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Telly_ 27-07-2012 20:36

48 Olympic channels.
 
Just though I would give Sky a mention for providing and funding the 48 channel streams for the Olympics an giving them to BBC to ensure everyone can see them free of charge to all.

Well they're free on Sky, freesat but Virginmedia require you to subscribe to a package to recieve them unlike sky and freesat. To be fair that's very low of virginmedia as they have been given the channels for free.

v0id 27-07-2012 20:45

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
48 olympic channels, so why do they have to mess with the schedules of BBC1?

BenMcr 27-07-2012 21:13

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457081)
Well they're free on Sky, freesat but Virginmedia require you to subscribe to a package to recieve them unlike sky and freesat. To be fair that's very low of virginmedia as they have been given the channels for free.

What rubbish. All Virgin's current packages are paid, so what else are they going to do? All packages have had them included for no extra cost - both SD and HD (and this includes those who are still on the £0 sub TV M)

BBC channels on satellite can be viewed without a Sky card, so Sky had no choice in whether they were free or not.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35457082)
48 olympic channels, so why do they have to mess with the schedules of BBC1?

Because they aren't on Freeview

denphone 27-07-2012 21:22

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457081)
Just though I would give Sky a mention for providing and funding the 48 channel streams for the Olympics an giving them to BBC to ensure everyone can see them free of charge to all.

Well they're free on Sky, freesat but Virginmedia require you to subscribe to a package to recieve them unlike sky and freesat. To be fair that's very low of virginmedia as they have been given the channels for free.

Oh dear dear Telly l wish you knew what you were talking about sometimes as perhaps a bit of guidance from thy master would be advisable before you started this pointless thread.:rolleyes:

Telly_ 27-07-2012 21:30

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
The point is if you have a sky dish sky will let you watch the Olympic channels free even if you don't subscribe to sky, on Virginmedia you need ate package. Is that incorrect ?????

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Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35457082)
48 olympic channels, so why do they have to mess with the schedules of BBC1?


Because they're only free on sky or freesat or freesat from sky. If you have virginmedia you need to subscribe to a package an they ae not on freeview.

BenMcr 27-07-2012 21:35

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457092)
The point is if you have a sky dish sky will let you watch the Olympic channels free even if you don't subscribe to sky, on Virginmedia you need ate package. Is that incorrect ?????

Yes it's incorrect. Sky aren't letting you do anything. BBC channels are free on satellite - period. Has nothing to do with Sky

You can buy any satellite decoder and get the channels.

Telly_ 27-07-2012 21:55

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35457094)
Yes it's incorrect. Sky aren't letting you do anything. BBC channels are free on satellite - period. Has nothing to do with Sky

You can buy any satellite decoder and get the channels.


So when you say it has nothing to do with sky.... Let me just tell you something

SKY AEE PAYING FOR THE 48 OLYMPIC STREAMS FOR THE BBC AND GIVING THEM TO FREESAT FROM SKY ,SKY, FREESAT, VIRGINMEDIA for free. It's virgin that are the only provider that require you to have a pay tv package to view them.

If sky weren't providing the capacity there wouldn't be 48 Olympic channels. I can imagine virginmedia are probably seeing if they can report Sky to ofcom for providing the BBC with free capacity lololol

BenMcr 27-07-2012 22:24

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457097)
So when you say it has nothing to do with sky.... Let me just tell you something

SKY AEE PAYING FOR THE 48 OLYMPIC STREAMS FOR THE BBC AND GIVING THEM TO FREESAT FROM SKY ,SKY, FREESAT, VIRGINMEDIA for free. It's virgin that are the only provider that require you to have a pay tv package to view them.

The BBC are required by the terms of their licence to provide any channels unencrypted.

Sky couldn't restrict access even if they wanted to, and the only reason they are doing it is because it's the only way to get all the Olympic content to their STBs.

Once again all Virgin Media's currently sold TV service is a paid service, whereas the BBC channels on satellite can be accessed by anyone with the right kit.

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If sky weren't providing the capacity there wouldn't be 48 Olympic channels. I can imagine virginmedia are probably seeing if they can report Sky to ofcom for providing the BBC with free capacity lololol
Actually from the beginning any Virgin Media customer with TiVo will have been able to access all the content, because the BBC's original plan was to have the extra channels as IPTV content only. http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...TiVo-2311.aspx

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But I do think it's nice of Sky to pay for the extra satellite capacity to allow the BBC to provider the extra channels as linear, so that people without connected TVs can access the extra channels

spiderplant 27-07-2012 22:27

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457097)
SKY AEE PAYING FOR THE 48 OLYMPIC STREAMS FOR THE BBC AND GIVING THEM TO FREESAT FROM SKY ,SKY, FREESAT, VIRGINMEDIA for free.

Wrong. Sky are paying for the carriage on satellite. They are not paying for production of the channels, nor the distribution on cable (which VM receive by fibre)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/rogermose...rt_of_our.html

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Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457097)
If sky weren't providing the capacity there wouldn't be 48 Olympic channels.

