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Itshim 15-03-2024 18:58

Sockets, Can a kettle break them ?
 
First let my say , socket has been replaced. And kettle binned. One of the double sockets in my kitchen a single socket died the other worked moved kettle to that one 6 weeks or so later it also died. Put kettle in to the new one and the kettle failed again when I moved it i noticed the pins were hot . Could this been the reason the socket died ?

Mr K 15-03-2024 19:03

Re: Sockets can a kettle break them ?
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36172091)
First let my say , socket has been replaced. And kettle binned. One of the double sockets in my kitchen a single socket died the other worked moved kettle to that one 6 weeks or so later it also died. Put kettle in to the new one and the kettle failed again when I moved it i noticed the pins were hot . Could this been the reason the socket died ?

I think there must be something with your electrics given the amount of V6 boxes you've also been through !

Hugh 15-03-2024 19:15

Re: Sockets can a kettle break them ?
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36172091)
First let my say , socket has been replaced. And kettle binned. One of the double sockets in my kitchen a single socket died the other worked moved kettle to that one 6 weeks or so later it also died. Put kettle in to the new one and the kettle failed again when I moved it i noticed the pins were hot . Could this been the reason the socket died ?

Agreeing with Mr K - you need to get an electrician in to check your wiring/fuse box if the pins are getting hot.

Taf 15-03-2024 19:32

Re: Sockets can a kettle break them ?
 
I've seen it often with high-current devices. A touch of tarnish or muck on any contact point is resistive, That generates heat, which worsens the contact so it becomes more resistive, so it generates even more heat, so even more tarnish, etc., etc.

The worst I have seen, in several cases, was the insulation of the wires to the device, and to the socket, overheated so much that it had melted.

Contact points are where the house wiring is screwed to the socket connection, the socket pins, the screwed connection to the plug pins, the plug pins themselves, and both ends of the fuse.

It's most common with devices that are almost never unplugged. So next time you use your kettle, toaster or whatever, give the plug pins a gander. If they are not bright brass, give them a clean with something abrasive.

Hom3r 15-03-2024 20:27

Re: Sockets can a kettle break them ?
 
do you have a air fryer or mini oven that you can use?


if that gets hot it could be a problem as said above.

Itshim 16-03-2024 12:52

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36172093)
Agreeing with Mr K - you need to get an electrician in to check your wiring/fuse box if the pins are getting hot.

He did :erm: only have any problem with one double socket

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36172097)
do you have a air fryer or mini oven that you can use?


if that gets hot it could be a problem as said above.

No to both

---------- Post added at 12:52 ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 ----------

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36172094)
I've seen it often with high-current devices. A touch of tarnish or muck on any contact point is resistive, That generates heat, which worsens the contact so it becomes more resistive, so it generates even more heat, so even more tarnish, etc., etc.

The worst I have seen, in several cases, was the insulation of the wires to the device, and to the socket, overheated so much that it had melted.

Contact points are where the house wiring is screwed to the socket connection, the socket pins, the screwed connection to the plug pins, the plug pins themselves, and both ends of the fuse.

It's most common with devices that are almost never unplugged. So next time you use your kettle, toaster or whatever, give the plug pins a gander. If they are not bright brass, give them a clean with something abrasive.

Will watch out for that , have lots that are never moved. There again never had that problem in 50 years of house ownership :shocked:

Taf 16-03-2024 15:35

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36172119)
Will watch out for that , have lots that are never moved. There again never had that problem in 50 years of house ownership :shocked:

When we had a mandatory house wiring check, the live cable to the new(ish) central heating was not secured correctly. That had caused the contact and wiring to tarnish and start to generate heat. Also the neutral wire connection had broken the mains loop around all the sockets. Plumbers doing electricians' work. :(

Itshim 21-03-2024 18:45

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36172126)
When we had a mandatory house wiring check, the live cable to the new(ish) central heating was not secured correctly. That had caused the contact and wiring to tarnish and start to generate heat. Also the neutral wire connection had broken the mains loop around all the sockets. Plumbers doing electricians' work. :(

The house has been rewired 3 times that I am aware of . :angel:

Ms NTL 21-03-2024 22:27

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36172349)
The house has been rewired 3 times that I am aware of . :angel:

Post a picture of your fusebox (consumer unit)


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