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Osem 24-04-2012 10:39

Terror arrests in Luton
 
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Five men have been arrested in Luton on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, Scotland Yard said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17825583

Wonder if this will turn out to be something significant, possibly connected with the Olympics even.... :erm:

martyh 24-04-2012 11:02

Re: Terror arrests in Luton
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35418438)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17825583

Wonder if this will turn out to be something significant, possibly connected with the Olympics even.... :erm:


Hope not ,of course if i had my cynicle head on i would think it could all turn out to be the regular bout of arrests based on flimsy evidence designed to make us think we have a terrorist problem to justify all the government snooping

Hugh 24-04-2012 11:11

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Beggared if they do, beggared if they don't....

Russ 24-04-2012 11:16

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35418449)
Hope not ,of course if i had my cynicle head on i would think it could all turn out to be the regular bout of arrests based on flimsy evidence designed to make us think we have a terrorist problem to justify all the government snooping

I'd rather them not take a chance.

Osem 24-04-2012 11:38

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Given the amount of serious flak the authorities get when they're deemed to have made arrests etc. and got it wrong, I doubt they'd be mounting such raids on a whim or for political reasons.

Julian 24-04-2012 11:43

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Of course if any of those arrested could be conveniently linked to the " I dont want to be deported " brigade things could get interesting. ;)

Gary L 25-04-2012 09:33

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35418438)
Wonder if this will turn out to be something significant, possibly connected with the Olympics even.... :erm:

Almost certainly. it's a once in a lifetime, not to be missed thing.

Hugh 25-04-2012 11:59

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35418893)
Almost certainly. it's a once in a lifetime, not to be missed thing.

That happens every four years.....;)

danielf 25-04-2012 12:04

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35418945)
That happens every four years.....;)

Two years actually...

Gary L 25-04-2012 13:18

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35418945)
That happens every four years.....;)

Terrorists only like the USA and the UK. and we're holding the Olympics this year for them :)

Osem 25-04-2012 14:07

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35418978)
Terrorists only like the USA and the UK. and we're holding the Olympics this year for them :)

Yeah I don't suppose all those murdered in terrorist acts in France, Spain, Norway, Turkey, India, Algeria, Libya, Iraq, Arghanistan, Pakistan, Russia, Israel etc. etc. will have noticed that though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rist_incidents

papa smurf 25-04-2012 16:26

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35418945)
That happens every four years.....;)

in London?

Taf 25-04-2012 17:20

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Well, we reap what we sow. The country (and probably many others) are now home to an army of Fifth Columnists just waiting to go to work.

Let's just hope that "intelligence" finds most, or all, before they can carry out their deadly, cowardly acts against us.

Gary L 25-04-2012 19:07

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35419005)
Yeah I don't suppose all those murdered in terrorist acts in France, Spain, Norway, Turkey, India, Algeria, Libya, Iraq, Arghanistan, Pakistan, Russia, Israel etc. etc. will have noticed that though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rist_incidents

Probably not.

Hugh 25-04-2012 22:21

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35419081)
in London?

Don't remember any Al-Qaeda attacks in Atlanta, Athens, or Sydney....

Tim Deegan 26-04-2012 00:14

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There are many anti terrorist operations going on that we know nothing about. And we only find out about them when they are concluded. Remember the liquid bomb plot that was planned to bring down up to 14 passenger airliners, and the many other terrorist plots that have been foiled over recent years.

Terrorists want to make a huge impact, and do as their name suggests 'cause terror'. If they put people off coming to the olympics, then it would be a huge financial blow to the UK, and a huge goal for the terrorists. So for this reason this reason the government's and the security services backsides are really twitching in the run up to the olympics.

TheDaddy 26-04-2012 00:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35419243)
Don't remember any Al-Qaeda attacks in Atlanta, Athens, or Sydney....

I remember a terrorist attack at the Atlanta games...

Hugh 26-04-2012 06:59

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35419325)
I remember a terrorist attack at the Atlanta games...

Al-Qaeda, or some nut-job?

TheDaddy 26-04-2012 09:19

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35419363)
Al-Qaeda, or some nut-job?

Some nut job but then I don't believe Al- Qaeda is anything more than a name now so this if it turns out to be Olympic terrorist based, they would just be some more nut jobs imo.

Sirius 26-04-2012 11:08

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35419385)
Some nut job but then I don't believe Al- Qaeda is anything more than a name now so this if it turns out to be Olympic terrorist based, they would just be some more nut jobs imo.

Indeed any nut job out there can suggest he is a member of Al Qaeda just to get him self more attention from the media.

Gary L 26-04-2012 13:41

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Whether it's Al Qaeda or the Barmy Army. as long as there's any action it will ruin the games.

