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Chad 02-04-2012 18:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35408603)
Yes l agree most of these other channels are useless but l suspect Virgin got them quite cheaply when they signed the carriage agreements.
Yeah probably. I'd imagine there is a lot of channels that fall into that category. Wonder if Virgin will renew the deals if and when the current contracts run out?

Upon closer inspection of the channel list, I'm astonished at how many channels I get that I don't ever watch. I'm all for choice and content but I want quality not quantity. The below channels don't ever get viewed in my house:

BBC Parliament
Best Direct
BID TV
Bloomberg
Boomerang
Boomerang + 1
Cartoon Network
Cartoon Network Too
Cartoonito
CBBC
CBeebies
Challenge + 1
CITV
CNBC
CNN International
Community Channel
Current TV
Disney Channel
Disney Channel + 1
Disney Junior
Disney XD
Disney XD + 1
DMAX
Eden + 1
Euronews
Extreme Sports
Film4 + 1
5 USA + 1
5* + 1
Gems TV
GOLD + 1
Home
Home + 1
Home & Health
Horror Channel
Ideal World
Jewellery Maker
Liverpool TV
Motors TV
Movies 24
Movies 24 + 1
National Geographic +1
NDTV
Nick Junior
Nick Jnr 2
Nick Replay
Nickelodeon
NickToons TV
Pick TV
Price-Drop TV
QVC
Sky LIVING +1
Sky LIVINGit +1
Speed Auction TV
Syfy +1
The Box
Tiny Pop
Travel & Living
True Entertainment
True Movies 1
TV5
Universal Channel +1
Watch + 1
Yesterday +1

That's 65 channels, more than a third of my current package, that I never watch. I couldn't even tell you what programmes air on some of these channels. If Virgin asked me would I be happy to lose these channels and in return they would deliver all the non-SKY missing HD channels, SKY Atlantic, Premier Sports and more On Demand content I'd bite their hands off.

I'd imagine most XL customers could identify between 30 to 50 channels they could live without.

mhatter67 02-04-2012 18:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35408603)
Yes l agree most of these other channels are useless but l suspect Virgin got them quite cheaply when they signed the carriage agreements.
For once I have to disagree, TiVo through wish lists has introduced me to old hammer horror classics and some really bad but good films on the Horror Channel!

Back to the question of XL subs I never understand why it seems the VM have to pay for channels to come on their platform and SKY get paid to put the same channels on their own platform, is it down simply to the potential numbers of viewers:confused:

toady 02-04-2012 18:23
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Chad there would be uproar in our house if we lost the Kids channels :shocked:

muppetman11 02-04-2012 18:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by toady (Post 35408630)
Chad there would be uproar in our house if we lost the Kids channels :shocked:
Couldnt agree more Disney Cinemagic HD , Nickelodeon HD , Disney HD and Disney XD HD are the main channels on in our house until evening :D

Chad 02-04-2012 18:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by toady (Post 35408630)
Chad there would be uproar in our house if we lost the Kids channels :shocked:
My opinion on the kids channels would change if the Mrs. and I have kids. Even keeping the kids channels would still leave me with over 50 channels I don't watch.

It will never happen but I would love a TV service where I can pick and pay for the exact channels I want to watch. Your Freeview channels would be free then every channel you add thereafter costs around 30p per month.

LexDiamond 02-04-2012 18:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35408627)
For once I have to disagree, TiVo through wish lists has introduced me to old hammer horror classics and some really bad but good films on the Horror Channel!

Back to the question of XL subs I never understand why it seems the VM have to pay for channels to come on their platform and SKY get paid to put the same channels on their own platform, is it down simply to the potential numbers of viewers:confused:
Sky have to pay the channels!

carlwaring 02-04-2012 18:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35408627)
Back to the question of XL subs I never understand why it seems the VM have to pay for channels to come on their platform and SKY get paid to put the same channels on their own platform...
Sorry but that is not quite accurate.

