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Cobbydaler 16-03-2012 17:53

He's for the High Jump!
 
120,000 feet to be precise, after this tester at 71,500 feet.
Quote:

His Red Bull Stratos team estimates he reached 364mph (586km/h) during the descent, and was in free fall for three minutes and 43 seconds before opening his parachute. From capsule to ground, the entire jump lasted eight minutes and eight seconds.
Red Bull gives you wings eh...

Russ 16-03-2012 18:18

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
The first picture, on the left - is that the natural curvature of the Earth or just a 'fish-eye' lens? If it's the Earth then he was brown-trouserly high :eek:

Cobbydaler 16-03-2012 18:25

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
I think it might be a combination of both, 71,500 feet is 13.5 miles!

LSainsbury 16-03-2012 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35400969)
The first picture, on the left - is that the natural curvature of the Earth or just a 'fish-eye' lens? If it's the Earth then he was brown-trouserly high :eek:


Looks like a bit of both Russ - look at the boom the camera is attach too.

devilincarnate 16-03-2012 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35400969)
The first picture, on the left - is that the natural curvature of the Earth or just a 'fish-eye' lens? If it's the Earth then he was brown-trouserly high :eek:

This could give a clue?

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If you didn't know that the Earth is a sphere, there are three common observations you could use to convince yourself that it is.
The first common observation is the shape of the moon. First, the face of the full moon is circular, and that would lead you to believe that it is a sphere rather than a disc. When the moon eclipses the sun, the shape of the shadow is always circular, which clinches a spherical shape for the moon. By extrapolation, you could assume that the Earth is a sphere also.
Also notice that when the moon is being eclipsed by the Earth (a lunar eclipse), the part of the moon that is eclipsed is actually the shadow of the Earth. This shadow tells you that the Earth is a sphere just like the moon.
A third way to see that the Earth is a sphere is to look at how objects in the distance "disappear" as you get farther away. For example, a 100-foot-tall ship that is 15 miles away is not visible. That's because it is blocked by the curvature of the Earth. As it approaches, it "rises." First the tip of the mast is visible, then more and more of the ship comes into view as the ship gets closer.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/question65.htm

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There are 2 six foot men. What would the distance be between them before one could not be seen because of the curvature of the earth?

My grandson, who is stationed in Baghdad, Iraq, asked the question. This is one of the fun problems his unit was discussing. Thanks for your time.

Submitted by Shirley



Hi Shirley,
In an earlier question on the curvature of the Earth Harley to showed that the earth curves approximately 8 inches per mile. Since 6 feet is 72 inches and 98 = 72, the Earth curves approximately 6 feet in 9 miles. Thus the two men would have to be approximately 18 miles apart.

Cheers,
Penny

In April 2004 we received an message from Jerry, a retired Engineer, who pointed out an error in my solution. What follows is a slightly edited version of what Jerry sent.

It is true that Harley showed quite correctly that the earth curves approximately 8 inches in one mile. The solution presented then goes on to find out over how many miles does the earth curve 72 inches or 6 feet. Then this distance is doubled which is required (and would be easy to forget), because each man looks this distance to his horizon, where the line of sight is tangent to the earth's surface midway between them. All of this reasoning is correct so far.

However, it turns out that while the earth does curve 8 inches in one mile, it does not take 9 miles to curve 72 inches. To show this, let us return to the Pythagorean Theorem method used by Harley, but using 6 feet for the curvature. Here is a copy of Harley's diagram with the 1 in the diagram replaced by x, since in this case the distance is unknown.



Again, using the theorem of Pythagoras

a2 = 39632 + x2 = 15705369 + x2

Solving for x,

x2 = a2 - 15705369

a must be 3963 miles + 6 feet (Let's say the men are actually 6'3", so their eyes are six feet above ground.). Thus
a = 3963.001136 miles

x2 = 15705378 - 15705369 = 9
x = 3 miles

Now, remember that each man looks 3 miles to the horizon, giving their distance from each other as 6 miles.

This shows that at eye level of 6 ft. the horizon is 3 miles (at sea or on a level plain).

A rule-of-thumb for line of sight problems such as this, where the distance is small in comparison to the size of the earth is

c = (2/3) times x2, where x is distance in miles and c is curvature in feet.

