The Pirate Bay is blocked
 

They didn't hang about did they! Guess this is the start of a very slippery slope. I wonder what site will be next? Guess the BPI now runs the internet in the UK.

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Is it blocked via DNS, IP null routing, packet dropping or how?

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Just tried the 8.8.8.8 (Google) DNS and it's still blocked (redirect to the http://my.virginmedia.com/site-blocked.html page)

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DNS works OK, the IP gets routed to a page that says



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Web Proxies (so I presume VPNs as well) get round the block

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It's got to be at the IP level.

I've got OpenDNS setup on my router but I get the same page.

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hidemyass ;)

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By that do you mean a traceroute to the IP ends up at the wrong place?

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I've got a VPS in the UK which I've installed OpenVPN on and that works. I've also got a VPN in another country and that works.

Guess it's the push I needed to cancel. I hardly bother with the place but it's the principle.

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?

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Vpn does the trick :)

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Stupid, they should know that these days blocking something only makes people want it more, obviously easy to get round.

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Voting for them in the elections tomorrow :)

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Nope,I meant the IP via http, tracert makes it OK

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Interesting. Smacks of transparent proxy, which is going to slow everyone and everything down.

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WTF Music is being shared on TPB and yes I own copyright to the songs!

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If your talking of cancelling VM, then most other UK ISPs, certainly the big ones, are all having to do the blocking. It's not exactly something the ISPs are doing by choice.

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Yeah, I know, but at least BT have held out for a little longer.

It's really just the straw that ... with the recent traffic limits and the fact I haven't long had Infinity installed ... I was going to wait and see what the 120MB would be like when they eventually give me that but I guess this is a good time to leave and make at least make some sort of statement while doing so LOL

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:nono::LOL::gpoint:

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pressumably VM have only been ordered block [Admin Edit: Link Removed] and not any address they feel like (i.e the one above)

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No, it's using the same thing as the IWF filter, advertising the address of the site as a /32 from the filter. Won't affect anything bar filtered IP addresses.

Tracing route to [Admin Edit: Link Removed] [194.71.107.XX]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms CISCOE4200 [192.168.10.1]
2 29 ms 11 ms 9 ms cpc8-mort6-2-0-gw.croy.cable.virginmedia.com [82.43.108.1]
3 9 ms 6 ms 7 ms mort-geam-1a-ge216.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.225.157]
4 28 ms 12 ms 19 ms croy-core-1b-tenge83.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.242.57]
5 20 ms 15 ms 8 ms croy-core-2b-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.86]
6 21 ms 105 ms 44 ms popl-bb-1b-ae10-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.226.5]
7 26 ms 22 ms 17 ms leed-bb-1a-as1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.237]
8 18 ms 19 ms 48 ms know-core-1a-pc200.network.virginmedia.net [195.82.178.146]
9 19 ms 25 ms 27 ms wb7301a.network.virginmedia.net [62.30.0.204]

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This is why it's so worrying and it is the start of a censored internet that is heading to the UK.

This just proves how useless trying to censor the internet is and why people who don't fully understand it should not be making laws.

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excellant article in your link and kind of hits the nail firmly on the head

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Slightly of topic but relevant.

At work yesterday we were talking about this type of thing, and the UK are possibly going to block all adult XXX rated sights, apparently to protect our children from watch porn.

OK block the illegal stuff, but if I want to watch porn surely its my right.

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There are a wide variety of proposals on the table, but none of them involve banning porn outright. They're really just proposing that new customers would have to choose whether to have the content blocked (as happens with mobile internet now) individually.

The main argument is about whether the block would be on by default (requiring users to "opt-in" to porn and other content), off by default (requiring customers to turn on the filter) and whether it should apply to existing customers. The current popular choice is making the decision to opt in or out mandatory when signing up for the broadband service.

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I'd get rid of them links before... comes in. :P

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Presumably this block option will be for violent content and online games as well since violence is a far worse example for children than sex, I think all sane people would agree. Sites with gambling, alchohol and drugs references would obviously be higher up the ban list too of course. Will there be separate options for all these things or will it be a single on/off 'Government Nanny' button that covers everything bad?

