Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Yes according to reports its going to take them a considerable while to review 1.6 million claims.

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One cannot blame the decision makers nash as they have to apply the rules as are set in their remit as the fault lies much higher up IMO.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

I know Den, But this panel of judges get paid extra for everyone the turn down ,I heard !

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

I think that might be an internet rumour, rather than reality...

There's only one judge, and sometimes a doctor and someone else.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be.../your-hearing/

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Yeah that's why people get the decision overturned when it comes to the appeals. Because the when you get the report back on why you failed in the first place the report omits everything that was said, the evidence and happened in the assessment. Of course the DWP do the decision making....

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

They make a decision based upon the information presented in the assessment, as well as other supporting evidence; they do not validate the assessment.

My wife works in the same building as a couple of hundred of the DMs.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Great Tory plan in action.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

But can the DWP honestly say they didn't see bad assessment's coming from a company that puts people through an assessor's course no previous medical knowledge or qualifications needed making those assessment's. My assessor declared me physically able because i could move nine feet from my riser chair to the kettle in the kitchen if only saying it made it so I'd have paid her. She described my periods of depression as bouts of being unhappy and pain levels as perfectly managed by medications none of which reflected the answers i gave her or the fact i was sweating like a tap with snow on the streets it was anything but a warm day and couldn't move my right arm because of pain.

I am fortunate that i had a fantastic GP and three consultants who all made it clear that I wasn't fit for work and were prepared to state that in a tribunal if necessary but the assessment was a total joke and not everyone has the fortune of having a condition that cannot be faked or a medical team that cares. The system is broken it's not working and it's time it was handed over to the NHS yes they won't make assessments to fit a quota system from the DWP but then the appeals process would be hugely reduced saving a considerable amount of money there.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

IMO assessment's should be brought back in house because the current system as it stands is utterly unfit for purpose.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

There is a lot of agreement for that proposal, only problem is that it would lead to more Civil Servants, which people also seem not to want..,

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

The trouble is in this country is you are damned if you do and you are damned if you don't a lot of the time.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Who are these 'people' you are referring to?

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

The public are a bit fickle. They want less civil servants, but the private sector, whose motive is profit not public service have to fill the gap. They'll only be interested in targets and getting the next contract, not fairness. After years of cutting civil servants there is now mass panic recruitment after the Brexit vote, so this must be what the public wanted after all !

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The NHS and Pensions are being hit in the pocket because there are now more people alive, and they're living longer.

The same in a way applies to the disabled, the more there are the less they get from the pot.

The NHS are trying many 'schemes' to reduce outlay - as in the constant attempts to deny the obese, smokers, drinkers etc the same service as 'normal' people get. Is it really any wonder that the Disability powers are doing the same?

In both cases, there needs to be a lot more money going INTO the pot to ensure everyone has a fair share - otherwise we will all soon end up with nothing.

Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

DWP spent £100m on disability benefit appeals, figures reveal.

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Re: Worrying news for ESA claimants converting from DLA to PIP.
 

Whilst making the lives of the sick and disabled a misery (an extraordinary amount of deaths have occurred too) through these reforms/cuts, it has actually cost the taxpayer more overall.

2/3 of appeals are said to be successful (the solicitor that I use claim a 100% success rate). Despite my severe disabilities I was awarded nothing and after their involvement obtained the highest amount available.

It has been claimed that their was a culture of routinely turning down the claims again at the Mandatory Reconsideration stage, so as not to undermine the quality of the initial decision making process. Statistics and internal whistleblowers have backed this up.

My worry is that not every disabled person has the strength to fight or the resources to appoint a solicitor to deal with this problem.