Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Current Affairs (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   U.S President: Donald Trump (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33704412)

1andrew1 05-06-2017 20:25

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35901811)
I wonder where it will all lead.

Disappointment.

ntluser 05-06-2017 21:02

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35901815)
Disappointment.

I was thinking more that he may get impeached by his own party for failing to deal with the basic issues on which he based his campaign and for attempting to undermine the Constitution. Buy you are right, a lot of his supporters are likely to be disappointed and to some extent disadvantaged.

Mick 05-06-2017 21:07

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35901811)

He professes to defend and uphold the constitution but then takes actions that violate it.

I'm curious, what actions has he took to violate it exactly ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser
He gets rid of Obamacare but has not put anything in its place so what do poor people needing medical help do.

Last time I looked it had not been replaced yet. Do you think as it stands $1500+ increases per month are worth it ? These are costs my U.S pals are seeing and I can tell you now, they're pissed off and cannot wait for it to be gone in it's current form.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser
And what had happened to the Mexican Wall designed to keep illegal Mexican immigrants from getting into the country?

Wow, you expect a large wall, thousands of miles long to be built in a few months?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser
He seems to be pulling out of national agreements and wants to renegotiate them and wants to throw his weight around with other world leaders.

I wonder where it will all lead.

National agreements that made no sense, China is allowed to build more coal power stations and can do so for next 13 years. USA can build 0 :Where is the fairness? Anyway, as I mentioned a few days ago, we can partly blame Obama, for not getting the deal passed through the Senate which would have stopped Trump from withdrawing from it.

Let the USA worry about Trump. In a few days, we could have real set of incompetent clowns running the show right here in UK, should Dumb and Dumber and Dumbest (Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott) get in power.

Damien 05-06-2017 21:17

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901821)
Last time I looked it had not been replaced yet. Do you think as it stands $1500+ increases per month are worth it ? These are costs my U.S pals are seeing and I can tell you now, they're pissed off and cannot wait for it to be gone in it's current form.

Well the bill before the senate is largely going to see it gone. They can raise premiums for pre-existing conditions and they can set lifetime limits on how much the insurer will ever pay out per year or over the person's life. They will now also be allowed to charge older patients more. The payments made to help the poorest people get coverage will be reduced as will the taxes implemented by Obamacare.

The main thing that remains is coverage on your parents' policy until age 26.

It will be cheaper for young people and more expensive for old people in general as a result. In other words the cost will be more closely linked to how healthy you are as it was before Obamacare.

So Obamacare will largely be gone.

And of course the Congressional Budget Office estimates 23 million people will be priced out of, or denied, health insurance: https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

ntluser 05-06-2017 21:38

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901821)
I'm curious, what actions has he took to violate it exactly ?



Last time I looked it had not been replaced yet. Do you think as it stands $1500+ increases per month are worth it ? These are costs my U.S pals are seeing and I can tell you now, they're pissed off and cannot wait for it to be gone in it's current form.



Wow, you expect a large wall, thousands of miles long to be built in a few months?



National agreements that made no sense, China is allowed to build more coal power stations and can do so for next 13 years. USA can build 0 :Where is the fairness? Anyway, as I mentioned a few days ago, we can partly blame Obama, for not getting the deal passed through the Senate which would have stopped Trump from withdrawing from it.

Let the USA worry about Trump. In a few days, we could have real set of incompetent clowns running the show right here in UK, should Dumb and Dumber and Dumbest (Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott) get in power.

He issued executive orders banning immigration from countries believed to have terrorist links which were deemed illegal by a number of judges.

I understand that Obamacare had its faults and was expensive but cancelling it before its replacement leaves thousands of Americans without recourse to healthcare.

As for the wall, I realize that it is a long term project but given Trump's propensity for using social media it would be possible to give progress reports to re-assure his supporters that progress is being made.

As for the power stations,the US could build as many gas power stations as it wants and tackle the issue of climate change at the same time without the need for coal.

Given that I live in the UK, I'm happy to let the USA worry about Donald Trump because as you rightly say we in the UK have a number of problem politicians of our own regrettably.

Mick 05-06-2017 22:22

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35901830)
He issued executive orders banning immigration from countries believed to have terrorist links which were deemed illegal by a number of judges.

Yet there was other judges who said the travel ban was legal so whose right ?