I hope the options will be separate. That way we get to bring up our children the way we think is right which is clearly what the government is doing this for. Let's hope they don't simplify it too much so we can focus on filtering out the stuff that's really nasty instead of fretting about a few boobs and a bit of bonking.

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I think the whole thing is a farce, The EU courts have already said in the past that such web blocks are not lawful (I am pretty sure) The ISP's that have been asked to block the pirate bay should make an appeal to the EU courts together.

Infact here is an article from late last year:

"Internet service providers (ISPs) cannot be forced to block or monitor web users' online activity, the European Court of Justice has ruled.

The ruling means that record companies and film studios cannot use court action to coerce broadband providers into policing known piracy websites...."
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/new...urt-rules.html

so technically said web block ordered by the high court is breaking the law.

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While it might only be the council elections tomorrow, I think this is generating a lot of free publicity for the Pirate Party right ahead of the elections.

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Since TPB is a surprisingly low traffic site (not a lot of images, no video content, not actually hosting the raw data) it's also incredibly easy to mirror.

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I wonder why it was TPB that was targeted first. Perhaps because it's the best known? There are scores of torrent trackers to choose from.

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well VM are complying as of today

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...k-virgin-media

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^^ I am aware of this block, but they are complying with something they don't technically have to since the EU already said otherwise. we will just have to wait and see what happens in the coming weeks. I rarely torrent so it doesn't affect me so much, it just worries me as it will end up being more and more websites blocked in the same way and then we will have fully censored internet in the UK. A stand must be made.

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Taking down the Pirate Bay has become political.

There's no way a block on TPB will help the content industries and there's no doubt it's actually doing them more harm than good but they are determined to take it down.

You only have to look at the debacle with MegaUpload to realise they don't care how legal their actions are as long as they seem to be winning the war.

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quite agree ,and i bet it won't be long before VM are taken to a higher court and told to unblock TPB

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Err it won't be VM taken to a court, they're merely obeying a court order. It'll be those who initiated the court action to force the blocking.

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Nothing to do with Virgin Media as it is a law ruling which they have to obey.

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I read that VM are against this, but they have been ordered to by the courts so will comply.

Don't the courts realise that TPB is used for other things than pirating?

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Of course VM are against this. They're in the business of selling high speed broadband which fits in perfectly for things linked to TPB.

VM wouldn't implement such a thing on their own accord. As much as it might irritate them with capacity, its business, they need business and with that they have to take the blow to gain monies/business/customers whatever.

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correct , i had a brain implosion ;)

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Arguing that the main function of TPB isn't to aid copyright infringement is about as stupid as forcing ISPs to waste money blocking it IMO.

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indeed ,i think there's a clue in the name :)

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true.
atleast TPB will be adding new sites to the list as fast as ISP's block them lol

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This block is actually very easy to bypass , don't know why they bothered , even if people can't access it , there are so many similar sites , blocking the pirate bay is a complete waste of time

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Even using google translate bypasses it. Can't search, but you can browse the popular torrents by category and user etc.

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This is all still for debate. There's a lot of arguments for and against including all sorts of content (violence, drugs, hate speech etc.)

If it's too restrictive, then everyone will want to turn it off and it becomes pointless.

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It's always been political.

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I recall at one point someone pulled out the figure that 70% of content on TPB wasn't copyright-infringing.

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10" long knives are used for things other than violence but I am not allowed to carry one in the street.

I read an article
Earlier the creators of tpb are laughing in the face of the descision.. Apparently the free publicity.. Which they quote cannot be brought on the scale of the publicity they have been given.. I.e newspapers like the times.. News reports on the tv etc..has led to
A curiosity and also informed people who wasn't aware of the sites existence leading to an increase of 12 million visits apparently!

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[Admin Edit:: Third party Torrent site link removed]

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I'm not quite sure why this is even necessary - The Pirate Bay in and of itself is not a site which should be illegal imo. What scares me is I feel a block like this opens the door for businesses to get other sites blocked in the UK and elsewhere. That said, I'm sure anyone who must access these sites will find a way to fairly easily.

This seemed relevant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZUSn7I-zNo

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Warning!

Posts have been removed from this thread... Read below:-

Ok going to take the moral high ground which some people will not like, but at the end of the day, as I am one of the owners of this website and regardless of how emotive we feel about this kind of blocking or mass censorship by an ISP such as Virgin Media, we cannot allow links to such torrent sites or post links to get around the block, as it provides access to copyrighted content and this is a breach of our own terms of use and it must not continue.

