the playstation website

Tezcatlipoca 03-05-2011 01:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35227422)
Sony Online Entertainment servers have now been shut down due to an unnamed intrusion!

http://www.neowin.net/news/sony-onli...amed-intrusion

Oops...

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/116/1165583p1.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by IGN
Sony Online Entertainment confirmed today it is investigating an security breach into its network systems and that hackers may have stolen SOE customer information.

A spokesperson said this was not a second attack, and the temporary take down of SOE services was related to the ongoing investigation of the external intrusion that caused PlayStation Network and Qriocity services to shut down last month.

"This information, which was discovered by engineers and security consultants reviewing SOE systems, showed that personal information from approximately 24.6 million SOE accounts may have been stolen, as well as certain information from an outdated database from 2007," SOE said in a statement.

"The information from the outdated database that may have been stolen includes approximately 12,700 non-U.S. credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes), and about 10,700 direct debit records of certain customers in Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain."

Quote:

The personal information of the approximately 24.6 million SOE accounts that was illegally obtained, to the extent it had been provided to SOE, is as follows:

- name

- address

- e-mail address

- birthdate

- gender

- phone number

- login name

- hashed password.

In addition to the information above, the 10,700 direct debit records from accounts in Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Spain, include:

- bank account number

- customer name

- account name

- customer address.
SOE says it will give customers 30 days of additional time on their subscriptions "in addition to compensating them one day for each day the system is down." The company is also outlining a "make good" plan for its multiplatform MMOs - DC Universe Online and Free Realms - with more details coming this week.

SOE posted a notice on its website saying, "There is no evidence that our main credit card database was compromised. It is in a completely separate and secured environment."

Copyright 1996-2011, IGN Entertainment, Inc.


Chrysalis 03-05-2011 02:50

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storing encrypted is standard practice now days for anything billing related so is poor from sony in that regard.

Kymmy 03-05-2011 09:03

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13256817

Quote:

Sony has warned that almost 25 million extra gaming users may have had their personal details taken in a hacker attack.

pabscars 03-05-2011 11:28

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I use my work email addy for one of my PSN accounts and since receiving the email from Sony regarding the PSN breach, I've had dozens of spam emails from eastern european ladies looking for relationships and seeking contact via Skype.

Obviously I deleted them all and added the sender to the blocked list but a coincidence I think not.

Fitze73 03-05-2011 11:36

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35227873)
I've had dozens of spam emails from eastern european ladies looking for relationships and seeking contact via Skype.

at least it wasnt for men eh paul lol :)

pabscars 03-05-2011 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitze73 (Post 35227874)
at least it wasnt for men eh paul lol :)

I know,,,,, you would have been dead jealous hay Fitze lol ;)

:D

Couldnt resist :p:

Tod 03-05-2011 13:55

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As part of my yahoo mail package I have a unique email address for my PSN, and I have received no spam at all on it.

craigj2k12 04-05-2011 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35227951)
As part of my yahoo mail package I have a unique email address for my PSN, and I have received no spam at all on it.

i too havent received any more spam than usual

pabscars 04-05-2011 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35228638)
i too havent received any more spam than usual

May of been a fluke then, just me being suspicious.

Fingers crossed it's all back up and running this evening, I'm missing GT5

Tod 04-05-2011 13:14

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I just want to get my PSN+ stuff, it's the turn of the month now! :D

Although I hope it is not dumbed down as it is free to all this month!

pabscars 04-05-2011 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35228647)
I just want to get my PSN+ stuff, it's the turn of the month now! :D

Although I hope it is not dumbed down as it is free to all this month!

One suspect's their servers may be running a tad warm this hevening :D,

I wonder if sony have taken advantage of this to upgrade their servers capacity because they normally grind to a halt when map pack's get released.

Tezcatlipoca 04-05-2011 20:40

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"Sony’s Response to the U.S. House of Representatives"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony
Today, the Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce held a hearing in Washington, DC on “The Threat of Data Theft to American Consumers.”

Kazuo Hirai, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Sony Computer Entertainment America, submitted written answers to questions posed by the subcommittee about the large-scale, criminal cyber-attack we have experienced. We wanted to share those answers with you (click here).

In summary, we told the subcommittee that in dealing with this cyber attack we followed four key principles:

1. Act with care and caution.
2. Provide relevant information to the public when it has been verified.
3. Take responsibility for our obligations to our customers.
4. Work with law enforcement authorities.

