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When people are as narrow minded as you are it's easy to keep blaming one section of society and avoiding the real issues .The only way the NHS will survive is if we actually pay for it and with a rising and aging population ,increased costs ,better technology and more advanced medicine in general the costs are only ever going to rise regardless of whether we are in Europe or not |
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The NHS is an unsustainable behemoth the way it currently set up, managed and funded.
Throwing more money at it is not the answer, you could treble/ quadruple/ quintuple it's funding and it still wouldn't be enough. It needs to be taken out of government control and run by an independent body, with government oversight. Purchasing and procurement should be centralised so the buying power of the NHS is used. We should be telling the drug manufacturers what we're going to pay for their product, if they want to sell to us, if not we go elsewhere (for the drugs where that is possible) for other drugs we should be able to get great deals in return for volume, not play postcode lotteries. A clear descriptor of what is available on the NHS, charges should be levied for certain elective procedures where people have the funds. Complete ban on foreign nationals getting free health unless it is in an emergency. There is loads that could be done, if only we had a government with the balls to it. Problem is whenever you say NHS reform everybody freaks out over it. It's some sacred cow that can't be touched no matter how dysfunctional it is. |
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I will be totally honest with members. Some remarks about the cleaning work etc etc that some people wont do, but others will.
The NHS I in crisis, as some party, wont put money into it. And stop bloody freeloaders cming here. And using it for free. I have worked in hospitals as part of cleaning contractors. And our wage was low. And yet hospitals were paying agency staff to come in and do the cleaning. I was in an AE one night, after my wife was nearly killed in a car crash. And l can tell you that l was fuming. My mother in law had to be cut out of a car, my wife was driving. As the MIL was taking straight into AE, my wife who had whiplash BUT walked int the hospital. Was told to wait in the waiting room. As l approached the reception - l had just arrived from work. There were several people with MINOR alilmets such as a cough, cuts to fingers. And another young lad who was RUNNING round the waiting room. And my wife was in agony. I approached the recetionship to ask WHY, my wasn't seen yet, as she was in the same car as my MIL. She was told to wait. Have a guesss who was seen first. It wasn't my wife. She had to wait FOUR HOURS. By then everyone else had gone. The NHS has great staff. BUT, management has to change, get rid of the freeloaders. IF you don't have a NHS number, you don't get seen, simple as that. I have been ashamed of this country, at the way it pussyfoots around people that use our Hospitals like it was aa hotel. And no l don't believe that we should all pay extra tax, or the service go private. It made me laugh when l read an article from Joker Corbyn today. He demand answers about it from Miss. May. She will tell him to shut up. And he will cower like a kid in a corner. He is NT tough enough to challenge her on anything. We need to bring in Hospital matrons, who who tell patients, if they need treatment at hospital or not. About 12 months ago. I couldn't get a GP appointment, as l was getting chest pains and tingling in my fingers. Went to West Middlesex Hospital. As the waiting room was busy and full up. They sent me back to the GP for assessment. Two days later, l collapsed at work and rushed to hospital. Luckily, it was discovered nothing seriously wrong with my heart. hospital's are NOT a placed to go if you have a minor problem. Go to the chemist and ask them. They have given me loads of advice. Sorry to go on. But it gets my goat, when people knock the NHS. We need funding each year. We need the money back from people that abuse the system. But that chance is very slim I bet if everyone on this forum checked there local newspapers, and ask how much money was wasted on this year, as hospitals cannot recoup the money that people from OVERSEAs, and that includes the Migrants already here. it will run into millions. I believe ONE HOPSITAL TRUST LAST YEAR tried to recoup £500.00 which was owed. Couldn't because, they didn't have the proper details of those patients. |
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Never heard of the term Health Tourism? : https://fullfact.org/health/health-t...-and-who-pays/ So yeah, um, Health Tourism is big issue leaving the NHS a £2bn black hole in unpaid and unrecoverable charges each year and that cost is rising. Hence why very soon, people will need to take their passport with them when they go to hospital to prove they are entitled to free healthcare and receive treatment. Passport checking is already happening but it's not full scale as of yet. |
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What about the impact of an ageing population? The obesity crisis? According to this: http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-21/f...besity-crisis/ deal with the problems and complications of diabetes costs 10% of the NHS budget alone.
Health tourism should obviously be addressed but even at £1.8 billion it's not top of the list of problems facing the NHS. According to this dealing with the effects of binge drinking costs £3.5 billion a year not including dealing with any long term effects of it either. Again it's something we could do to help the budget but it's not the cause of the problems. Not everything is the fault of immigrants/foreigners. ---------- Post added at 10:22 ---------- Previous post was at 10:19 ---------- As for needing immigrants in the NHS well we probably do to an extent: https://fullfact.org/immigration/imm...-and-nhs-staff. They make up 5% of the overall staff but they're over represented in the higher roles making up 10% of doctors. That's only EU migrants. We probably do need those 10% of Doctors.... |
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Here's a decent article from the Independent ,they ask 4 senior managers in the NHS the causes of the current crisis .As it happens not one of them say that health tourism is the cause .One of the biggest issues is that the extra money given by the government isn't reaching the front line like GP's .Unless we invest heavily in GP services to treat minor ailments then the next port of call will be the nearest A&E center .Maybe instead of focusing on a 7 day NHS as a whole going for a 7 day GP service to start with may be the way to go ---------- Post added at 10:47 ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 ---------- Quote:
To receive the type of treatment you are talking about you will go via a GP referral or from the A&E .So you should be talking about the E&A |
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