For clarification, the specific term is as follows:-

Your use of CF shall be in accordance with these conditions, which are non-negotiable.

You agree that you will not:

"Post", transmit, upload, email or "otherwise make available" any content that in doing so infringes upon a trademark, patent, copyright, trade secret or other proprietary rights of any party.

I therefore immediately request that no further links in connection with any torrent site be posted on this forum. Nor will anyone post any link on this forum, to get around the block.

We do not allow any discussion of any kind which borders on illegal and or any "unlawful" activity, this is a standard we have always met since day one and I am not allowing such standards to slip, we do not allow any kind of discussion on hacking a cable modem/TV Set top box for instance, so we cannot allow direct links to "unlawful" torrent content however much you disagree with such political rulings and or court orders.

Thank you for your understanding and co-operation.

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well I can only hope that people get together and challenge this in the European Court of human rights as fast as all those terrorists run to them for their ruling's to be over turned.

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Indeed it is easy. I don't use torrents but i will defend my right to visit any site i wish to and that includes any the Government see fit to ban.

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Works fine using Opera desktop browser with Turbo mode on.

Opera Mini is also good for getting round the 'Three' networks adult content filter on your mobile too ;)

Cheers

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I wonder which orifice they pulled it from :)

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Agree with the ban, if 70% of content on TPB wasn't copyright-infringing then fine, TPB just need to stop the 30% that was and thier site will not be banned.

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The IWF filter has been blocking sites for some years now on just about all ISPs. I don't doubt that a simple offshore proxy would bypass that too but I wouldn't advise trying it or you could end up on the sex offenders register after 6 months or so avoiding bending in the prison showers.

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So what will this block achieve?


According to other news sources ( i wont link dont want to annoy mick :D) 12,000,000 MORE hits to tpb were achieved after the news broke.

In France with their "harsh" anti piracy laws youd expect legal media consumption to have increased but its.....DECREASED.

all those new laws to keep private corporations pockets lined have achieved the exact opposite of what they wanted to achieve.

Id post links to studies that showed piracy INCREASES sales and those that pirate BUY more than non pirates but that link might be modded as well.

I'll shut up now before im banned but i am disappointed that the mods have chosen to keep the bpi happy.

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I am surprised people still use torrents, newsgroups is the way forward until that gets banned.

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Agreed Snoopz whats next? Vm removing our usenet access? If they did that they would lose customers.

Best quote ive read elsewhere today "they need to come up with legal alternatives before they break the internet"

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If there was a valid court order targeting newsgroups, as is the case with TPB, then Virgin Media wouldn't have any choice but to comply or be in breach of the court order

Whether you like it or not, this isn't a VM (or Sky or TalkTalk or BT) issue. The courts have ruled it must be blocked and so the ISPs have to comply

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How dare you block the piratebay VM I pay £60 a month in ***** good faith. Is this what the internet is going to be like now? *****
Were all get around your stupid blocks,how **** dare you

[Mod edit: there is no need to swear excessively]

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You need to direct your venom towards the content cartels, not VM. I don't like internet censorship either, but VM are obeying a court order here.

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The problem is, since the EU courts have already ruled that such blocks are illegal.

I refer of course to the Scarlet Extended SA vs SABAM case in the European Court of Justice, which was ruled on in 2011.

Therefore the UK court is in breach of a ruling made by a higher court, and therefore, the ruling issued by the UK court is actually invalid. Therefore there is no "valid court order".

I am not a pirate, all my movies, music and software is legitimately owned or FOSS. However I will defend my right to visit any website I choose.
Virgin Media need to take this case to the ECJ and point out the already established precedent.

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Yep - I'm not a pirate either - I couldn't work all those sails and I hate parrots. All my stuff is shareware. I'm not 100% sure who the folks were that shared it with me but I'm grateful to them....

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Wrong.

The court said that while content providers can ask ISPs to block specific sites, wider filtering was in breach of the E-Commerce Directive

Source

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This has nothing to do with the BPI or any other organisation involved in piracy combat, by keeping them happy as you put it. This is about standards, as already mentioned, we do not permit any discussion on illegal hacking of CM's or STB's, so we will not allow any links to third party torrent sites, that contain or provide access to, illegally downloadable content.