I'm sure there's a lot of people coming here asking if there's a possibility of a Muslim/Terrorist thing. and I'm sure the British government is asking the same thing as well as telling those asking not to worry, and that it's all under control.

then they go and remind them about the recent nationwide riots they had all under control.

Osem 27-04-2012 13:13

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Apparently there's chaos in the Tottenham Court Road area and the tube there as a result of some lone maniac who's holed up in an office. It seems he may be a disgruntled employee and there's reports that he's got gas canisters strapped to him but of course that could be just Chinese whispers and media exaggeration at work.

He'll probably turn out to be a sad idiot with no terrorist links whatsoever but it all goes to show how the police can't take any chances so have to lock things down. In a major city like London that's going to very rapidly cause widespread chaos.

The sad truth is that if the terrorists (or anyone else for that matter) want to bring London to a halt it only needs a few of them to emulate this guy and they'll do a very nice job.

Tim Deegan 27-04-2012 13:48

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35419870)
Apparently there's chaos in the Tottenham Court Road area and the tube there as a result of some lone maniac who's holed up in an office. It seems he may be a disgruntled employee and there's reports that he's got gas canisters strapped to him but of course that could be just Chinese whispers and media exaggeration at work.

He'll probably turn out to be a sad idiot with no terrorist links whatsoever but it all goes to show how the police can't take any chances so have to lock things down. In a major city like London that's going to very rapidly cause widespread chaos.

The sad truth is that if the terrorists (or anyone else for that matter) want to bring London to a halt it only needs a few of them to emulate this guy and they'll do a very nice job.

Breaking News: He is protesting about being kicked out of forums :D

Sorry I couldn't resist that one.

Osem 27-04-2012 13:52

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35419882)
Breaking News: He is protesting about being kicked out of forums :D

Sorry I couldn't resist that one.

:rofl:


Apparently there's a 300-400m area totally cordoned off so you can imagine what the effects of that will be.

I think it's overkill (especially as there's no reports of terrorists or other people involved in the neighbouring area) but of course the police would be torn to shreds if they took a chance and someone got hurt as a result so it's understandable and chaos will ensue.

TheDaddy 27-04-2012 13:53

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35419882)
Breaking News: He is protesting about being kicked out of forums :D

Sorry I couldn't resist that one.

Yes he's demanding radical reform of government, capitalism and forums...

Osem 27-04-2012 14:04

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35419888)
Yes he's demanding radical reform of government, capitalism and forums...

:rofl:

And banging on about the railways, airports and 'reputation' systems... lol..... :D




Seriously, it sounds like this guy is a very disgruntled HGV driver, a 50 year old guy who's very hacked off about the way he's been treated by a training company apparently. Let's hope he doesn't get himself shot.

Guess the police response will be scrutinised in minute detail given the upcoming Olympics.

Tim Deegan 27-04-2012 14:09

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35419887)
:rofl:


Apparently there's a 300-400m area totally cordoned off so you can imagine what the effects of that will be.

I think it's overkill (especially as there's no reports of terrorists or other people involved in the neighbouring area) but of course the police would be torn to shreds if they took a chance and someone got hurt as a result so it's understandable and chaos will ensue.

The cordon is most likely to be for a number of reasons:
  • In case the cannisters carry a highly toxic, or biological agent
  • To keep the press away
  • In case a sniper bullet goes astray

There are all sorts of nutters out there (as we know), who will use the terrorism fear to bring attention to one cause or another. You only have to look at that nutter in Scandinavia. Even these individuals can be as dangerous as groups.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35419890)

Seriously, it sounds like this guy is a very disgruntled HGV driver, a 50 year old guy who's very hacked off about the way he's been treated by a training company apparently. Let's hope he doesn't get himself shot.

He doesn't work for a large logistics company does he? ;)

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35419890)
Guess the police response will be scrutinised in minute detail given the upcoming Olympics.

Without a doubt.

Osem 27-04-2012 15:11

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It seems they've now got a good idea who he is and that he's not armed apart from the gas bottles on him. I think it's safe to say he probably isn't going to be embarking on some sort of massacre as if he'd wanted to do that he'd have done it by now and has missed his chance, but it does illustrate the point that a single individual armed with very little can bring C. London to a halt.

I'm just hearing on Sky that the company involved are alleged to have a rather dubious track record when it comes to delivering on promises made then going into liquidation then resurfacing again. If that's true and he feels he's a victim of some scam, it might explain why this guy's gone nuts.

Anyway, the budding terrorists, activists and attention seekers out there will no doubt be taking note of how easy it is to cause chaos. If their aim isn't actually carnage and martyrdom, then I dare say that'll suit them nicely.

---------- Post added at 15:11 ---------- Previous post was at 14:18 ----------

Apparently the guy has been arrested unharmed. Great for him, good practice for the police but horrendous for eveyone else...


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