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Alan Fry 24-02-2012 11:10
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35387402)
Well, ignoring the sneering nature of that posting:

Jounalism qualifications

Despite it's perceived nature I would guess that the Sun, Times etc would ask the same levels of qualifications as any other newspaper or media outlet.

An NVQ in baggage handling is not sufficient. :D
I thought all the skills you needed is to be good at writing rubbish and knowing how to hack into phones and computers! :D

TheDaddy 24-02-2012 14:31
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Originally Posted by AdamD (Post 35387314)
Hmm, didn't they use the headline "It was the sun which won it"?

Oh wait, sorry, it was "It's The Sun Wot Won It" :rolleyes:

Says it all really, piece of trash paper.
Yes and hardly anyone bought that copy of the paper, Rupert would love it if his papers really could control us but he was slapped down that day by us and has since deftly gone with public opinion rather than try and make public opinion, sure he can make life hard for government but they more than anyone needed to wake up and realise it was the people not some media mogal that need to be kept happy.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35387382)
What skills and qualifications do you need to work for The Sun and The Sun on Sunday? :D
Same as most jurno's today I'd imagine, the ability to use Google...

richard1960 24-02-2012 14:37
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35387530)
Yes and hardly anyone bought that copy of the paper, Rupert would love it if his papers really could control us but he was slapped down that day by us and has since deftly gone with public opinion rather than try and make public opinion, sure he can make life hard for government but they more than anyone needed to wake up and realise it was the people not some media mogal that need to be kept happy.
Yep i agree though i have read that when Rupert Murdoch wanted to get Sky TV up and going the then government led by Margeret Thatcher inserted a clause in the privatisation of BT bill that prevented BT from setting up a TV serivce for many years,so giving leg up to Mr Murdochs plans for Sky tv.

The rest as they say is history the govenment got favourable press and Mr Murdoch got Sky up and running,for him keeping close to those in power paid dividends in the past.

Not so sure that is the case now with the phone hacking scandal.

Alan Fry 24-02-2012 14:39
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35387538)
Yep i agree though i have read that when Rupert wanted to get Sky TV up and going the then govenment led by Margeret Thatcher inserted a clause in the privatisation of BT bill that p revented them from setting up a TV serivce for many years,so gioving leg up to Mr Murdochs plans for Sky tv.

The rest as they say is history the govenment got favourable press and Mr Murdoch got Sky up and running,for him keeping close to those in power paid dividends in the past.

Not so sure that is the case now with the phone hacking scandal.
I thought the clause was to protect cable companies (even thought BT ran a cable network until the late 1990s)

richard1960 24-02-2012 14:42
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35387540)
I thought the clause was to protect cable companies (even thought BT ran a cable network until the late 1990s)
The clause was more benefical to Rupert Murdoch as the cable companies were going to be deep in debt from getting the infrastructure up and running.

The only competition he might have got in the early days was from BT who would have had the cash,but were prevented from operating a TV service.

Alan Fry 24-02-2012 14:48
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35387542)
The clause was more benefical to Rupert Murdoch as the cable companies were deep in debt from getting the infrastructure up and running.

The only competition he might have got in the early days was from BT who would have had the cash,but were prevented from operating a TV service.
Well they did operate a cable TV service in Milton Keynes and Wesmister!

richard1960 24-02-2012 14:49
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35387545)
Well they did operate a cable TV service in Milton Keynes and Wesmister!
They did but to all intents and prurposes Alan that is not really a great threat to Sky is it and was only a very localised service.:erm:

Julian 24-02-2012 14:51
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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35387379)
Retailers can refuse to stock it if they are concerned about the margin.
They are already planning that and do with other titles. Also no involvement in promotions etc.

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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35387379)
They won't do that though as it gets people into their stores who will probably buy some other tat at over inflated high-margin price.
Blimey, you need to try shopping around a bit. ;)

Alan Fry 24-02-2012 14:54
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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35387547)
They did but to all intents and prurposes Alan that is not really a great threat to Sky is it and was only a very localised service.:erm:
I know and they ended up selling it to NTL (but kept the network itself) in the late 1990s

Hugh 24-02-2012 14:55
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35387409)
I thought all the skills you needed is to be good at writing rubbish and knowing how to hack into phones and computers! :D
Well, you're halfway there....;)

richard1960 24-02-2012 14:56
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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35387551)
I know and they ended up selling it to NTL (but kept the network itself) in the late 1990s
yes i know but a bit off topic mate my post was only intended to piont out why Mr Murdoch kept close to those in power.

In answer to another poster.:)

Peter_ 24-02-2012 15:17
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35387566)
I've never come across a newspapers outlet that didn't stock the Sun or the NOTW.

Care to post some links for those who'll not be stocking?
The are still a few in Liverpool who refuse to touch those rags.

Alan Fry 24-02-2012 15:27
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Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35387572)
The are still a few in Liverpool who refuse to touch those rags.
Well I will not be touching them anyway!

TheDaddy 24-02-2012 16:00
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Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35387572)
The are still a few in Liverpool who refuse to touch those rags.
and Julian's is one of them I'd wager...

martyh 24-02-2012 16:32
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There's confusion in the NE ,we have a paper called the Sunday Sun so when it was announced that the Sun would be printed on Sunday there where cries of "thought it already was like" :D

Incidently there where some scousers working on a site i was on who refused to buy the Sunday Sun because they thought it was the Sun :dunce:


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