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Peter_ 09-12-2011 20:09

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35343292)
Just out of curiosity what's the situation going to be for vip customers. i.e. someone on vip100. Will they be eligible for the £10 reduction?

Just curious as, if I remember correctly, when things like this have happened in the past, vip customers seem not to be included.

Same up to now with the tickles. Every tickle I've read about being offered seems to be in the vip package already anyway.

Phil

As th is no official confirmation of any of this up to now I expect no one knows.

Phil-ntl 09-12-2011 20:11

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35343295)
As th is no official confirmation of any of this up to now I expect no one knows.

Ahhh. I understood it was official now. My bad.

<retreats back to the corner>

Phil

Peter_ 09-12-2011 20:16

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35343296)
Ahhh. I understood it was official now. My bad.

<retreats back to the corner>

Phil

Posters say they have had emails which I do not dispute for one second, but up to now the has been no official announcement from Virgin Media as otherwise the link would be in this thread plus I would have seen it in work.;)

dave6x 09-12-2011 20:31

Re: Speed doubling?
 
Speed doubling free? That will be great, as I currently only get 4-5Mb most evenings on a 10Mb service then I will hopefully get 10Mb on a 20Mb service!!!!

Maybe I should go to the competition. For £16.49/mth my neighbour gets 37Mb download and 2Mb upload on Plusnet Fibre Basic whatever time of day he does the checks and YouTube actually streams without stalling, something I rarely get on VM! It does have a 40GB monthly limit plus unlimited download midnight to 8am but I could live with that.

kwikbreaks 09-12-2011 22:47

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by dave6x (Post 35343308)
Speed doubling free? That will be great, as I currently only get 4-5Mb most evenings on a 10Mb service then I will hopefully get 10Mb on a 20Mb service!!!!

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Your speed will vary between what the congestion allows and your config maximum. If it stays around 4-5Mbps all night now then it will do the same whatever your config might say. Swapping to a DOCSIS 3 product (currently 30Mbps and up) might be better but there is not even any guarantee then either.

dave6x 09-12-2011 23:36

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35343365)
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Your speed will vary between what the congestion allows and your config maximum. If it stays around 4-5Mbps all night now then it will do the same whatever your config might say. Swapping to a DOCSIS 3 product (currently 30Mbps and up) might be better but there is not even any guarantee then either.

Thanks for the reply, it was a rather tongue-in-cheek comment as I am aware of the congestion issues! I used to have a rock solid 10Mb service until 2-3 years ago, but that has been deteriorating as they have oversold the product and under-invested in the infrastructure so it is no longer deliverable!

kwikbreaks 10-12-2011 08:58

Re: Speed doubling?
 
I wasn't sure if it was tongue in cheek or not so I thought I'd spell it out.

My 50Mbps was fine but went down the tubes very quickly so I downgraded to 10Mbps - I thought I'd go onto DOCSIS1 which may or may not be OK around here but that's not how it works either so now I'm on 10Mbps but still see upstream congestion and terrible jitter. I imagine that if these upgrades go ahead without some other changes (draconian traffic management or actually shelling out for a network upgrade) the only thing I'll see increasing is the jitter.

Peter_ 10-12-2011 09:28

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35343417)
I wasn't sure if it was tongue in cheek or not so I thought I'd spell it out.

My 50Mbps was fine but went down the tubes very quickly so I downgraded to 10Mbps - I thought I'd go onto DOCSIS1 which may or may not be OK around here but that's not how it works either so now I'm on 10Mbps but still see upstream congestion and terrible jitter. I imagine that if these upgrades go ahead without some other changes (draconian traffic management or actually shelling out for a network upgrade) the only thing I'll see increasing is the jitter.

If you have a Docsis 3 modem then you will not go onto a Docsis 1 CMTS as it will not work.

kwikbreaks 10-12-2011 13:52

Re: Speed doubling?
 
Yes I know - as I already said I thought it would but now know that it doesn't work like that so I'm stuck on VM's oversubscribed DOCSIS3 network for now which will doubtless be getting worse still if Ignition's pronouncement turns out to be correct.

AndyCalling 10-12-2011 22:49

Re: Speed doubling?
 
Here's the big question:

I have 50meg now with a Shub and I've not got any tickle emails. My area already has 100meg services according to the postcode checker. Do we know when the 100meg upgrades for the untickled are to happen yet?

Only slightly smaller question:

I upgraded to 50meg to drop downstream STM before Youview came out. If the 100meg product is to be STMed, can I assume it would not drop below 50meg down 5meg up when STMed so effectively I've not lost out compared to the 50meg product of today?

morley04 10-12-2011 23:03

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling (Post 35343657)
Here's the big question:

Do we know when the 100meg upgrades for the untickled are to happen yet

Not any time soon

AndyCalling 10-12-2011 23:28

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by morley04 (Post 35343659)
Not any time soon

Ah, perhaps before the Olympics is a good guess then?

Sounds like the STM will be upstream only, so no big issue with Youview.

morley04 11-12-2011 00:59

Re: Speed doubling?
 
As far as I can work out 50mb is moving upto 60mb but dont quote me on that.

General Maximus 11-12-2011 08:50

Re: Speed doubling?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyCalling (Post 35343657)
If the 100meg product is to be STMed, can I assume it would not drop below 50meg

I thought stm whipped ~75% off your connection? 50mbit always went down to 12.5mbit/1.75 so I would have thought 100mbit would be 25mbit/2.5.

I don't mind the 2.5mbit up but dropping from 100 down to 25 downstream is a bit steep so hopefully they'll do something about that. I think Ignitionet has mentioned something about a more progressive throttling system the more you hammer your connection rather than an outright smack down.

Chrysalis 11-12-2011 10:31

Re: Speed doubling?
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35343427)
If you have a Docsis 3 modem then you will not go onto a Docsis 1 CMTS as it will not work.

modems are backwards compatible, it would work, its just VM choose to not operate that way.


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