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Hi..

Is there a link or something that someone can give me of virgins cable network through out the uk.
I will be moving soon and i want to know where i can get the full cable network coverage not just the national service.
I want to stay in Bournemouth and poole but there are still some roads here that dont have cable.


Thanks people.:)

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if you know the postcode of the area you are moving to you put that into VM's site and they will tell you what services you can get

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Not exactly a map but here's a full list of the areas (including xml/csv download)

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/cable/virgin

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tThere is also old maps from 2004

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/maps/llu/25

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Thanks guys but would there be one for virgin tv.:)

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All of VM's services are delivered by cable (except the national BB) so if BB is available in a area via cable then so will the TV and phone

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A very good point.:):dunce:

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The maps/location links given is for cable.. so as Martyh pointed out it will cover TV as well.. All other locations will be able to get the cable national service only so won't include TV.

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You could try ThinkBroadband map tool:
http://maps.thinkbroadband.com/?utm_...cable-coverage

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Sorry but the maps and surveys that BT Global,Virgin Media and Smallworld Media hold of there Cable franchises are confidential and the Data protection Act prevents them making them public because it reveals full details of addresses with post codes, glorious for junk mail.

You have to do it the long way and use the Post Code search facility online searching individual properties or contact the relevent companies.

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If you see a CATV,Cable and Wireless,Nynex,NTL or Virgin Media socket in the property then you can get all 3 services.

The only Cabled areas where Virgin TV is not available is the Analogue only areas where the service is no longer available to new customers and such areas are waiting to be upgraded and thus will only offer you Broadband or Broadband and phone or nothing at all. Those areas are Milton Keynes,Westminster and a small part of Southampton and Leicester and I think Slough?

Your area should be safe from that as the above areas are restricted due to the layout of there cities,local conservation rules and commercial agreements.

Every property you look at, make a note of the post code and search it on the Virgin Media website, a quick way of finding out if a street is cabled is if it has the small grey or brown sometimes white junction boxes outside the house, indicates that house has had cable before. Another one is to look out for the green or sometimes grey street cabinets.

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Regarding the black (in our area) street cabinets. I do notice sometimes in areas say a mile from where cable is available that there is the odd black street cabinet with a NYNEX manhole in front of it. Are these for servicing the core network or something? I see them in places where cable is definitely not available. Here's one: http://g.co/maps/ked6b

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Sorry but the maps and surveys that BT Global,Virgin Media and Smallworld Media hold of there Cable franchises are confidential and the Data protection Act prevents them making them public because it reveals full details of addresses with post codes, glorious for junk mail.

You have to do it the long way and use the Post Code search facility online searching individual properties or contact the relevent companies.

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Not sure what the DPA has to do with it when i can find any postcode/address i wish with a pretty map telling me where it is on the internet, happy to be enlightened though.

http://www.royalmail.com/postcode-finder

If one was inclined you could enter every combination of postcodes and and get as many addresses as you wanted to send junk mail.

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Possibly, or Cable and Wireless/Nynex probably pulled out, they probably went over budget when building there network and decided to stop. I would have thought Cable and Wireless would have stopped expansion in areas deemed not to be commercially viable in there eyes, at the time, not only did they spend money on acquiring Cable firms, but they had to invest in upgrading the network to Digital, a year later(1998) Sky launched its Digital service and also at the time, they held a 50% stake in One2One now T-Mobile which was still growing at the time so I guess a lot of money went into that too.

Round here, Cable London pulled out of a council estate in 1999 because after when Telewest acquired the remaining 50% of the company I imagine they would rather invest the money on upgrading the existing network instead of expanding it.

Perhaps Virgin Media might use that in the future if it intends to cover your area.

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I use Google Street View to see if a street has a VM cabinet. Obviously not in areas where it's all in below ground pits (e.g. Mortlake) - but at least it's something you can do from the comfort of your chair.

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Yes but as I said in my post above, I'm finding many cabinets relating to cable tv in streets but there is no cable service in these areas.

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I've never heard of that. A VM cabinet is there to serve a street. They have a CATV pit cover on the ground in fromt of them. Is that what they were?

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Yes they say NYNEX on the manhole cover in front of them, there are small sized ducts running to the left and right with smaller manholes that also say NYNEX.

http://www.google.co.uk/maps?q=Arrow...50.31,,0,21.59

There's another one. Strange hey?

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Ah yes. Nynex. There is an extensive thread somewhere about that.

What I meant was that I'd never heard of cable cabinets or manholes where there is no cable service.

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They do exist, in places where they stopped building when the money ran out.

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Virgin should expand its Cable area!

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Samknows have a scrollable map that can check any road for services here http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_mapping

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Hmm - looks interesting.

