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i don't see how they could possibly turn you down :tu:

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I don't think you're going to have any problems at all and we found the forms much easier than the old DLA ones. It's never nice going through this stuff but don't let the all the social media garbage add to your worries. There's nothing to be gained by that at all. :tu:

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So sorry to hear that dilli but sadly it was just a matter before that dreaded envelope came through the door.:(

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Sadly a imperfect system does this a lot more then you think it does.

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That it certainly is but l don't think you can blame the civil servants who carry out this task as they get their orders from those above who set the criteria for PIP.

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From all I see/hear from various sources I don't trust a fair assessment to take place.

I may think I'm a genuine case but plenty in here and some other people I know don't.

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Ignore the haters dilli till they walk in your shoes they have no right to judge. Take my illness I'm very ill with it yet there are people who only have a few flare ups, then there is peanut he is far worse than me. I may look ok and if I hear one more time oh look at you I bet you have no trouble buying clothes when I want to scream actually I do it is not nice having to look in the children's department for clothing when your a 48 year old woman. Some people really need to think before they make comments they know nothing about.

I say ignore the haters and embrace the people who understand.

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Yep a prejudiced mind is a closed mind weenie...

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One of the main things is to make sure you have up to date medical information stating how much your condition affects you on a daily basis and the daily needs you have because of it as PIP is not the awarded for the condition itself but on how you are affected by your medical conditions.

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I think one of your 'tools' has got to you Dilli. ;)

You have known, serious medical conditions and plenty of evidence to support that fact. I'm not sure what you're worried about but do you think you won't qualify for the enhanced rate on both care and mobility? I think you'll find out it's easier than you've been led to believe but whatever the outcome worrying about it for months won't change anything except your state of mind for the worse. :tu:

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The fiddling is undoubtedly there, but I doubt it's as prevalent as the media would have you believe. My reason for this? Simple. I know people who are claiming, and most of them do have genuine reasons for their claims.

That's not hard evidence by any means, but then neither is a newspaper article showing one man climbing mountains while claiming benefits evidence that mass fraud exists.

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The fraud cases are not quick one-off instances. They have often gone on for several years. Therefore they have not been in the fraud figures for all of those years. There is undiscovered fraud not in the figures. There is also "difficult to disprove" fraud where people are getting away with it. In the past, it would have been back pain that was the most lied about or exaggerated condition. Nowadays depression is the easy option. Impossible to disprove. All you have to do is get your GP to prescribe anti-depressants and that is the required "proof". Even though technically, taking the anti-depressants should mean you are no longer depressed and not eligible for benefits.

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And the frauds have to be weeded out; this can only be of benefit to genuine claimants and the taxpayer. If there are "haters", they are people who hate fakes and fakers who hate the fact that they are being found out.

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yay

vote Kursk:cleader:

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Arf arf touché :D

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The trouble is that people can easily lie about working off the books for example, living with someone, subletting council property, hiding assets, exaggerating/feigning symptoms, their identity or any number of things which might affect their entitlement too or the level benefit they receive. You might feel you 'know' they have circumstances/issues which can be claimed for but if you don't know all the detail of what they're claiming it's impossible to say if or to what extent they're abusing the rules. Having said that I think most people would have a great deal more sympathy for someone who's genuinely suffering in some way and claims a bit too much than someone who sets out to defraud the system for as much as they can.

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hey diddle diddle sadly the runners on the fiddle

Marathon runner said he could not walk claims £38k in disability benefits

After being awarded disability living allowance Totterdell set about training for marathons, half-marathons and other running activities during the six-year scam.


Prosecutor Ian Foinette told Canterbury Crown Court Totterdell claimed benefits totalling £38,491.60 between September 2009 to May 2015.

His wife is due to stand trial next year for a similar offence. In application forms the couple, from Dover, Kent, allegedly claimed Totterdell also needed sticks or crutches to walk.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/836...ham-totterdell

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****.