We also informed the subcommittee of the following:

* Sony has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack.

* We discovered that the intruders had planted a file on one of our Sony Online Entertainment servers named “Anonymous” with the words “We are Legion.”

* By April 25, forensic teams were able to confirm the scope of the personal data they believed had been taken, and could not rule out whether credit card information had been accessed. On April 26, we notified customers of those facts.

* As of today, the major credit card companies have not reported any fraudulent transactions that they believe are the direct result of this cyber attack.

* Protecting individuals’ personal data is the highestpriority and ensuring that the Internet can be made secure for commerce is also essential. Worldwide, countries and businesses will have to come together to ensure the safety of commerce over the Internet and find ways to combat cybercrime and cyber terrorism.

* We are taking a number of steps to prevent future breaches, including enhanced levels of data protection and encryption; enhanced ability to detect software intrusions, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns; additional firewalls; establishment of a new data center in an undisclosed location with increased security; and the naming of a new Chief Information Security Officer.

(snip)


craigj2k12 05-05-2011 00:04

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Quote:

* We are taking a number of steps to prevent future breaches, including enhanced levels of data protection and encryption; enhanced ability to detect software intrusions, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns; additional firewalls; establishment of a new data center in an undisclosed location with increased security; and the naming of a new Chief Information Security Officer.
so basically they have sacked the guy in charge of security, set up new servers, and added encryption

---------- Post added 05-05-2011 at 00:04 ---------- Previous post was 04-05-2011 at 23:34 ----------

does anyone know when PSN will be back online?

pabscars 05-05-2011 08:06

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Going off word of mouth from a mate, he was expecting the PSN network to be back up and running at 1am this morning, but because Sony had found that another 20 million users details had been stolen it may be delayed further, how true this is I cant say.

Just to add

I had a phone call from a guy claiming to be from Northern Rock last night saying they wish to discuss something with me but before they could proceed they need to ask some security questions, so I said unless your willing to disclose what its about you aint getting jack out of me.

This went back and too a few times so I said to the guy listen, given the fact that PSN has just been hacked, I'm not comfortable handing over personal info over the phone, the chap was very understanding, gave me his name and number and asked me to ring back in the morning.

It's probably genuine as I have dealing's with NR but I'm not taking any chances.

Tod 05-05-2011 10:03

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Sony have been very quiet again, looks like this week is off then!

Also I am confused at how people are still posting on the official PS forums when you can't log into PSN? Hows that work then?

DABhand 05-05-2011 12:31

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Probably seperate MYSQL database for the forums.

Chrysalis 05-05-2011 12:32

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
also likely different physical servers.

Tod 05-05-2011 14:47

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Yeah, but then I would be able to log in - and I can't?

Ravenheart 05-05-2011 17:29

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Sony knew PSN had security flaws before it was hacked!

Quote:

'We have to admit we were not fully sufficient' exec admits

Sony was internally aware of security shortcomings before its PlayStation Network was hacked, the company has said.

Chrysalis 05-05-2011 18:51

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what he said about security updates is very true, I know this first hand when I have had people telling me to prioritise uptime over patching updates. However alot of updates would only need a few seconds downtime most of the time and in addition a company the size of sony I would expect to have redundant setup's so they can take servers offline without affecting uptime.

pabscars 05-05-2011 19:14

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
So when's it coming back online, I'm getting the shakes man :D:D

Just kidding

So has anyone got any firm news, a mate just text me saying it could be on by 10pm tonight or tomorrow, it would appear the goalpost's are continually moving.

The same mate also said PSN is ready to go and that Japan will be first, again how true this is I dunno.

craigj2k12 06-05-2011 00:33

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
all your trophies will be gone!!!! all account details were on a memory stick, buried in the sea, with bin laden! all your progress will be lost and you will be forced to create a new account

yeah yeah i know its BS, just like every other rumour. if sony had given a time, either they would make it official, or someone, a news site or something would post it

Maggy 06-05-2011 12:48

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13288532

Quote:

Sony has blamed the online vigilante group Anonymous for indirectly allowing the security breach that allowed a hacker to gain access to the personal data of more than 100m online gamers.
In a letter to the US Congress, Sony said the breach came at the same time as it was fighting a denial-of-service attack from Anonymous.

