Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35394409)

Sorry, that doesn't wash.

A) your link lead to a series of links, rather than something that specifically backed up your assertions
B) you appear to take the word of a FBU campaign document rather than a number of Pension Fund websites (as well as a Unite union website) - either the FBU are being misleading, or pension funds for around six million people are; which do you think is more likely?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35394505)

I don't need to i am one

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394517)

Accept less profits and dividends

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394527)

They should get the extra money from the dividends

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35394530)

Sorry, your statement appears contradictory.

It appears to be stating "everyone will retire at 68, except firemen, who will retire at 60" - am I misunderstanding something?

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394533)

To make money, businesses small and large will have to accept less profits in the future

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35394555)

Don't forget, any nasty evil companies who refused to hand over all their dividends would be immediately "subject to Iran like sanctions blah blah blah....." :rofl:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35394534)

What if the company is at break even or making a loss?

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35394537)

You can think what you want Hugh. Like I said the FACTS are there, and you can believe them or not.

The FBU don't want industrial action, it would be a last resort. They want a negotiated settlement based on FACTS. So it would be rather stupid of them to enter negotiations with fantasy figures.

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And me

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You are assuming that all companies make big profits.

Open your eyes, the country is in a mess, and companies are struggling :rolleyes:

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Would that be from the magic dividend cloud? :rolleyes:

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Yes you are

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Alan, in a previous thread you were trying to tell us that you were high management for a huge company...you have just blown that idea right out of the water.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35394562)

Let's face it ,in Alans world who would bother to set up a company

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35394562)

Let's face it ,in Alans world who would bother to set up a company

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35394555)

Don't forget, any nasty evil companies who refused to hand over all their dividends would be immediately "subject to Iran like sanctions blah blah blah....." :rofl:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394578)

Then there is somthing wrong with the company

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394578)

The country is in a mess due to the rich we need to make final salary pensions the law

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394578)

Then there is somthing wrong with the company[COLOR="Silver"]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394582)

blah blah blah....
.... you need to think ...

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35394590)

You really don't have a clue.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394582)

In a world government, companies will either be state owned or co-operatives

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The worlds a globalised place, you need to think global

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35394589)

There is something wrong with many companies....it's called lack of profit due to the recession...or isn't there a recession in your fantasy world?




You really know how to bankrupt a country don't you Alan :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35394590)

You really don't have a clue.

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan (Post 35394537)

You can think what you want Hugh. Like I said the FACTS are there, and you can believe them or not.

The FBU don't want industrial action, it would be a last resort. They want a negotiated settlement based on FACTS. So it would be rather stupid of them to enter negotiations with fantasy figures.

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And me

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You are assuming that all companies make big profits.

Open your eyes, the country is in a mess, and companies are struggling :rolleyes:

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Would that be from the magic dividend cloud? :rolleyes:

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Yes you are

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Alan, in a previous thread you were trying to tell us that you were high management for a huge company...you have just blown that idea right out of the water.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35394597)

I know there is a recession, the worst since the 1930s and was cuased by the rich themselfs (and the high risks they took and the economic system that benfits them)

My plan can be done with tax rises and a crackdown on tax evasion and avoidance

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The only people who don't have a clue are people who defend and promote a failed economic, social and poltical system :mad: :td: