Not driving to work could save £1,000
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-40459482
Cycle lanes in Cardiff are "underused by commuters" but are mainly used for leisure cycling. And they are throwing money we don't have at this "problem". Hundreds of spaces for commuters to store their bikes during the working day (at a price of course) are planned, but cyclists say the spaces will be too far from their workplace. So they won't use them. Hire cycles were tried, and failed miserably at great cost to tax payers. Then they opened bus lanes to bikes, so that now means gridlock when a 5mph cyclist holds up 30mph buses. So what do the buses do? They leave the bus lanes and block the other lanes every time they stop. Parking fees were increased to push commuters onto buses. Then up went the bus fares. |
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The UK simply doesnt have the weather to make cycling to work all the while something people would do.
Who wants to be out on a bike, travelling to work, in the freezing snow & ice, or pooring rain. |
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Cycling may be beneficial to health (as long as your lungs don't get damaged by the fumes and you don't collide with a motorised vehicle) but frankly, only a minority of the population risk life and limb in this way and it clearly has done very little to ease traffic congestion. Indeed this method of conveyance is a hazard and a nuisance to vehicular traffic, forcing everyone to slow to a crawl and adding even further to traffic fumes.
I have never understood why, when the government subsidise railways with millions of pounds, they do not make more funding available for buses. If fares were a lot cheaper and buses were more convenient and frequent, this would reduce traffic congestion significantly. It's such an obvious good use of the public purse and I am surprised that the governments over the years have not done more in this area. ---------- Post added at 13:03 ---------- Previous post was at 13:02 ---------- Quote:
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They don't go from A to B. It may take several bus journeys to get from one place to another. You have to allow time gaps between each part of the journey. The list goes on. They are bad enough during off-peak hours. |
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I thought public transport would get better and relatively cheaper under privatisation..What's gone wrong?
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What we really need is proper public transport co-ordination, with bus routes tendered out, as happens in London. Fares need to be brought down, too, because many baulk at paying four quid for a return journey to their local town centre, which is more than the cost of parking your car. ---------- Post added at 17:22 ---------- Previous post was at 17:17 ---------- Quote:
What we really need is council officers working out a network of routes and then inviting bids, with subsidies given for poorly used routes. Reduction in fares is also essential if such a system is to succeed. |
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I walk more than that. I have bus pass, but use it very rarely. I haven't been on any 2 wheeled transport for decades, and certainly won't again after witnessing how 2 and 4 wheel vehicles interact these days. |
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Not driving to work would cost me far more than £1,000 a year.
My drive door to door is 25-30 mins. Via bus it would be nearer 1:30 hours, and 3 of them, plus the time they arrive at my work would mean I would arrive 20 mins before the gates opened, or 40 mins late. Plus I suffer travel sickness. |
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Cycle lanes: build them and they will come :Yes: |
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Well they built them in my town 12 years ago if i see one a month use it that's it so great use of council tax money.
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It is painfully obvious that those who "passionately believe" are a tiny minority pushing their agenda on to the rest of us. And we have to pay for their pipe dreams of course. |
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Plenty of minority groups push an agenda feeling they are the most deserving and plenty of taxpayers fund their pipe dreams, we both know that. Public money has to be used for the wider community and encouraging cycling is entirely appropriate though a less obvious benefit to those who are short-sighted. |
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Did you post your moaning when the Champions League disrupted the City, or Justin Bieber, or Robbie Williams, or the Marathon. or the Ryder Cup or any number of other disruptive events? No? Why not? How much taxpayers money was expended on policing, say, the Champions League game between two foreign teams that apparently brought very little financial benefit to the City of Cardiff? Bah. |
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This thread is about how cycling infrastructure affects the city every day, not about a rare occasion such as a concert (which usually only means the closure of one street beside the stadium, the same as for a match).
The disruption caused by the footie was extensively complained about as it went on for days and days and days over large areas of the city. The marathons close roads for limited periods, and the route means that the closed off streets can easily be avoided. But the velothon practically cuts the city in half causing pandemonium for all traffic for an entire day. And that includes transport for workers in the city. |
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An entire day? Goodness me, how utterly unbearable. Motorists:364; Cyclists:1. So, you wouldn't spend a penny on bike lanes if you were in charge eh? |
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^ WIth them.
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I am disabled so I cannot use a bike so the only option is to use a car or bus.