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Not to split hairs here but no torrent site contains illegal content. All torrent sites are actually legal. What is illegal is downloading copyright materials without permission. Since the torrent site doesnt host the content, they are not breaking the law.

Many people, myself included use torrents to share large linux distros and such, places like The Pirate Bay are the best place for these kinds of things.

Anyway, I dont want to start an argument, just wanted to point out the above point. For anyone wanting to still get on TPB there are obvious ways around it, such as googling for mirrors or just using another site.

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This brings us back to TPB and various other torrent sites' defence of they function as a search engine and do not "contain" illegally downloadable content, and that Google presumably indexes just as much if not more illegal content as they do.

[Edit]
Yeah, what he said.

FYI, most linux distros that are distributed via torrents have their own trackers, e.g. Ubuntu torrents are hosted by an Ubuntu run tracker, not TPB. IIRC TPB don't even run a tracker anymore.

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Could split hairs as much as we want to, any torrent site, may not host the content, but it provides a platform in which said content is made available or can be accessed.

However much we disagree with said Court Order, it cannot be ignored because we feel it is some how invalid, it may be the case that it is but that it is not up to us to decide. A Court ruling has deemed The Pirate Bay, a site which 'provides access' to "unlawful" downloadable content.

Virgin Media is a multi-million pound company, I am pretty sure it's own legal teams have probably tried to argue the same principles, it doesn't matter, a Court order has been issued and cannot be ignored, however much it is disagreed with or however much people feel aggrieved by it.

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So does Google. Does that mean they should be blocked too? ;)

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As far as I know, no court order has been issued to block google, so no it should not be blocked. ;) Winky, right back at you.

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Its all a bit of a nonsense. The new pirate bay website is up and running now and it isnt blocked. Some of my facebook friends pointed it out yesterday.

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Ah, but can you Google it? haha :D

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I hope VM rot in hell for blocking this.

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They had no choice. If they ignore the court order they would be breaking the law.

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Unless this post is untrue, they are breaking a ruling by following the order

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35422696-post62.html

Im quite sure VM could easily have stalled this if they choose to.

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Or they could have "considered their options, like appeal" like BT are doing.

looks like VM were the first to implement block as well, ah well.

Not worth crying about as others have said plenty of ways around block and until the BPI and the "industry" as a whole realise these court orders are about as affective as throwing wet sponges at walls, theyll keep at it.

10 years from now they will have either achieved their ultimate goal of shutting down/breaking the internet completely (that'll save HMV, honest ;) ), or it will be a completely walled garden like the old AOL days.

Welcome to the new stone age BPI style.

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It is, see my earlier post.

We'll see how quick the others are to implement it ;)

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if we all change our virginmedia webspace to just a link to a piratebay proxy will they be forced to take VM offline lol (joke)

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Attempts have been made through the courts to get Youtube blocked, and Wikipedia has also been successfully blocked in the past.

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VM voluntarily blocked it earlier than they had to. Everyone else will catch up eventually.

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I get the feeling this is just a first step in web censorship, it's a dark day in my opinion

Instead of adapting with the times and charging reasonable prices for cd's/dvd's etc, they've decided to censor the internet instead.

Starting to feel like the country depicted in V for Vendetta, where everything is controlled/restricted.

(Doesn't seem to be blocked on Sky broadband, yet)

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I wouldn't have said untrue, as that implies willfull knowlege of it being untrue. Incorrect would be fairer, as it seems I misunderstood the judgement.

The case jusgement in question is available for reading here. Feel free to have a read about it yourselves :)

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Can anyone think of any other way to justify having 100 mbs broadband if you cannot download torrents?

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You can download torrents - that hasn't been blocked

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I said if there was NO torrent downloading!

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I know, but that's not what this thread is about ;). There is still torrent downloads, just one site that has links to illegal torrents has been blocked (with apparently lots of ways around it)

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I understand and will co-operate (I've never posted such anyway) but I do think you are wrong to indicate that copyright infringment is illegal. It does not break criminal law, neither does it 'border' on it. Please change the term to 'illicit'. The term 'unlawful' is actually probably more accurate, but many will not realise this term does not imply a breach of criminal law and so it is probably best avoided. I ask this because there seems to be a great deal of misinformation going about on this one and you don't want to look like you are engaging in such dodgy propaganda I'm sure. Best not to be seen to take sides on this one I feel.