Anyone can launch a channel on the same satellite that Sky rents from Astra for its UK service. However, they have to pay Sky for the convenience of being their EPG and also - if they don't want to be FTA - to use Sky's encryption services.

With cable being a closed system, channels do have to pay VM to be included in their TV service.

The only bit I don't know is, as with other posts in this thread, what criteria decides which "pack" the channel goes into.

I also agree with Chad's point about the number of channels I don't watch but for which I have to pay because of the couple of channels I do want that are only available in the XL pack. But I don't suppose there's anything anyone can do about it. So that's that :)

alwaysabear 02-04-2012 18:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35408635)
My opinion on the kids channels would change if the Mrs. and I have kids. Even keeping the kids channels would still leave me with over 50 channels I don't watch.

It will never happen but I would love a TV service where I can pick and pay for the exact channels I want to watch. Your Freeview channels would be free then every channel you add thereafter costs around 30p per month.
I could identify at least 40 channels that we never watch. I to like your idea , but, as you say it will never happen.

Henkesghost 02-04-2012 18:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35408597)
It's something I've always been curious about too but something we will probably never learn. Comedy Central + 1 and ESPN are both only in the XL package. Surely both channels don't get an equal slice of the XL pie? I'd imagine viewing figures must play part in who gets what also. Actually when looking through the XL package, there are some channels that are XL only that I wouldn't mind seeing go...... if it freed up money to land other channels such as SKY Atlantic or Premier Sports. For me the likes of The Horror Channel, Liverpool TV, Motors TV, Current TV, Travel & Living plus TV5 can all go. I've never watched any of those channels.
Dont you ever get rid of the Horror Channel :mad: Love it:D

Chad 02-04-2012 18:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35408647)
Dont you ever get rid of the Horror Channel :mad: Love it:D
:D

Not quite horror but I would like to see the return of is Most Haunted. Loved the programme, especially their 2 and 3 night live specials. I don't care if people say it was all fake, I found it intriguing and entertaining. SKY finally released the rights to the show about 6 months ago but Yvette and Karl haven't found a new broadcaster:(

OLD BOY 02-04-2012 20:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35408622)
That's 65 channels, more than a third of my current package, that I never watch. I couldn't even tell you what programmes air on some of these channels. If Virgin asked me would I be happy to lose these channels and in return they would deliver all the non-SKY missing HD channels, SKY Atlantic, Premier Sports and more On Demand content I'd bite their hands off.

I'd imagine most XL customers could identify between 30 to 50 channels they could live without.
If you went to Sky, you'd get about 450 channels that you never watch!

Seriously, it makes economic sense to do it this way. If you have a family, there needs to be something for everyone. Also, if you want to get only the channels that you tend to watch, you will have to pay more for those channels otherwise everyone will get less choice. So you wouldn't end up any better off if they did it your way, you'd just pay as much for less.

gaz2810i 02-04-2012 20:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35408627)
For once I have to disagree, TiVo through wish lists has introduced me to old hammer horror classics and some really bad but good films on the Horror Channel!

Back to the question of XL subs I never understand why it seems the VM have to pay for channels to come on their platform and SKY get paid to put the same channels on their own platform, is it down simply to the potential numbers of viewers:confused:
This is something I have always wondered to?

Just read Carl's reply DOH!

windy 02-04-2012 20:27
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COMING SOON TO VIRGIN TV....
or has everyone forgotten.

Henkesghost 02-04-2012 20:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by windy (Post 35408713)
COMING SOON TO VIRGIN TV....
or has everyone forgotten.
Ooh nippy knickers :D

muppetman11 02-04-2012 20:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2012) Vol. 2.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by windy (Post 35408713)
COMING SOON TO VIRGIN TV....
or has everyone forgotten.
Here you go Sony Movies and Sony Movies+1 possibly in May.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...4&postcount=40


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