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denphone 26-10-2017 17:22

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921951)
Why exactly do you think the 2018 World Cup will not be shown in 4k in the UK, given the information I have provided? I agree it's not certain that we will get it, but saying there's no prospect of it happening ignores the fact that the beeb have already completed trials on their player.

Personally l cannot see UHD channels happening on the terrestrial channels.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921957)
But if an opinion is to be taken seriously, should not a reason for the opinion be given?

l think you overplay and use too much hyperbole on issues like streaming taking over from Linear TV and of Linear TV disappearing , UHD and how the sports rights market will play out as l have not seen anything to suggest that what you state in your future world is actually happening IMO.

Dave42 26-10-2017 17:49

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921940)
It isn't, Dave. The problem is, it's not a fact. It's your view, that is all.

It is a fact, however, that the BBC have been trialling UHD broadcasting through the i-Player. Given that, I am saying that if there is going to be a World Cup feed, the Beeb are equipped to bring this to the UK audience.

I don't really understand why you are having doubts about this. Please explain.

then tell us where UHD BBC and ITV channels are OB you cant they don't exist FACT

OLD BOY 26-10-2017 18:04

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35921965)
then tell us where UHD BBC and ITV channels are OB you cant they don't exist FACT

Once again, if UHD comes to the BBC in time for the World Cup, it will be through the BBC i-Player.

Clearly, the ability to do so is there because trials have already taken place.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35921958)
Personally l cannot see UHD channels happening on the terrestrial channels.

I said it would appear on the i-Player. Why do you and Dave keep referring to the broadcast channels? I have not said that such a channel will appear soon.

Dave42 26-10-2017 18:15

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921969)
Once again, if UHD comes to the BBC in time for the World Cup, it will be through the BBC i-Player.

Clearly, the ability to do so is there because trials have already taken place.

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I said it would appear on the i-Player. Why do you and Dave keep referring to the broadcast channels? I have not said that such a channel will appear soon.

why you keep saying it not a FACT when even you know it is there UHD channels don't exist

OLD BOY 26-10-2017 22:22

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35921975)
why you keep saying it not a FACT when even you know it is there UHD channels don't exist

I think you should actually read my posts before responding, Dave. You keep repeating questions I've already answered.

You aren't a robot, are you? :shrug:

Dave42 26-10-2017 23:21

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921998)
I think you should actually read my posts before responding, Dave. You keep repeating questions I've already answered.

You aren't a robot, are you? :shrug:

and you should read my post OB I stated a FACT bbc and itv don't have UHD channels you kept saying it not a fact when it clearly is

Mad Max 27-10-2017 00:00

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35922009)
and you should read my post OB I stated a FACT bbc and itv don't have UHD channels you kept saying it not a fact when it clearly is


Ok, but do you agree with OB that the BBC have the ability to transmit UHD content through the i-Player?

Dave42 27-10-2017 00:15

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922019)
Ok, but do you agree with OB that the BBC have the ability to transmit UHD content through the i-Player?

I never said it didn't have the ability to do that will it we have to wait and see on that

OLD BOY 27-10-2017 09:03

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35921844)
since bbc or itv don't have UHD and unlikely too by June no

Actually, Dave, this is the post that you originally put on here. You went on to argue that this was a fact.

It is certainly a fact that broadcast UHD channels do not currently exist. No argument about that.

But are you seriously basing your argument on there never being UHD channels in the future? That is, because there are no such channels now, there never will be?

In any case, I have explained to you a few times that the BBC i-Player has already demonstrated its capability to provide us with UHD pictures - I've seen the video myself on my Sony UHD TV, and it was excellent quality.

Given that the feed will be provided by FIFA, this makes the Beeb's job an awful lot easier. This is an excellent opportunity for the BBC to make their mark in the UHD world. It would certainly be a national embarrassment if other European countries were able to bring the World Cup to their citizens and the 'once mighty' UK could not.

I see absolutely no reason for the BBC not rising to this challenge. Why do you not see it this way?

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35922021)
I never said it didn't have the ability to do that will it we have to wait and see on that

Well, that clears that up, then. :rolleyes:

Dave42 27-10-2017 10:43

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
the first post I didn't say fact OB the post I said fact on was there no UHD channels of course in time there will be UHD channels but long way off yet

denphone 27-10-2017 10:45

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35922045)
the first post I didn't say fact OB the post I said fact on was there no UHD channels of course in time there will be UHD channels but long way off yet

A very long way off Dave.

Dave42 27-10-2017 10:48

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922046)
A very long way off Dave.

Exactly Den bbc and ITV haven't even got all regional programs in HD yet never mind UHD

OLD BOY 27-10-2017 11:02

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35922045)
the first post I didn't say fact OB the post I said fact on was there no UHD channels of course in time there will be UHD channels but long way off yet

Well, the important point is we have established that the 'fact' you were referring to related to the current lack of any UHD channels.

The thing you never made clear was why you thought it extremely unlikely that the World Cup would be screened in UHD on the BBC i-Player, which was my actual point. I guess we are not going to get any further on that. Not long before we have the answer, I guess.

denphone 27-10-2017 11:26

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35922047)
Exactly Den bbc and ITV haven't even got all regional programs in HD yet never mind UHD

And how many more years is it going to take for them to do that Dave as the BBC have had their money cut for quite a while now thus things get delayed or even shelved sadly.

OLD BOY 27-10-2017 11:40

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922057)
And how many more years is it going to take for them to do that Dave as the BBC have had their money cut for quite a while now thus things get delayed or even shelved sadly.

This is nothing to do with HD for the regions. This is about UHD nationally, which we have seen has been trialled already on the i-Player.

However, if you want to talk about the lack of HD in the regions, that's fine by me, but it's not really in keeping with this thread.


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