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Is this meant to be a trick question?

Netflix, LoveFilm, online viewing - faster streaming.

Digital game downloads and patch upgrades, for example, the new World of Warcraft, Mists of Pandora, beta version is a whopping 19 Gb in size.

So there is plenty of legitmate things to do with a 100Mb broadband connection. ALL legal content can be downloaded a hell of a lot quicker than a 10Mb connection.

Just for the record, I do not necessarily agree with the blocking, I think it is a waste of time and resources, as there are thousands of other sites like it out there, blocking one website will not change anything one iota.

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Upload speed. Working from home I tend to do more uploading then downloading, so faster upload would be advantageous, but not for the price VM want. I can't wait to get 6Meg upload. With the top 100Mb tier you get 10Mb upload. :D

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I'm sure they could the problem is though, now that the ban has been announced by the courts any type stalling or apealing looks like support for piracy

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can you not get infinity?

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I'm still in my VM contract. When that's done, I'll probably switch to Infinity.

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Sage advice, I have edited my original post to include the term unlawful, as you are quite right, copyright breaches civil law not criminal law. :)

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It's not blocked by BT yet .

Anyone who is still trying to blame English courts or VM need to think a bit and start blaming TPB itself ,if they had shut up shop when they were ordered to instead of changing domains and moving countries to avoid jail,then there would be no precedence set for blocking sites which will become more widely used

Just to add to that ,a site that professes to champion the freedom of the Internet has single handedly caused the start of widespread censorship ....the irony is outstanding

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They are trying to move their servers to the sky the last I heard :)

re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

Seriously !?!?

So basically any site that the media industry deems is to shut up shop when ordered to? Lets not forget this is the same media industry that uses DMCA notices that have proven time and again to not be valid.

I suppose that you are in complete agreement with the US law enforcement agencies coercing the anti-terrorist squad of New Zealand to storm the home of a businessman, terrorising his pregnant wife and children. I also guess you are in complete agreement with the US law enforcement agencies not paying to keep evidence that is to be used against said businessman which could possibly be used in his defence. I also guess you completely agree that said businessman should not have the best law team to defend himself as the prosecutors of the case have tried to do.

I wonder what your position is on Richard O'Dwyer. A UK citizen who having committed no crimes in the UK is possibly going to be extradited the the US to faces charges of conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and criminal infringement of copyright?


Utter nonsense, Newsbinz(?) was the start of it last year.

re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

You've misunderstood my post entirely .I don't agree with any censorship of the Internet at all including forcing TPB to shut up shop ,but they have been ordered to shut and the owners have been sentenced to jail time and as a result of there stubbornness have now allowed Internet censorship to arrive in the UK ,when what they should have done was shut the site down and started up again with a different name and domain,the lesser of the 2 evils so to speak

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No ,it was shut down ,not blocked totally different thing

re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

I love it when someone signs up just to post complete bull excreta

The courts and the media owners have failed because everyone i have spoken to about this who uses torrents have said " I still have access and it was easy to get around".

re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

You start out well but end up contradicting yourself.

I can assure you Newsbinz(?) is still around they've moved to somewhere like the Seychelles and have anti-blocking software as part of their arsenal. It might be called something like NewsBin 2

Which is why this ruling is so bizarre the courts have tried it before and it hasn't worked so they decided to do it again.

re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

some say this

http://torrentfreak.com/newzbin-usen...defeat-100518/

and this backs up what you said ,but either way sites like TPB and Newzbin are responsible for the censorship we now face .Yes they should have questioned through the courts the decision to have shut down orders placed on them but once they lost those appeals they should have shut down instead of giving governments the opportunity to introduce censorship which could be used against other areas of the Internet

re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 

Nice one.

I still think that using the term 'illicit' would cause less misunderstanding. I recognise that 'unlawful' ought to be the best word to use but I fear many may misconstrue it to imply a breach of criminal law when, as you and I both know, it implies no such thing.

I can't really criticise you for having the linguistic standards to stick with 'unlawful' though, since it is technically the best word for the job.