For the problem at hand, we then have x2 = (3/2)c

x2 = (3/2) 6 = 9
x = 3

This is the same result that the more lengthy solution yielded.

--Jerry

Thanks Jerry,

Penny
http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/dat.../shirley3.html

Hope this helps?

Cobbydaler 11-04-2012 22:57

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And another one...
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A stuntman is preparing to leap from a helicopter at a height of 2,400ft (730m) - without using a parachute.

Gary Connery, from Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire, will attempt the stunt this week, weather permitting, wearing a specially developed wingsuit.

The 42-year-old will make the jump above Ridge Wood in Buckinghamshire and land in an area containing a stack of 18,600 cardboard boxes.
Mad I tell you, mad!
Link

Maggy 12-04-2012 08:08

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As long as I don't have to scrape him off the tarmac..

Lord Nikon 12-04-2012 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35412955)
As long as I don't have to scrape him off the tarmac..

http://www.want2learn.com/instantfood/spatula.jpg

http://www.spongepark.org/sponge.jpeg

http://www.oldelpaso.co.uk/images/Hot-TnC-salsa.jpg

Kymmy 23-05-2012 17:12

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35412927)
And another one...

Mad I tell you, mad!
Link

Well he made his wingsuit jump :clap:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-18160632

---------- Post added at 17:12 ---------- Previous post was at 17:07 ----------

Video of the jump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IRC_b4g7Sg

joglynne 23-05-2012 18:21

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
I would love to do this jump but would want a parachute that opened automatically for the final landing 'cause knowing my luck I would miss the landing site.

Kymmy 26-07-2012 11:33

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
He's just done 18Miles in preperation for the 23.6 miles needed for the record

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18994387

Cobbydaler 08-10-2012 22:23

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Jump delayed due to 'bad wind'. Well, at high altitude your stomach swells due to the low atmospheric pressure... :erm:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10...mgartner_jump/

roger skillin 09-10-2012 13:07

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Live video feed of the jump, due to start in 25 mins at the earliest
http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/

joglynne 09-10-2012 14:40

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If you can't get the live video to work try this link to the live feed on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/vkJ5Itz...de=transparent

If anyone knows what the little moving dots are in the sky can they please tell me.

---------- Post added at 14:40 ---------- Previous post was at 14:08 ----------

Earliest launch is now showing as 17:30GMT.

Taf 09-10-2012 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35483143)
If anyone knows what the little moving dots are in the sky can they please tell me.

They are at Roswell, so maybe it's little green men?

Sirius 09-10-2012 18:10

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Looks like it might be a go

http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/

Kymmy 09-10-2012 18:35

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Just about to go :D

Sirius 09-10-2012 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35483209)
Just about to go :D

He's one brave man.

Watching it in 1080p :)

Kymmy 09-10-2012 18:42

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called off :(

joglynne 09-10-2012 18:43

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All dressed up and nowhere to go. :(

Taf 09-10-2012 18:45

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What a showman.... you'll need to drink a lot of energy drinks... Red Bull perhaps... to stay awake....

Sirius 09-10-2012 18:45

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At the end of the day it's his life on the line.

There's always tomorrow.

joglynne 09-10-2012 18:48

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Sounds like he may not have a new window for takeoff until the end of the week.

Hom3r 09-10-2012 18:51

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Hopefully BBC/ITV/Sky coverage will be better, and interupt the sports news

Kymmy 14-10-2012 16:34

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As posted by SnoopZ in a duplicate thread he has launched and currently 2k5 meters up

SnoopZ 14-10-2012 16:34

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http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/

Sirius 14-10-2012 18:43

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He's close

http://www.bbc.co.uk/player/emp/2_0_55/popout/pop.stm

Kymmy 14-10-2012 18:45

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
He's been given the OK to jump.. He's 3,00 feet higher than his target of 118,000 ft

Hugh 14-10-2012 18:59

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
Now at over 127,000 feet....

Osem 14-10-2012 19:02

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:Yikes:

joglynne 14-10-2012 19:04

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Doors Open.

Russ 14-10-2012 19:09

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And he removes his helmet...to reveal The Queen.