Also wrong. It was announced they would be available on cable months before it was announced they would be on satellite
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...ia-sports-deal

jamiefrost 27-07-2012 22:30

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
:confused: What ??

How much of a stretch just to have a dig at Virgin, it's laughable.

Just how would you like Virginmedia to give it to people for free??

It's Been added to packages for free, what else do you expect. You raised the issue so I'd like to hear your solution.

If I phone up Sky and tell them I'd like to watch it for free are they going to install a dish and give me a STB for free!

J

v0id 27-07-2012 22:33

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamiefrost (Post 35457103)

If I phone up Sky and tell them I'd like to watch it for free are they going to install a dish and give me a STB for free!

J

Probably be a one off fee of £175

muppetman11 27-07-2012 22:48

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Who realistically cares , VM subscribers have access to 48 linear Olympic channels , 3D Olympic content , TIVO users have the BBC Sports app , Sky users have 48 linear channels , 3D content , everyone can watch it on the go in my books that makes pay TV a real winner for sports fans.

The BBC and Eurosport 3D coverage of the opening ceremony is excellent.

dave6x 28-07-2012 01:23

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
There are 24 BBC SD Olympic channels (Sky Ch 450-473) Free to Air and Free to View on any old Sky box no viewing card needed so a couple of quid at a car boot sale for a box and a dish will get that for you no probs!!! In fact I've got several Sky old boxes in the garage destined for the tip and an old dish with LNB under my decking!!!

Telly_ 28-07-2012 08:50

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Well virgin intended to only let TiVo customers access to various streams via the TiVo app. But thanks to Sky now all VM customers will have access so I'm not surprised that Vm staff aren't to happy.

Hugh 28-07-2012 10:07

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
That post (and others) was brought to you on behalf of Sky Marketing....:D

Telly_ 28-07-2012 10:17

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Saying Sky couldn't restrict them if they wanted to is silly. Sky could of not provided the capacity if they didn't want to. Virgin were ready to restrict the extra Olympic coverage to TiVo remember.

Sky provided the capacity for 48 channels free of charge knowing they would have to be given free to air to all. No matter how hard you try you can't put negative spin on this. Especially when you consider virgin tried to restrict access to TiVo only.

dave6x 28-07-2012 10:55

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35457197)
That post (and others) was brought to you on behalf of Sky Marketing....:D

Maybe, but from Sky I only have what is Free to Air and Free to View using Sky boxes and dishes that would otherwise be scrapped, and have never directly paid anything to Sky! And installation is a doddle for the average DIYer :)

There are a tremendous amount of SD channels available free on Sky without need for subscription or even a FreeSatFromSky viewing card

spiderplant 28-07-2012 11:26

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457173)
Well virgin intended to only let TiVo customers access to various streams via the TiVo app.

Wrong yet again. See my post here.

If you think we really did pull it out of the hat in two weeks, you've obviously got a higher opinion of VM than I have. :)

Stuart 28-07-2012 11:29

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457201)
Saying Sky couldn't restrict them if they wanted to is silly. Sky could of not provided the capacity if they didn't want to. Virgin were ready to restrict the extra Olympic coverage to TiVo remember.

Sky provided the capacity for 48 channels free of charge knowing they would have to be given free to air to all. No matter how hard you try you can't put negative spin on this. Especially when you consider virgin tried to restrict access to TiVo only.

Let's not try and pretend that Sky are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

They aren't. They are doing this because they saw (even if VM didn't) that having the 24 channels available in both HD and SD is a major selling point, and they figured it is probably cheaper to provide carriage for the channels for free than risk a mass customer exodus.

Telly_ 28-07-2012 11:39

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35457222)
Wrong yet again. See my post here.

If you think we really did pull it out of the hat in two weeks, you've obviously got a higher opinion of VM than I have. :)



You had to pull out he bag in 2 weeks like it or lump it else risk a mass exodus to Sky. Also why else make a big deal about the only place to see the content was via the TiVo app if you weee ways providing linear channels?VM would of known about the 48 channels the same day freesat, BBC, an Sky did so you all have the same amount of time. I think sky had more work to create them thn Virgin did streaming them all vm do is redistribute the Sky provided sat streams.

Maggy 28-07-2012 15:02

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Why don't you just go and watch the splendid coverage of the Olympics on whatever platform of your choice instead of wasting time arguing the very pointless circular argument you just lost? :Peaceman:

Telly_ 28-07-2012 16:36

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457274)
Why don't you just go and watch the splendid coverage of the Olympics on whatever platform of your choice instead of wasting time arguing the very pointless circular argument you just lost? :Peaceman:

In my defence, I didn't even notice there was an argument :D:D :rofl:

Hugh 28-07-2012 16:55

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457302)
In my defence, I didn't even notice there was an argument :D:D :rofl:

Perhaps you had ear defenders on, as well as blinkers?:D

Telly_ 28-07-2012 17:24

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35457310)
Perhaps you had ear defenders on, as well as blinkers?:D

Plus hard hat and hi-vis vest, but anyway enough about maggys bedroom fantasys of me lets get back on topic!