Pity their drop down "select" list doesn't include our road. It's only been there 60 years ;)

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Ignore the search box, just use the map and click on the road - it should then prompt to enter the house number

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Nynex acquired some smaller cable operations like Bolton Cable Vision and then once that happened they expanded to all streets and properties well until the merger talks with Cable and Wireless started, in 1996 Bell merged internationally with Nynex making Bell and Nynex one company then acquired the UK operation of Videotron, then shortly after Cable and Wireless got there hands on the UK arm of Bell/Nynex UK, Cable and Wireless probably then focused on Digital and future services rather than expanding. 2012 is here now, Virgin Media now own the franchise and as new streets and buildings have sprung up since 1994, it needs expanding once again.

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BT Infinity will soon cover 75% of the UK, Virgin Fibre area only covers 50%, that needs to go up!

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that map made me laugh as for example it shows that most of Stoke isint covered when it has infact been for years lol

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What's interesting is in the case of that second picture I linked to they have recently done a couple of digs on the duct and tarmaced it back over. So whether or not that particular cabinet does anything or ever did, the duct itself is certainly still in use.

Strange that the second map also shows a small part of Wirral called Hoylake is covered. The Virgin Media Business network map shows the same but that area has no service at all!

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Here is an NTL/Telewest combined franchise map. It shows the core network and franchise areas, although in some of these areas local network build was never completed, and along part of the south coast never started.

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interesting stuff, cheers

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That is an old one, even the core network is wrong, at the time and even more so now.

I think the cable footprint is company confidential, if it isn't I'll post a more up to date version

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the NTL Telewest Business logo is the give away that its old, still interesting tho ;)

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NTL/Telewest Business only changed it's name about 2 years ago to Virgin Media Business..

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i know but alot can & has happened in two years ;)

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They removed the PDF version I posted shortly after NTL Business rebranded. Might be old, but Virgin Business are still using it as the basis for their current maps. The Cable Modem Serviceability map gives the best indication of where local cable services are in place, although having looked at it, Plymouth and Torbay have been missed off, so even this is not totally accurate.

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Why does the core network spread right down through Cornwall when there is no service there?

The Virgin Media Business map isn't totally accurate. It shows a few small dots of red where there is definitely no service.

Though possibly the areas where I keep seeing Virgin Media cabinets but where you can't get TV are areas servicing Virgin Media Business cable modems only? Do such areas exist?

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The core network is used for other things other than consumer cable services.

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How do you think Virgin connect to other countries. Cornwall is the hub for most of the submarine cables going to America/Africa etc.

The red dots are just there for reference in some cases.

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such as ?

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Business fibre, leased lines, wholesale connectivity, educational networks, backhaul for mobile transmitters, telephone trunking, etc.

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DPA would only apply if the maps included any personally identifiable information. Postcodes, street names and house numbers may be part of your personally identifiable info, but they are not personally identifiable info themselves. Even if they were, it would not stop the companies publishing maps with no house numbers or postcodes.

The various operators may consider it confidential information, but it is not covered by the DPA.

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Some years ago, when the network guys at Telewest used to post a monthly 'blog' on engineering stuff, there used to be 'diagramatic' map which showed the core network with number of links with the speed/capacity. From memory it used to show info on the peering links to Google, BBC and the likes.

Cheers

Grim

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As well as carrying all Virgin Media services the VM Core Network provides backhaul services for other Carriers such as BT, C&W, Verizon, SSET, GEO, Orange, T-Mobile, O2, COLT, Vtesse, Abovenet, Interoute plus thousands of other large businesses.

Virgins Business is just not constrained to their cable franchise areas, their residential arm is, to some degree, but for Business, they can connect to most places in the UK.

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That is most definately correct, Virgin Media provide services for Westminster City Council, No Cable TV franchise there although, the phone network may still remain.

Also for Isle of Dogs, only the telephone network is in use around there for business,local authorities and remaining residential customers, the Cable TV service was abandoned many years ago.

And also in my area a Telewest/Cable London area, NTL had a manhole cover and some sort of cabinet with the NTL logo and a contact number on the side, that was quite a few years before the merger, so NTL had a national infrastructure before any mergers took place. Round the corner from there, NTL Broadcast had an office there, although the logo was replaced with Arquiva following the takeover.

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Is there any maps showing the CURRENT Virgin Media Network?

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Have you read the thread? Post #1 asks the question and the rest of the thread snswers it wuith a basic NO other than the difficult to use Virgin Business maps.

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Yes, but none that are publicly available

Would make it too easy for competitors to target VM's customers

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City centre in Liverpool is business telephones only as it feeds the business district.

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Oh right, I've noticed some Virgin Media cabinets in the shopping area. So there is no cable TV/broadband service? Just phones?