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Here in Reading, we do have a good bus service, and the meandering routes tend to be the non primary services. The primary routes are geared to getting people into town quickly. The new mass transit system now being developed, with bus priority and park & ride schemes will reduce the travelling times still further, encouraging more motorists to leave tneir cars outside of the town centres. The problems with bus travel that people are raising on here are the result of the lack of proper public transport co-ordination and lack of investment. The fact that we have problems now with circuitous routes, buses not going where you want them to go and being a slow means of transport are all reasons why the whole system needs to change. As for bicycles, they are a pain for motorists, but I can see why some like to use them - I had a racing bike myself when I was younger and travelled quite long distances. However, bicycles and motor vehicles really do not mix, and should be kept separate from vehicular traffic wherever possible. |
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and please don't any one tell me the family car is taxed etc that's nothing to do with cycling |
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When I need to go to Reading I use the 500 Park and Ride which is suburb and the reliability is spot on time. |
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You can't hear but you can see that you've provided me with the means to explain it to everyone else :monkey: |
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The lions share of income tax is spent on welfare. |
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spent on welfare :mad: i do enjoy paying for the lifestyle of others 60 inch tvs beer oclock all day etc etc ohh don't get me started |
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Now, back on topic: I wonder why Taf doesn't complain about bus lanes? Buses are filth emitters and they never stay in those lanes and they pass you on the inside at excessive speed. Allocating that much road space to buses, taxis and motorbikes causes more congestion than the odd 3-metre cycle lane here and there. Ah, but Taf has a bus pass so he wants that inconvenience imposed for his sporadic benefit. |
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Ah, I get it now, you moan about 'lanes' every couple of years or so? Wow.
Doesn't the use of public money on anything else bother you? |
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This thread is for complaining about bikes and cycle lanes. :D |
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**** country if you are a native English-Welsh-Scottish-British, I wonder if the person who jumped the welfare Q was a native British in desperate need.
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Secondly, cyclists DO own the roads in the same way as any other road user 'owns' the roads; Thirdly, read the thread about tax and insurance; Fourthly, Don't generalise, it makes you look stupid. |
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I don't feel safe on my bike out on the road now, the cycle lanes around here don't get used and they are in better condition that the roads (mainly as they are paths off the road), on some really busy roads I still see cyclists dice with weather when they cycle path is next to them.
I looked at taking a job that was in walking/cycling distance and was safe and was all ready to give the car up for work but it never did work out, maybe next time. |
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Cyclist shoud be like tractors. stop, pull over. and let proper road users get past.
pretend they're cars. slow bloody cars. ---------- Post added at 23:43 ---------- Previous post was at 23:35 ---------- Quote:
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Although there are some cyclists who should never be allowed out on the roads and have little regard for other users including pavements and pedestrian crossings if that is what they want to use most are careful even if annoying.
It's when they get into "packs" that the fun really starts. Whether it a group of young fools like I encountered yesterday weaving all over the road even crossing to my side cycling against my direction to the more organised groups in tighter clothing that either bunch up over the whole lane or are snaked out over some distance, both are difficult to get past. I don't care if they are training or racing, they need to be aware of other road users and if necessary pull over and wait. Yes they have a right to use the road but like all road users need to have consideration for other traffic. |
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Police helping a cyclist get into the cycle lane.....
http://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview...7524113209.mp4 |
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Me as well |
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he's not wearing a helmet so if he gets hurt he only has himself to blame
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As usual a post ridden with your own demonising smearing prejudices.. |
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The mind boggles at you sometimes my dear.:)
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smug cyclist who thinks he got away with running a red light finds out the HARD WAY why the rules of the road exist
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He played the system all along the way With a nick nack paddy whack Give it a new name Now he diddles PIP just the same. :D |
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That must have been taxing for a man of your great intellectual ability to compose that ditty so quickly today.;)
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Getting back to the main heading: Not driving to work could save you £1000, this would not cover my funeral expenses as I would not risk cycling to work with the amount of traffic on or roads. Ruddy dangerous me thinks.
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1 make them with 4 wheels 2 surround with metal box 3 add doors 4 fit power plant at front end 5 get it insured 6 get it taxed 7 pass government approved test to drive it sorted - and re exercise for kids make them walk to school . |
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Exercise won't see off obesity and diabetes, diet change will.
3 local schools had their bike sheds removed. as "maintaining them was too expensive". No-parking zones set up around all 3 schools, plus the new bane of drivers' lives... 20 mph limits. Local Primaries closed, pupils now have to travel further and further from age 4, often miles not yards. And as several primaries are now switching to "Welsh Medium Teaching" those that do not want to be educated in Welsh have to travel even further. Free bus pass for under 11's having to travel over 2 miles. Free bus pass for 11 -16's travelling over 3 miles. No bus pass for over 16's in most cases. But if you opt out of a Welsh Medium school that is within those distances, you also lose your bus pass. And to top it all, bus routes have been changing to make them unuseable for pupils. |
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Not really answer.. should make the cycles fly that way they can miss all the traffic jams and the A holes out there that should not even be on the road...
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And perhaps ban bicycles from bus lanes as they are a major cause of congestion (as are bus lanes themselves)? |
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