Let's not forget the list of countries on ban list was a list compiled by the Obama Administration.

But he has not violated the Constitution, in fact one could say the Constitution says the President can stop entry in to the U.S if it is deemed necessary. It's just some judges felt his previous pledge to shut down all Muslims entering the Country and linked his Executive Order to this and thus, blocked it, a second one was then later halted too. So this has now been referred to Supreme Court. There are 5 Republican Supreme Court Judges and only 4 Democrats, thus they could over rule previous court ruling currently blocking Trump's Travel ban.

ianch99 05-06-2017 22:56

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Trump is showing the world his well honed abilities to p**s off his allies:

Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!

Imagine if the PM had attacked the Mayor of New York in this way after 9/11 ...

The man is a prize clown. Some good news, we do have an official directive to ignore the idiot:

Kellyanne Conway Says Media Should Stop Covering Donald Trump’s Tweets

Mick 05-06-2017 23:04

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35901839)
Trump is showing the world his well honed abilities to p**s off his allies:

Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!

Imagine if the PM had attacked the Mayor of New York in this way after 9/11 ...

The man is a prize clown. Some good news, we do have an official directive to ignore the idiot:

Kellyanne Conway Says Media Should Stop Covering Donald Trump’s Tweets

You're not doing a good job of ignoring him, moaning about him.

ianch99 05-06-2017 23:09

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901840)
You're not doing a good job of ignoring him, moaning about him.

Glad that you equate me with the Media, I am flattered :)

So you agree with him then? Is he right to criticise the Mayor of London?

1andrew1 05-06-2017 23:10

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901840)
You're not doing a good job of ignoring him, moaning about him.

All patriotic Brits should condemn Trump's cynical tweets about London's Lord Mayor and I urge you to join me in doing so.

Mick 05-06-2017 23:43

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35901843)
All patriotic Brits should condemn Trump's cynical tweets about London's Lord Mayor and I urge you to join me in doing so.

Sorry, don't do requests and I don't do urges either.

I am no fan of the current useless, Mayor of London and I know many other patriotic Brits who would not come to his defense either.

passingbat 05-06-2017 23:45

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35901811)
I imagine that a lot of the people who voted for him are wondering what he has actually done to improve things for them.

.


No they are not.


Two lists here; one for 50 days in and one for 100 days in. The 50 day list contains things not in the 100 days list hence both lists (plus the 50 day list comes from Andrew's favourite web site ;))


Southern border illegal immigration is now down 70% since Trump took office.


Scroll down a bit on the 100 day list to get to the actual list.


https://www.infowars.com/trumps-acco...first-50-days/


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...irst-100-days/

1andrew1 06-06-2017 00:19

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901845)
Sorry, don't do requests and I don't do urges either.

I am no fan of the current useless, Mayor of London and I know many other patriotic Brits who would not come to his defense either.

No one's asking you or indeed anyone else for that matter to support one of London's most popular mayors.
I'm just urging you to condemn the picking up a feud with the Mayor of London at the time of our country's greatest need.

Mick 06-06-2017 00:55

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35901849)
No one's asking you or indeed anyone else for that matter to support one of London's most popular mayors.
I'm just urging you to condemn the picking up a feud with the Mayor of London at the time of our country's greatest need.

Not a chance, I can't stand the man, he is a liar, like some others who reside in his party.

I would also have to contest the popular part, he has far from delivered on the promises he made during his Mayoral Election.

Besides, he has said some controversial stuff, especially, while in the U.S, like those who live in big cities should come to expect, terrorism, saying it like it's some part and parcel of life. I think he said this when there was an explosion in New York. I would say this was a tad insensitive. So he is no angel himself. So fancy him saying that, while New York was in their hour of need. He also took side swipes at Candidate Trump while he was there.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...-a3347891.html

Damien 06-06-2017 06:43

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
It is out of order for the head of another country to use the terrroist attack as a chance to have a go at an elected official here but that's Trump for you. He isn't endearing themselves to Londoners ahead of his state visit.

---------- Post added at 06:43 ---------- Previous post was at 06:33 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35901846)
(plus the 50 day list comes from Andrew's favourite web site ;))

Ahh InfoWars. Where the little girls who were murdered by a terrorist at 'liberal trendies'. I remember pre-Trump when they believed terrorist attacks were false flag operations by the Western government, remarkable how they're now the number one threat to civilisation.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:25.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.