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RichardCoulter 28-10-2017 18:22

Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
From 28/11/17 Amazon will begin rolling out this service in America:

https://www.dezeen.com/2017/10/26/am...or-technology/

Would you be happy to do this? There will be a security camera for added peace of mind.

I would, but only because opening my front door leads to an area where the parcel could be left, without needing access to my home.

Kabaal 28-10-2017 18:27

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
Maybe if i had a storm door but i don't so no.

Paul 28-10-2017 18:36

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
No chance, someone could follow them, and gain entry to your house.
Your insurance company would have a field day refusing any theft claims.

They can leave it with a neighbour.

Mick 28-10-2017 18:51

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
I am curious how one grants Amazon access... cut them a key?

Yeah sure...

Hom3r 28-10-2017 19:10

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35922277)
I am curious how one grants Amazon access... cut them a key?

Yeah sure...

Its an electronic key that uses something like NFC.

You have a master.

Say you are having family around and you are running late, you can send them via an app "A key" and they can let themselves in.

I would use this, only if I had a front porch that had a second house door.

RichardCoulter 28-10-2017 19:36

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35922273)
No chance, someone could follow them, and gain entry to your house.
Your insurance company would have a field day refusing any theft claims.

They can leave it with a neighbour.

Good point, even if the courier was honest, I'm sure that any subsequent problems would be refused by your insurance company as an easy way not to pay out.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35922282)
Its an electronic key that uses something like NFC.

You have a master.

Say you are having family around and you are running late, you can send them via an app "A key" and they can let themselves in.

I would use this, only if I had a front porch that had a second house door.

So, am I right in thinking that people would have to replace their existing locks with this System (or leave them disengaged when they are expecting a delivery).

My insurance company insists on a minimum level of security for all outside doors, so may not pay out if I used this system. Another excuse not to pay out and a reason that I hadn't thought about before I voted 'other' as it's put me off.

Hugh 28-10-2017 19:54

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
It’s all explained in the article...

Quote:

Amazon Key combines an app, a smart lock and the new Amazon Cloud Cam – an indoor security camera – to provide in-home delivery without the need for physical keys or access codes.

When a driver requests access to a customer's home, Amazon ensures they are at the right address at the right time through an "encrypted authentication process".

Once verified, the door is automatically unlocked and the Cloud Cam records the drop-off. Users can watch this live or review a recording later, and receive regular notifications about the delivery status all through the app...

...An Amazon Key In-Home Kit includes an Amazon Cloud Cam and a compatible smart lock, by manufacturers Yale and Kwikset, and starts at $249.99. Users can set up the system themselves, or opt for free professional installation.

Mr K 28-10-2017 19:56

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
Sounds like a right faff. What's wrong with shove it behind the Wheely bin?

denphone 28-10-2017 20:04

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35922296)
Sounds like a right faff. What's wrong with shove it behind the Wheely bin?

When we order we make sure that someone is going to be at home on the day of delivery.

weenie 28-10-2017 21:17

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
My house has a porch then a locked door to the living room but there is no way I would grant access, what I do sometimes is leave the garage open if hubby's motor bike is not there but most of the time I just leave the shed door open and leave instructions for the item to left there.

heero_yuy 29-10-2017 13:06

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
If you're going to be out that often I'd go for some giant post box next to the front door.

RichardCoulter 29-10-2017 13:25

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35922295)
It’s all explained in the article...

But you'd have to either take off your existing locks, remember not to use them if expecting a delivery and pay going on for £200!

Can't see this taking off.

nashville 29-10-2017 13:31

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
This is crazy to me. Your house could be emptied

RichardCoulter 29-10-2017 16:17

Re: Would you allow Amazon access to your empty home?
 
Indeed, all of the Amazon couriers that i've ever had have sounded like EU nationals.

If so, they might be honest, they might not.

If not, even with the film evidence, I doubt they'd ever be caught with the EU open border system.

I know that the police co-operate in bringing criminals who have absconded abroad, but with them saying that some burglaries won't now be investigated due to a lack of resources, I doubt that they would bother tracing someone abroad for a TV etc.

Earlier this year a friend had a delivery whilst she was out and he stole all her garden furniture! It was only when she told the company that she had it recorded on security cameras that he brought the items back with some wet excuse that he thought they'd been left out for the binmen!

Maybe the police would pursue people abroad for something like murder, but not this.

Dude111 30-10-2017 06:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
From 28/11/17 Amazon will begin rolling out this service in America:

There are plenty of sheep in this contry who will and its disgusting....


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