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1andrew1 25-03-2017 18:46

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35891698)
HBO Nordic is a perfect example of this that one includes other networks too such as Showtime, Amc etc.

Not impossible...but not easy.
Trouble is, they're all licensed to Sky or BT and have different renewal dates.

OLD BOY 25-03-2017 18:58

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35891698)
HBO Nordic is a perfect example of this that one includes other networks too such as Showtime, Amc etc.

Hopefully, something like this will show up in the UK before long. Ultimately, I hope that we will have much better availability of services that is the norm in the US so that there is rather less of a divide between us.

As we become more global in our outlook, this may ultimately wrong foot Sky with their obsession in respect to exclusivity of content. I don't have any problem with exclusivity of first run rights, but the contract they have currently with HBO is just plain wrong. How long has Game of Thrones been locked into Sky satellite subscribers only? It's just not right.

No wonder there is a piracy problem!

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35891700)
Not impossible...but not easy.
Trouble is, they're all licensed to Sky or BT and have different renewal dates.

It is very easy. HBO enter into a contract for first run rights only. Even first and second is acceptable. As long as there are good time constaints. I wouldn't mind at all if I had to wait for 12 months, but after that, it starts to become unreasonable, in my view.

muppetman11 25-03-2017 19:13

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
Game of Thrones isn't locked into Sky satellite subscribers it's available to anyone with a 2mb or greater internet connection on Now TV.

OLD BOY 25-03-2017 19:42

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35891703)
Game of Thrones isn't locked into Sky satellite subscribers it's available to anyone with a 2mb or greater internet connection on Now TV.

H'mm, yes, owned by Sky, of course. :rolleyes:

It still means that other subscribers to digital platforms have to pay more for this content.

muppetman11 25-03-2017 20:14

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35891705)
H'mm, yes, owned by Sky, of course. :rolleyes:

It still means that other subscribers to digital platforms have to pay more for this content.

If I want AMC I have to subscribe to a BT package what's the difference.

passingbat 25-03-2017 21:16

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35891698)
HBO Nordic is a perfect example of this that one includes other networks too such as Showtime, Amc etc.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35891701)
Hopefully, something like this will show up in the UK before long..


No chance in my view. The closest is Now TV which has HBO and Showtime content.

OLD BOY 25-03-2017 23:26

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35891711)
If I want AMC I have to subscribe to a BT package what's the difference.

You are talking about a channel. I'm talking about content.

The first series of Fear the Walking Dead was exclusive to the AMC channel, but after it had been shown, this was made available on Amazon Prime free of charge.

In my view, that is acceptable practice. All I'm saying is that exclusivity should not apply beyond a period of 1 or 2 years.

1andrew1 13-04-2017 11:37

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
Live TV still the future according to Freeview boss. (Yes, I know, he would say that. etc)

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“We should be less willing as an industry to adopt the Silicon Valley view of the world based on flimsy evidence and half-truths. We should be wary of big claims when coupled with a lack of transparency over audience figures and instead focus on real world evidence of what viewers are actually doing.”

Thompson suggested that even the much talked about millennials, who have fully embraced the on demand world were still watching more live TV than anything else.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...n-valley-view/

OLD BOY 13-04-2017 13:34

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894505)
Live TV still the future according to Freeview boss. (Yes, I know, he would say that. etc)


http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...n-valley-view/

Given that many of our digital channels attract less than 2% of the viewing audience at the best of times, many must be uncomfortably close to the edge of viability. I think that the number of these channels still broadcasting in 10 years' time will have diminished substantially due to their audiences reducing still further at the hands of on line viewing.

What happens thereafter is the big question. You know my views on this, but it is probably fair to say that the big five digital terrestrial channels will survive longest, and maybe the Sky and BT sports channels.

I do not know what they might pull out of the hat to keep people viewing conventially, but it will have to be good.

I don't doubt for one minute that there are plenty of people out there who don't want change, but the question is whether there are enough of them to make it worthwhile to continue broadcasting our linear TV channels as streaming becomes more mainstream and the diehards become increasingly outnumbered by the millenials.

OLD BOY 18-04-2017 08:36

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Here is proof, if it's needed, that sport can be delivered via streaming and not just through conventional linear channels.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...gium-ott-only/

passingbat 18-04-2017 09:09

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895210)
Here is proof, if it's needed, that sport can be delivered via streaming and not just through conventional linear channels.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...gium-ott-only/


Now TV have been offering a streamed sports package for quite while; over a year probably.

1andrew1 18-04-2017 09:13

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35895212)
Now TV have been offering a streamed sports package for quite while; over a year probably.

Agreed. Time flies - Now TV has offered sport for four years launching it in March 2013.
I guess Old Boy might mean "exclusively through OTT channels" though.

OLD BOY 18-04-2017 09:26

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35895214)
Agreed. Time flies - Now TV has offered sport for four years launching it in March 2013.
I guess Old Boy might mean "exclusively through OTT channels" though.

Yes, I did; sorry for not making that clear, I was multi-tasking at the time I wrote that!

passingbat 18-04-2017 12:12

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35895214)
Agreed. Time flies - Now TV has offered sport for four years launching it in March 2013.
I guess Old Boy might mean "exclusively through OTT channels" though.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895215)
Yes, I did; sorry for not making that clear, I was multi-tasking at the time I wrote that!


Not sure "exclusively through OTT channels" is relevant; the issue is whether it is streamable without a pay TV subscription via monthly subscription on a variety of devices. If the same service is also available via pay TV service, who cares?

theone2k10 18-04-2017 12:15

Re: The future for linear TV channels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35895210)
Here is proof, if it's needed, that sport can be delivered via streaming and not just through conventional linear channels.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/...gium-ott-only/

Nowtv, btsports, nbcsports, foxsports, Eurosport have been delivering sports via streaming for ages.


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