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jb66 04-10-2016 12:33

Virgin FTTP
 
My area looks like it is going to get FTTH Q2 next year. I believe FTTH doesnt come with a phoneline. What bundles do those customers get as all the bundles have a phoneline?

For example is the Big Fun the same price in a FTTH area except there is no phoneline?

Ignitionnet 04-10-2016 15:44

Re: Virgin FTTH
 
They may actually have VoIP sorted by then.

Isn't like there's been digital voice over DoCSIS sold on live networks since 2005 or anything.

Failing that it's the same just without line rental in Papworth from what I've been told.

nn012 04-10-2016 16:26

Re: Virgin FTTH
 
Use LE8 5BY on VM's website. Some decent offerings without a phone line are available, for example TV XL with 200Mb BB with 2 TiVos for around £35 when I last checked.

weesteev 11-10-2016 17:26

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
There are specific lightning area deals that don't include Telco, these change on a month to month basis. Still no launch date for digital voice yet although the wheels are very much in motion ;)

Smitherz87 14-10-2016 19:21

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Your only option would be to go on another company VOIP service, however by Q2 I would expect Virgin Media's voice over cable to be live by then.

jb66 14-10-2016 19:46

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Can you get matesrates for non telco areas?

Smitherz87 15-10-2016 09:53

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
I have not tried it myself, I can''t see it being a problem.

jb66 15-10-2016 11:53

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitherz87 (Post 35863748)
I have not tried it myself, I can''t see it being a problem.

Wonder what the price would be

Smitherz87 15-10-2016 13:28

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
pricing is the same for FTTP, they use the same bundled tiers (at least when I last checked).

FTTP is cheaper for Virgin in the long run, a lot less to go wrong once installed.

Ken W 15-10-2016 21:27

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitherz87 (Post 35863811)
pricing is the same for FTTP, they use the same bundled tiers (at least when I last checked).

FTTP is cheaper for Virgin in the long run, a lot less to go wrong once installed.


Will this FTTP rely on the internet, if so if the internet goes down folk will be left with no phone.


So if folk need to make a emergency 999 call they could not.

Ignitionnet 15-10-2016 21:35

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35863890)
Will this FTTP rely on the internet, if so if the internet goes down folk will be left with no phone.


So if folk need to make a emergency 999 call they could not.

No, it won't rely on the Internet, Ken. It will rely on the local network. The FTTP will have battery backup in the home and where the FTTP goes so that in case of power loss people will be able to make calls for a time.

If you hit Google the rest of Europe's cable companies along with North America and may others have run telephony over cable for a while, and FTTP is more reliable.

jb66 16-10-2016 04:42

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
I'd rather virgin saved money and didn't bother with battery backup. Ive not had a power cut in 5 years. I have a mobile phone if there was a power cut

Ignitionnet 16-10-2016 10:53

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35863936)
I'd rather virgin saved money and didn't bother with battery backup. Ive not had a power cut in 5 years. I have a mobile phone if there was a power cut

Ofcom disagree. :)

Ken W 16-10-2016 11:18

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35863936)
I'd rather virgin saved money and didn't bother with battery backup. Ive not had a power cut in 5 years. I have a mobile phone if there was a power cut


I believe there is a Ofcom ruling that phones must have battery backups.


Several years ago there was a power failure in my area which affected the Virgin land line and the mobile network and I needed to all an Ambulance.


When the power was restored I call VM about the VM land line failure due to the power failure and of the Ofcom ruling that lands should have a battery backup and the agent said call back when you have a power failure!

rhyds 16-10-2016 12:11

Re: Virgin FTTP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35863936)
I'd rather virgin saved money and didn't bother with battery backup. Ive not had a power cut in 5 years. I have a mobile phone if there was a power cut

Last time we had a major storm in my area some parts of the village lost power for 3 days, and the local mobile mast was off for a day at least.

Landline phones and internet were fine however.


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