SnoopZ 14-10-2012 19:11

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Craps pants and i am just watching!

martyh 14-10-2012 19:13

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i don't think he didn't break the record for longest freefall

Kymmy 14-10-2012 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35484934)
i don't think he didn't break the record for longest freefall

Which means that the guy who helped him retains that one.. I think that's a good thing as he has put so much into this attempt

Hom3r 14-10-2012 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35484934)
i don't think he didn't break the record for longest freefall


Missed out by about 15 seconds.

I think he deployed early because the early spin made him feel like he was gonna pass out.

Dash: CF noob 14-10-2012 19:29

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Did anyone else get buffering?

SnoopZ 14-10-2012 19:31

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Buffering was terribly for me, but looking at my TBB graph that is the reason why!

Hom3r 14-10-2012 19:39

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no buffering for me

martyh 14-10-2012 20:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35484942)
Which means that the guy who helped him retains that one.. I think that's a good thing as he has put so much into this attempt

Amazing thing to do though,i think it's brilliant that people are still prepared to do stuff like that just because they can

Dash: CF noob 14-10-2012 20:07

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35484930)
And he removes his helmet...to reveal The Queen.

I thought it was usain or Mr Virgin himself
:erm:

Taf 14-10-2012 20:10

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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/taf.par...ighestjump.gif

jempalmer 14-10-2012 20:17

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Buffering made it nearly unwatchable. Missed him actually stepping out of the capsule. What a shower! 60M connection that can't stream even in SD. I am starting to really lose my temper :mad:

Dash: CF noob 14-10-2012 20:26

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
I missed that too

Cobbydaler 14-10-2012 21:21

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
Available on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXOcYExulKk

TheDaddy 15-10-2012 03:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35484920)
Now at over 127,000 feet....

That's 24 miles... :shocked:

I see arsene wenger of all people has commented

I didn't see the baumgartner incident but I think it unfair to call it a dive as there might have been a little contact

Kymmy 15-10-2012 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35484980)
Buffering made it nearly unwatchable. Missed him actually stepping out of the capsule. What a shower! 60M connection that can't stream even in SD. I am starting to really lose my temper :mad:

I had issues at friends house on an infinity line.. In other words nothing to do with VM, but as it was a Youtube viewing record as well you may find out that the buffering was because of youtube themselves..

Quote:

Originally Posted by news.bbc.co.uk
Skydiver smashes YouTube record

Austrian skydiver Felix Baumgartner has smashed a number of records, including for views on live streaming.


roger skillin 15-10-2012 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35484980)
Buffering made it nearly unwatchable. Missed him actually stepping out of the capsule. What a shower! 60M connection that can't stream even in SD. I am starting to really lose my temper :mad:


Now that was nothing to do with Virgin, 8 million people were trying to watch the same stream, i was watching it straight through the site and didn't have many issue, must have buffered maybe twice for a few seconds, i was happy with that as i knew how many people were trying to watch it

Dash: CF noob 15-10-2012 15:37

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I watched the beginning 20-30 mins on my 3 dongle with no issues, then i watched the last part of the climb to the landing approx 20 mins on my VM 60M connection with buffering a few times especially when he jumped which i missed and a few more times during the descent on the Redbull site.

Hugh 15-10-2012 15:51

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I watched it on the Red Bull site - occasional buffering, but luckily didn't miss the jump or the descent (on 60Mb).

roger skillin 15-10-2012 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dash: CF noob (Post 35485255)
I watched the beginning 20-30 mins on my 3 dongle with no issues, then i watched the last part of the climb to the landing approx 20 mins on my VM 60M connection with buffering a few times especially when he jumped which i missed and a few more times during the descent on the Redbull site.


There were less people watching at the beginning, most people either didn't know about it to start with or like me, would not bother watching the first part as not much happens for a loooong time, wouldn't have mattered how you were connected to the internet, fact was that Youtube half collapsed under the pressure but i'm impressed as to how well they did with that amount of people watching, it was actually completely down after the jump ended.