DABhand 06-05-2011 16:52

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
It is not Anonymous, it is a Chinese hacking group, who announced today they will go for a 3rd attack because of the way Sony has conducted themselves during the previous 2 attacks.

pabscars 06-05-2011 17:39

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35230315)
It is not Anonymous, it is a Chinese hacking group, who announced today they will go for a 3rd attack because of the way Sony has conducted themselves during the previous 2 attacks.

Show us the link then DAB, you should be a dabhand at this by now :p:

Ravenheart 06-05-2011 17:55

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Quite a few places reporting it now

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...k-this-weekend

pabscars 06-05-2011 18:28

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
I'm getting hacked off with all this now :tiptoe: , thanks for the linky Ravenheart :D

Ravenheart 06-05-2011 18:45

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
More information on the "Welcome Back" scheme and Sony are working on an EU version of the years free identity theft insurance offered to US users.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/...tion-offering/

Chrysalis 06-05-2011 19:03

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
they stuck in a hard place.

the nightmare scenario is they bring services back up (I expect they ready to do this now) but then get compromised again making them look incompetant. At some point they will have to bring services back online, they cant hide behind been offline forever.

Tezcatlipoca 06-05-2011 20:56

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35230174)

LOL. It's hardly the fault of "Anonymous" that Sony was allegedly using...
Quote:

outdated versions of the Apache Web server software, which "was unpatched and had no firewall installed."
Security Expert: Sony Knew Its Software Was Obsolete Months Before PSN Breach

Chrysalis 06-05-2011 21:29

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I have seen corporate sites using versions of apache years old. given that updating apache will typically give a downtime of about 1 second up to maybe 5 seconds or so if busy for the restart I think its not excusable.

DABhand 07-05-2011 01:45

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Even then they could have had a sister server running an updated apache while the main server was updated and restarted.

Chrysalis 07-05-2011 02:16

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
A company the size of sony I would expect to have multiple apache sitting behind a proxy (proxy also acts as security filter and cache) and as you said be able to take down apache slaves without downtime. But what I would expect and what they do can obviously be very different things.

Ravenheart 07-05-2011 08:04

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Latest update


Quote:

As you may know, we’ve begun the process of restoring the service through internal testing of the new system. We’re still working to confirm the security of the network infrastructure, as well as working with a variety of outside entities to confirm with them of the security of the system.

Ravenheart 07-05-2011 20:46

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Another day another data breach?

Quote:

May 7 (Reuters) - Sony said on Saturday it had removed off the Internet the personal details of 2,500 people that had been stolen by hackers and posted on a website.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7G701L20110507

Then an update with more info Here

Quote:

* No fixed date for PlayStation Network restart

craigj2k12 08-05-2011 15:08

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
hurry up sony :(

im glad iv got an xbox to play on in the meantime

wwe 09-05-2011 22:17

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
any news when we going to be back on?

Fitze73 09-05-2011 22:29

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
they reckon by the 31st may , but dont hold your breath ive passed out several times already :)

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.ph...-further-weeks

thank god ive got black ops on the 360 as well

Tezcatlipoca 10-05-2011 20:03

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So, it seems the allegations that was running an outdated Apache server and no firewall are actually a load of rubbish.

http://bitmob.com/articles/detective...ers-up-to-date

Chrysalis 10-05-2011 21:47

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every site linked to from this thread is incredibly slow to load or doesnt load without disabling adblockers.

bitmob.com incidently fails to load anything at all.

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms home.gateway2 [192.168.1.1]
2 10 ms 7 ms 7 ms cpc14-leic14-2-0-gw.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com [8
.30.112.1]
3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms leic-core-1a-ae3-2231.network.virginmedia.net [8
.3.33.45]
4 8 ms 11 ms 11 ms leed-bb-1a-as8-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
.172.17]
5 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms popl-bb-1b-as1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
185.238]
6 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms popl-tmr-2-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
.159.6]
7 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms tele-ic-2-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
84.6]
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wwe 11-05-2011 20:13

re: PSN back online after data breach. You must change passwords [see post 1]
 
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Originally Posted by Fitze73 (Post 35232862)
they reckon by the 31st may , but dont hold your breath ive passed out several times already :)

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.ph...-further-weeks

thank god ive got black ops on the 360 as well

really 31 of may. why is it taking so long?


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