Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35309695)

Who claims it's the "best phone"?

I would guess that anyone who claims it is the "best phone" doesn't consider those to be limitations, as it does what exactly they want... which really is all that matters. It's the "best phone" for them, as it does what they want, has the features they want, has the apps they want, has the usability that they want.

Which phones beat the iPhone's camera "for years"? The best Android phone of 2010, the Galaxy S, was released around the same time as the iPhone 4, and like the iPhone 4 "only" had a 5MP camera. How many cameraphones with 5MP sensors or higher were available before June 2010? Obviously some, but how many, and how many went above 5MP? I remember my N95 (2007) had a 5MP camera... Unfortunately it was crap, as the JPEG compression was set way too high and could not be changed.

Bluetooth... I never used it when I had Nokia (Symbian S60), HTC (WM), or Sony-Ericsson (Symbian UIQ) phones. Well, that's a lie, I did "Bluejack" people on the train sometimes. Never used it for file transfers, though.

Send a photo by WiFi? You can always email it, by WiFi or 3G...Or send an MMS.

Sync via WiFi? iOS5 is finally bringing WiFi sync (& software updates, and more).

Video call? I've never used Apple's "Facetime" video calling, and know no one else who has. I never used normal 3G video calling prior to the iPhone, and know no one else who has. So I don't exactly miss 3G video calling...

I have no interest in using it as a HDD. Photos show up in Windows Explorer if I plug it in, that's all I need.

Battery? I never needed to change a battery on any previous phone, so the inability to do it on the iPhone doesn't bother me.

Storage? Don't care. I only have a 16GB model, and it's not full.

But what *I* want it for, what *I* use it for, makes it the best phone I have had.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35309769)

For overall still picture quality and recording, I have yet to see an iPhone which can beat the N95 8gb's camera.

Of course if camera phones mean little or nothing to you then it's hardly going to matter.

Originally Posted by Lord Nikon (Post 35309687)

Serious question.

What is it that makes the iPhone the 'best phone'

After all, look at the limitations of the unit. Please note I'm looking at it in base form, without additional apps.
The camera isn't great - it's been beaten by other phones for years. The OS is restricted, you can't send or receive files or photos by bluetooth, you can't do the same or sync via Wifi (iOS5 may change SOME of that) you can't video call on 3G (Three had that feature since launch, I have phones 8 years old that can do it) Once you transfer music onto it you can't with the normal software transfer it back, you can't use it as a hard drive, the battery isn't user changeable, you can't upgrade it's storage. So why do people class it as the 'best phone'?

Please note that although there are apps and hacks you can apply to do some or all of the above you cannot in it's base form, You CAN do all of the above with other handsets in their base form so that is why the question is phrased as it is.

Originally Posted by roger skillin (Post 35309775)

So yes it's a great camera on the N95 but like all phones that's all they're ever going to be, Phones , so the camera argument doesn't come into it really

Originally Posted by Lord Nikon (Post 35309687)

Serious question.

What is it that makes the iPhone the 'best phone'

After all, look at the limitations of the unit. Please note I'm looking at it in base form, without additional apps.

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35309784)

Apple conference today, expect to see news on the iphone 5

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35262336)

So I got my old iPhone 2g back from my dad last night.

I've been playing with it and setting it up with a (possible) view of giving it to my boy.

As it is carrier locked to AT&T I have jailbroken it to 3.1.3 which is the last firmware for that phone I believe.

I got push notification working - sorted youtube and even got it to work in stereo through bluetooth.

The only niggle I'm having at the moment is I want it to 'ding' more times when there's a text message waiting. Does anyone know if there's a jailbreak app for that? App sync you can get apps from whatever website u want then;-)

Cheers - Dilli.

p.s. any idea of other jailbreak stuff to install woud be nice (I put sbsettings on and winterboard)

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35310032)

Confirmed. iPhone 4s it is.

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35309693)

Marketing & the Apple brand...