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Yeah, for the most part. I've visited the business telco exchange in the city.

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Didn't realise VM had separate telephone exchanges. I always thought that the signal from the copper telephone lines gets transferred onto the VM fibre network in a street cabinet, which would then go to a headend such as Bromborough.

Also, seeing as you're (fairly) local do you have any idea where the Bromborough headend is?

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your head end is Baguley in Manchester :)

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What do these businesses do for internet?

I mean most businesses are switching to Voip ect....

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Business ADSL when it was Telewest, not sure now it's VM Business?

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regarding the pics of cabinets with no apparent services to the home these are probably (as has been said previously) whats known as 'stranded plant'.
the duct is in, the tees to the houses may well be in, but theres no trunk feeder cable or 50pr telephony cable pulled to cabinets and indeed no furniture inside the cabinets to which to terminate the cables onto.
however there is a dept within VM who will cost out areas such as these (hard works been done because the ducting is down) so theres every chance places like these would get a budget to activate them.
make enough noise on the cable my street website and they may take an interest.
as regards the ducting not serving resedential subs but going through towns and such,i live in a row of 4 houses (at No3), a VM duct runs past the gable end of No1 but it only carries the fibre between the hubsites at bolton and blackburn! so no cable for me :(

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what are the advantages of VM business BB as apposed to residential ?

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It's not traffic shaped... it has a fault fix time of 4 hours if you need an engineer.

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oh right, do you need to provide anything such as a VAT number ?

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I'm not sure, it wasn't my area. Have a look at
http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk...rnet-Services/

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thanks was just wondering as i run a small business from home but its not VAT registered

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Huh? How come it says brmb on the IP address for the connection?

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Baguley is your regional headend but Bromley is your National headend.

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But where does the brmb bit come into it then? That stands for Bromborough.
Sorry for all the questions I'm just interested in how it all works. There is a small VM building on the industrial estate in Bromborough.

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I doubt it, Pete. There's only Langley & Knowsley now and brmb isn't Bromley. LOL.

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It still gets listed even though it is a rescue centre now for the network or something along those lines as is Knowsley, everything is supposed to hang just off Langley now.:erm:

brmb is Bromborough.

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That's your CMTS (UBR) The location of Virgin Media hub sites is security sensitive as they contain expensive equipment. Believe me VM have dealt with security incidents around CMTS cards.

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Not since Friday though do remember you are not a number you are a free man.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/02/15.jpg

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LOL I know.. I was just saying I've dealt with those security incidents :)

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Its odd though as some of the new apartments in the city are listed as having cable TV.

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Yes there are pockets of TV & BBI closer to the waterfront.

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So mainly dealing with the broadband side rather than the TV?

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Yeah.

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They provide ADSL down there own lines? Or does the business have to use BT leased lines for that part?

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I know Telewest Business used to use ADSL on their own business lines.

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No you don't need to do that.

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All the local councils in North London used Telewest Business and that has recently been extended to the primary care trust. All the telephone numbers have changed to 0203 numbers because of it.

So Virgin Media Business must be doing something right to get those sort of contracts.

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Its the superfast broadband :angel:

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Or cheap contracts they supply the councils so just incase the streets need digging up they've always got there way around the planning permission and way out of MATV contracts. Everyone knows how much Virgin Media hates MATV contracts, what a waste of money!

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Yes, the MATV contracts were a pain.

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I can imagine, technology changes and then something else comes out then the residents and councils bother Virgin Media about upgrades and improvements which costs more money.

Then when tennants move out, they either take the equipment with them or dispose of it which costs more money

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What's an MATV contract?

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Master Analogue TV contract, it's a contract between a Cable company and an organisation such as the council or housing association to provide Analogue or even Digital TV to the residents of that organisation.

For example, rather than the council spend millions on installing communal aerials and dishes, the council would make an agreement with Virgin Media to provide access to Analogue or Digital TV basic channels BBC1,BBC2,ITV1,Channel 4,Channel 5,ITV2 ect...

The cost would come out of the residents rents or building service charges something like 89p per week per household.

MATV contracts are usually done in areas with problems getting decent TV reception.

With Analogue, if too many people use the system at the same time, it is known for the picture quality to become poorer.

The same cost is charged by councils for those with an communal aerial and dish known as a Integrated Satellite Reception(IRS).

Currently, if you plug in your TV directly into the Virgin Media Cable socket, you will pick up channels 1 to 4, this will end in most areas as the contracts to do so with local authorities comes to an end.

Milton Keynes, the service is billed directly to the customer and costs £4 per month, it is no longer possible to have the set top box service in this area, those with a set top box can still choose some available premium channels with there service.