Kymmy 15-10-2012 16:13

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The redbull site was still youtube just embedded, personally I watched the ascent on the redbull site but the jump on the bbc news channel

Hom3r 15-10-2012 18:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35485286)
The redbull site was still youtube just embedded, personally I watched the ascent on the redbull site but the jump on the bbc news channel


I did both, with no buffering on my 120Mb

martyh 15-10-2012 19:11

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What's left to do ? we've climbed Everest ,been to the moon sailed/flew around the world and now jumped from the edge of space and broke the sound barrier in free fall ,what's left to do ?

just noticed it's exactly to the day, 65yrs since chuck yeager broke the sound barrier in the x-1

Cobbydaler 15-10-2012 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35485368)
What's left to do ? we've climbed Everest ,been to the moon sailed/flew around the world and now jumped from the edge of space and broke the sound barrier in free fall ,what's left to do ?

just noticed it's exactly to the day, 65yrs since chuck yeager broke the sound barrier in the x-1

1,000 mph on land?

http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/

martyh 15-10-2012 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35485396)

That's cool but it's not far off what's already been done and doesn't have the same impact as say landing on the moon or climbing everest imo

Russ 15-10-2012 21:24

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/12/1.gif

martyh 15-10-2012 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35485443)

outstanding :D

Down the Pub 30-12-2012 17:01

space jump
 
dunno if anyone has just watched it, but bbc2 just had the documentary on Felix baumgartner's space jump. just say was a brilliant watch and anybody who didn't see it then make use of the iPlayer.

the man must have been nuts...........I'll have some of whatever he's been smoking :D

martyh 30-12-2012 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Down the Pub (Post 35518030)
dunno if anyone has just watched it, but bbc2 just had the documentary on Felix baumgartner's space jump. just say was a brilliant watch and anybody who didn't see it then make use of the iPlayer.

the man must have been nuts...........I'll have some of whatever he's been smoking :D


Just finished watching it and what stood out for me was the first jump by joe Kittinger seemed to be in comparison a "gaffer tape and string" job compared to the technology available for felix's jump.That's not to take anything away from felix's jump it was fantastic but i am glad that kittinger retained some of his record even though he trained felix up to beat it .I'm also glad they devoted time in the program for Kittingers jump

Strongly recommend to watch it on i player

Cobbydaler 30-12-2012 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35518077)
Just finished watching it and what stood out for me was the first jump by joe Kittinger seemed to be in comparison a "gaffer tape and string" job compared to the technology available for felix's jump.

Shouldn't that be Kittyinger?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35485443)


martyh 30-12-2012 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35518091)
Shouldn't that be Kittyinger?

Have some respect young man :bsmack:;)

Sirius 30-12-2012 20:37

Re: space jump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35518077)
Just finished watching it and what stood out for me was the first jump by joe Kittinger seemed to be in comparison a "gaffer tape and string" job compared to the technology available for felix's jump.That's not to take anything away from felix's jump it was fantastic but i am glad that kittinger retained some of his record even though he trained felix up to beat it .I'm also glad they devoted time in the program for Kittingers jump

Strongly recommend to watch it on i player

Watching it now :tu:

Cobbydaler 30-12-2012 22:36

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It certainly showed he has a huge ego. Respect for doing it though...

TheDaddy 31-12-2012 23:44

Re: space jump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35518077)
Just finished watching it and what stood out for me was the first jump by joe Kittinger seemed to be in comparison a "gaffer tape and string" job compared to the technology available for felix's jump.That's not to take anything away from felix's jump it was fantastic but i am glad that kittinger retained some of his record even though he trained felix up to beat it .I'm also glad they devoted time in the program for Kittingers jump

Strongly recommend to watch it on i player

Is Joe the guy that got the Marlboro's out just after landing, who was it that said smoking wasn't cool!

Cobbydaler 05-02-2013 18:42

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10 mph faster and 248 ft lower than previously thought:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21341485

Hugh 25-10-2014 15:41

Re: He's for the High Jump!
 
Baumgartner's record beaten....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29766189

Quote:

Mr Eustace successfully jumped from near the top of the stratosphere at an altitude of 135,890 feet at 09:09 local time (16:00 GMT), the World Air Sports Federation (FAI) confirmed on Friday.

The previous record was set by Mr Baumgartner two years ago, after he jumped from a height of nearly 128,000 feet.

Mr Eustace also broke the world records for vertical speed reached during freefall with a peak velocity of 1,321km/h (822 mph) and total freefall distance of 123,414 feet - lasting four minutes and 27 seconds.

Cobbydaler 26-10-2014 02:11

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Totally below (or above?) the radar. Shows how much RB's publicity machine promoted Baumgartner's jump.


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