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What concessions did they make to appease the 'pathetic' democrats? Most of the concessions were made to the Freedom Caucus who wanted further cuts and each of those alienated moderate Republicans worried about blowback in their own states. Blaming the Democrats seems a weak excuse when, as you say, the Republicans have a majority. Not only that but a pretty comfortable majority, they could have afford 20 defections from the Republican side and still pass this bill.

What they're learning is that healthcare is complicated. Clinton tried and failed, Obama got Obamacare passed but it derailed the Democratic party and now Trump has failed too.

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The issue with Trump is that he is meant to be the "challenger", the "outsider". He now just looks like any other shabby politician who fails to keep his promises.

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So, you're one of the perfect ones then. Good to know ;)


Your analogy is crazy, BTW.

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No, it is some Republicans wanted a completely free market, and minimal government funding.

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This is true.

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I think if Trump had been more honest and said he promised reform but couldn't deliver it quickly due to so many conflicting interests I would have been more sympathetic. But to try and pretend that his previous statements were not made undermines him in my eyes.

If I made a mistake in a new job I would admit to it and not try and blame someone else. A Japanese Prime Minister would probably have resigned in shame. I acknowledge what I, as a British person would do, isn't necessary what an American would do.

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Everything undermines Trump in your eyes, so no surprise there Andrew ;)

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He's his own worst enemy, or maybe in some people's rose-tinted eyes, a flawed genius. ;)

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No, come on Andrew, Hari-Kari at least!

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You don't make mistakes like Trump has since he got elected and just brush it off because he's new at the job .In Trumps position he cannot afford too many mistakes like that and anyway according to him he hasn't made any mistakes or got anything wrong everything is the fault of the Democrats, fake news or Muslims

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That's funny cos Trump said it was the fault of the Democrats ,is that another one of his 'mistakes' because he's new to the job?

Everyone knows it was his own parties fault apart from Trump (and Mick) who are determined to blame the 'pathetic Democrats'

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Nonsense, as already said, he has not failed, congress failed him.

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As a previous President said 'the buck stops here'..

He's the President, he's responsible - if he isn't, what's the point of his job?

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I've said on a couple of occasions that Trump is an egotist. That works for and against him at different times.


The point is, he put forward policies that in my view are essential in the times we are currently living in. Where Political Correctness is blinding so many peoples' common sense thought process, Islamic terrorism is real, therefore border security is essential. Traditional moral values are being trashed and globalism, which has left so many people behind, and threatens the national sovereignty of individual countries has only temporarily been halted. Wars are far from over, so building up the military, makes good sense.


Let's hope he learns from healthcare bill. In general, he's fighting the right wing Republicans on one side, who in my view are not interested in a fair society and the Democrat members with liberal values, who hate him so much because of the policies I outlined above, and won't support him out of principle, on the other side.

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Oh isn't it very fitting now to say this. But when it comes to issuing executive orders, we've had comments from the likes of you and others saying he is not a dictator blah blah. Completely and utterly laughable. :rolleyes:

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He and congress failed. Congress isn't there to do his bidding, it's another branch of government. Trump is turning into a cult figure here, he can never fail only be failed.

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I get this but I find it utterly ridiculous that people are making wild accusations of him telling lies during the campaigns.

You know as much as I, the President cannot change such laws on a whim, that is down to congress, congress makes and changes laws, the President is there to approve them or reject them, he has tried to get a replacement for HC but as you have said and I agree, it is very complex but to solely blame Trump because it's Trump, is just wrong, at least in some part you are not appearing to just blame Trump, but others here just are gunning for Trump all the time and it is pathetic.

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No more pathetic than refusing to admit when he has failed or refusing to admit when he is shown to be a liar .The excuses that you and some others on here come up with to excuse his buffoonery are quite simply staggering and really quite amusing.