v0id 28-07-2012 21:03

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Another way to watch the olympics
http://tvcatchup.com/channels.html?category=olympics

spiderplant 28-07-2012 21:12

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457302)
In my defence, I didn't even notice there was an argument :D:D :rofl:

To be fair it was a bit one-sided as you failed to produce any evidence. Feel free to post some. :D

Telly_ 28-07-2012 21:27

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35457392)
To be fair it was a bit one-sided as you failed to produce any evidence. Feel free to post some. :D

Evidence of what? If you've left sky but still have the equipment can you watch the Olympic channels for free? YES

If you have frees at can you watch the Olympic channels for free? Yes

If you have Left virginmedia but still have a box can you watch the Olympic channels for free? NO

That's just fact no need to provide evidence but virginmedias increasing obvious desperation is becoming embarrassing.

carlwaring 28-07-2012 21:34

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457398)
If you have Left virginmedia but still have a box can you watch the Olympic channels for free? NO.

Just as you cannot watch any other channels on it because you have stopped subscribing. Try watching a Sky-specific channel (Sky1) without a sub and see what happens :rolleyes:

You cannot compare SATELLITE TV with VM. (Well, you could try but you'd only make yourself look silly. This thread being a case in point ;))

You can only directly compare SKY TV (ie the subs-based service) with VM.

Stuart 28-07-2012 21:58

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457398)
If you have Left virginmedia but still have a box can you watch the Olympic channels for free? NO

Yes

Quote:

That's just fact no need to provide evidence but virginmedias increasing obvious desperation is becoming embarrassing.
OK....

jamiefrost 28-07-2012 22:01

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457398)
Evidence of what? If you've left sky but still have the equipment can you watch the Olympic channels for free? YES

If you have frees at can you watch the Olympic channels for free? Yes

If you have Left virginmedia but still have a box can you watch the Olympic channels for free? NO

That's just fact no need to provide evidence but virginmedias increasing obvious desperation is becoming embarrassing.

That would the box that you are supposed to return to virgin or is that a third party box you are not allowed to connect to virgins network?

Second question, how does any of this show increasing desperation. :dunce:

Look I can string disparate facts together as well.

The inability to watch recorded programmes after cancelling a channel or contract shows how Sky's increasingly obvious desperation is becoming embarrassing. They'll go to any length to keep you in contract, i mean if they let you watch after cancelling it would be a mass exodus.

J

Telly_ 28-07-2012 23:27

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35457412)
Yes



OK....

Well I just connected up a V+hd that virgin don't want to collect an nope i can't watch anything.

carlwaring 29-07-2012 09:29

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
That's because you no-longer subscribe to their paid-for service. Exactly the same as would happen if you left Sky and then tried to watch, say, Sky1 or Sky Living.

nn012 29-07-2012 10:30

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
...or record on a box I paid up to £249 for. The joy of owning a Sky+ box.

Telly_ 29-07-2012 11:10

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 35457522)
...or record on a box I paid up to £249 for. The joy of owning a Sky+ box.


If you paid £249 for a Sky box you've been robbed, they're free we'll your fist main box is free and you first multi room box is also free. An if you don't want the record feature all your following multi room boxes will be free also.

nn012 29-07-2012 11:28

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
The 1Tb box cost £249 and installation when I last compared prices.

Stuart 29-07-2012 12:05

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35457450)
Well I just connected up a V+hd that virgin don't want to collect an nope i can't watch anything.

Follow the link.

carlwaring 29-07-2012 12:10

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
To be fair, Stuart, he was meaning on the box itself :)

muppetman11 29-07-2012 13:28

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
This has turned into another pointless stupid thread , one companies pricing/package will suit some were others it wont , there's no wrong or right answer here it's personal choice. I choose Sky because with three TV's 42" or larger I want the majority of my content in HD , I have no need for super fast broadband other people are the opposite to me have no need for HD and require fast BB. Basically you can only ever choose a platform on your individual requirements , that's the beauty of choice.

carlwaring 29-07-2012 14:26

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35457570)
This has turned into...

Not at all. I think it pretty-much started-out as one :D

Hugh 29-07-2012 14:32

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 35457552)
The 1Tb box cost £249 and installation when I last compared prices.

Here are the latest prices.

http://store.virginmedia.com/digital...oxes/tivo.html

carlwaring 29-07-2012 17:34

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
He was, I think, referring to the Sky+, Hugh :)

Stuart 29-07-2012 19:43

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35457560)
Follow the link.

I was just making the point that you can still watch them, as long as you have broadband.

Hugh 29-07-2012 22:53

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35457646)
He was, I think, referring to the Sky+, Hugh :)

Aaah - thanks for the clarification.

muppetman11 29-08-2012 14:56

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
C4 Paralympic channels added to Sky EPG

nstokes 29-08-2012 15:06

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35468474)
C4 Paralympic channels added to Sky EPG

HD channel numbers are 450-452 and SD channel numbers are 453-455 making 6 channels in total

Hom3r 29-08-2012 22:03

Re: 48 Olympic channels.
 
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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35468480)
HD channel numbers are 450-452 and SD channel numbers are 453-455 making 6 channels in total

don't forget the endless adverts.


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