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Arthurgray50@blu 13-03-2012 12:36

Universal Credit
 
I have just read articles on the sky news website www.skynews,co.uk concerning the Universal Credit, which will be announced in the Budget.

This will not help the coalition win new friends, you cannot bring out a new benefit system to try and force people back to work - there isn't any work out there.

People whinge that's why foreign workers are getting jobs, where British workers cannot, simple answer to that one - employers are offering cheap wages to keep themself in business.

To live in this country, you need a decent wage to live on, everything is going up but not wages.

How does this coalition expect people to survive, when they are making cutbacks, they are making people with disability benefit go back to work - to save money. Now they have the Universal Benefit will will hit thousands of people and again people will go onto the poverty line. This is not the 1950's when money was scarce.

This is typical of a Tory government of trying to save money, and the Lib Dems should be totally ashamed of themself for allowing this to happen.

denphone 13-03-2012 12:43

Re: Universal Credit
 
Jesus when are we going to get a non political thread for once as today it just seems to be a political bashing day.

m419 13-03-2012 12:47

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35398481)
I have just read articles on the sky news website www.skynews,co.uk concerning the Universal Credit, which will be announced in the Budget.

This will not help the coalition win new friends, you cannot bring out a new benefit system to try and force people back to work - there isn't any work out there.

People whinge that's why foreign workers are getting jobs, where British workers cannot, simple answer to that one - employers are offering cheap wages to keep themself in business.

To live in this country, you need a decent wage to live on, everything is going up but not wages.

How does this coalition expect people to survive, when they are making cutbacks, they are making people with disability benefit go back to work - to save money. Now they have the Universal Benefit will will hit thousands of people and again people will go onto the poverty line. This is not the 1950's when money was scarce.

This is typical of a Tory government of trying to save money, and the Lib Dems should be totally ashamed of themself for allowing this to happen.

But if they put the minimum wage up, private companies will just put up prices of everything to make up the losses and then the cost of living will go up meaning the new minimum wage will be just as useless as the cost of living has increased again, so that problem is always gonna be around unfortunetly.

Gary L 13-03-2012 12:47

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35398485)
Jesus when are we going to get a non political thread for once as today it just seems to be a political bashing day.

Here you go denphone :)

A non political thread.

Russ 13-03-2012 12:49

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35398481)
This will not help the coalition win new friends, you cannot bring out a new benefit system to try and force people back to work - there isn't any work out there.

Yeah there is. People just don't like the idea of not upgrading to a new iphone.

denphone 13-03-2012 12:50

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35398488)
Here you go denphone :)

A non political thread.

A blessed relief one must say old chap.:)

m419 13-03-2012 12:56

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35398481)
I have just read articles on the sky news website www.skynews,co.uk concerning the Universal Credit, which will be announced in the Budget.

This will not help the coalition win new friends, you cannot bring out a new benefit system to try and force people back to work - there isn't any work out there.

People whinge that's why foreign workers are getting jobs, where British workers cannot, simple answer to that one - employers are offering cheap wages to keep themself in business.

To live in this country, you need a decent wage to live on, everything is going up but not wages.

How does this coalition expect people to survive, when they are making cutbacks, they are making people with disability benefit go back to work - to save money. Now they have the Universal Benefit will will hit thousands of people and again people will go onto the poverty line. This is not the 1950's when money was scarce.

This is typical of a Tory government of trying to save money, and the Lib Dems should be totally ashamed of themself for allowing this to happen.

By the way Universal Credit, has been an idea which has been on the cards since the DSS was replaced by DWP, it is to make it easier as well as get people off benefits, there is just too many! and some of them unfair, Why should people on Jobseekers Allowance who are genuinely looking for work get less than someone on Income Support, it makes no sense! The cost of travelling to interviews as well as to the jobcentre to sign on as well as buying food,gas and electricity is a lot, £53 per week for under 25's is too low! Those on income support and ESA get up to something like £90 per week which is unfair for jobseekers, those on income support and ESA are likely to be claiming other benefits as well.

I think the current Jobseekers allowance system is encouraging and helpful to find work, but the pay is very low and I really don't think it is very beneficial for those living alone. I was only on it for about 3 to 4 weeks before finding another job, it was very hard!

v0id 13-03-2012 12:59

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35398481)
...everything is going up but not wages.

Minimum wage goes up every year ;)

m419 13-03-2012 13:00

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35398494)
Minimum wage goes up every year ;)

And so do electricity bills,bus fares,train fares,virgin media and all other essentials

Gary L 13-03-2012 13:02

Re: Universal Credit
 
I've never been in a position to claim benefits. my father did when I was younger. but I can see how people can't survive/afford to live with the cost of living it is today.

but then you have a lot of people on benefits who blow the money they have got on weed and stuff.

how much is the average cost a week if you're on weed anyway?

martyh 13-03-2012 13:03

Re: Universal Credit
 
Part of the reason why the old system isn't any good is because people miss out on what they are entitled to because they don't know they can claim and there is also so much confusion in the dept itself as to what can be claimed and what can't

Russ 13-03-2012 13:03

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35398493)

The cost of travelling to interviews!

This is very generously paid back.

MovedGoalPosts 13-03-2012 13:24

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35398481)
This is not the 1950's when money was scarce.

Er um, it may not be the 1950s, but money is scarce. Somehow or other we need to expect governments to balance the books just as a household must. The chickens have come home to roost and we cannot continue to live on the never never both at household and government level.

m419 13-03-2012 13:48

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35398499)
This is very generously paid back.

It is?

Not for me it wasn't, they said I wasn't on Jobseekers allowance for long enough.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35398499)
This is very generously paid back.

Also in London you get half price travel after 6 months of being on JSA. No help otherwise

Russ 13-03-2012 13:51

Re: Universal Credit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35398537)
It is?

Not for me it wasn't, they said I wasn't on Jobseekers allowance for long enough.

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Also in London you get half price travel after 6 months of being on JSA. No help otherwise

I was on Jobseeker's for 3 weeks when I had an interview 180 miles away. I drove there which cost me about £50 round trip. After the Jobcentre confirmed I attended they paid me £90 for it. I'm assuming they factored in wear and tear etc on the car but I have no idea why they paid so much. I questioned it but they were adamant it was the right amount.


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