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The 20th March is a key date
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tru...-says-10802970

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

However cromulent a word gotten is it's important to remember that British English, also known as proper English, evolves faster than that of our American friends. ;)

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

The Democrats probably made several mistakes. The leak showing Clinton getting the questions beforehand would have given Trump some votes.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

I'll take the slow train! ;)


Actually I've liked the word gotten for at least twenty years, maybe longer, long before Trump was even thinking of being president. I don't use it very much; seems like a good time to start :D I've used 'get-go' a lot, for a long time. Mr K seems to think its American; I don't have a clue; nor do I really care ;)

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

The problem is from what I saw, very little of the US election was about policies (in fact, Trump rarely even mentioned them), and more about attacking the opponent.

Talking to friends in the US (including one fairly rabid Trump voter who I actually went to school with who made me look right wing when he lived here), the main concern seems to be loss of jobs from the US to other countries, and a secondary concern is that Obamacare apparently increased health costs for a lot of people, and reduced choice. The thing that caused offence is a raid Hillary was involved with as secretary of state, during which soldiers died.

That's simplifying things a lot. Trump largely just promised to correct those things. Lets hope he follows through on those promises. He may not. After all, he owns a major company that outsources a lot of jobs to other countries, and he may have links to the health insurance industry we are not aware of.

Note: I think Trump will prove to be bad for the US, and if he has links to any foreign power that are beyond normal diplomatic relations, then that needs investigation. My concern is not whether they influenced the election or not (although I don't like the idea they might have, it's done, nothing anyone says or does is going to change that), more that they may have something they can use to compromise him (and therefore America) further down the line.

One thing I don't like about his style of administration. It doesn't feel like much of what the current Administration is being thought through properly. Take the Immigration ban for instance. The fact that was slapped down by so many judges suggests to me that they didn't even bother to check whether the ban conflicted with existing law.

That said, as with most things (Brexit included) I am happy to be proved wrong.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

So you agree the jury's still out then. Perhaps you can convince Damien then.

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When I realised that the BBC, were interested only in attacking Trump, rather than looking at his policies, and were pro Clinton, I decided to find out for myself, by listening to a good few full length speeches from Trump and general research, including a couple of the TV debates.


I found it quite easy to determine his policies, and they were very significant in my view. I listed these in an earlier post with comments on Trump himself


American healthcare, I know little about. The gist I gleaned was that premiums were rising and providers were dropping out under Obama care. Some Republicans seem to be moaning about the new proposal because they see too much Federal financing still going on rather than a completely free market. Personally, I'm just glad I live in the UK, where we have the NHS. It's not something that I will follow closely, as I don't live in the US. The policies I posted previously have far more significance for me and globally in the coming years.

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Oops I did it again!
Making Philip Hammond and Jeremy Corbyn look like nimble political operators, Trump's second travel ban is um, banned before it even starts!
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tru...judge-10803239
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aii-court-live

The jury's doing nothing at the moment as it's been given zero evidence to review. Let's see if it gets anything by the 20th.

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This is pure political motivated BS. The Federal Judge in Hawaii, was appointed by Barack Obama in 2012. Enough said. :rolleyes:

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I rather think that if it was true then Trump would have been the first to show proof ,he would have wasted no time at all in splashing the proof all over his twit machine and spicer would have been able to show some real facts instead of his 'alternative facts'As it stands there is no proof because it did not happen .Trump lied ...again

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So what ? it doesn't matter who appointed him he still has to enforce the law and if the law says that Trumps Muslim ban is illegal then it is illegal .Maybe if Trump paid more attention to his policies instead of making stuff up and lying to cover up his own cock ups he would have more success

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Mick, that's a pretty poor defence. A judge can't just ban something without a robust legal reason, even in the more politicised US.
Most of his supporters acknowledge that as a political outsider, Trump may not be as au fait with due processes as his predecessors. But it's up to Trump to assemble a team that complements his strengths and weaknesses.

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Or just assemble a team that can write an order that's actually legal, I'm surprised we can't hear the alarm bells ringing in the American publics ears from here, to get it wrong again after last time shows a breath taking level of incompetence imo

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Trump puts too more effort into his comfort zone of Twitter to explain away/distract from his lack of policy success.
He needs to invest his time in making sure his policies are implemented correctly and not moaning about the media and legislature. If he hasn't got the skills himself that's understandable, he needs to assemble a team around him that does. You would think he has done this in the business world so why not the political world?

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Wind your neck in. :rolleyes:

He has not made any 'stuff' up AND more importantly, his Executive Order that was due to start today, went through thorough legality checks.

The EO was released well over a week ago. I find it too convenient that this Hawaiian Federal Judge brought in by Obama in 2012, put a halt to it, hours before it's due to start, why not last week? Why not 3 or 4 days after EO was signed?

This was done for maximum embarrassment impact, i.e a totally politically motivated action clearly by an Activist Judge. The fact that two of his orders have been blocked is nothing short of a judicial coup against President Trump.

The President of the United States has EXCLUSIVE and SPECIFIC authority, to do what Trump's EO did and the Constitution does not grant any State any authority over immigration.

The US District Court Authority, to issue orders outside of their own geographical/jurisdictional venues, that affect the nation at large, are an over stretch of their respective jurisdiction. Only the Supreme Court should be able to issue nationwide decisions. e.g: The Circuit Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, has nationwide jurisdiction only in SELECTED cases.

There are 13 Circuit Courts of Appeals. When there is disagreement between circuits, it's finally up to the Supreme Court to decide what the law is.

President Trump is well within his authority under 8USC, Sec. 1182 to exclude ALL non-citizen aliens who may pose a threat to the USA for whatever period of time he so desires and I would say those countries that do not do thorough checks on who enters and leaves their borders or share specific intelligence, he has a right to ban those citizens of those countries, whatever race or religion they are.

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No it's bloody not. I stand by it.

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If you read why he lost the case, it's because he campaigned for a "Muslim ban" in his Presedential election and this is seen as that. And as I've posted before, the advice he was given is that these countries do not pose more of a terrorist threat than others so there was seen to be no case for this ban.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.