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TheDaddy 02-06-2017 00:56
Re: June 8th General Election
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901412)
I've made nothing up, regarding what you have said. Last week you said you're not defending IRAbour, yet here you are, doing exactly that.

There is a massive difference between Abbott and Hammond.

Hammond made one slip up, also is not racist and more importantly has not had any previous affiliation with or supported the IRA or wanted Britain to be defeated by them.
Yes you were, you said I was defending corbyn when I was actually criticising the Conservatives, you said I posted that having corbyn as pm was a fair trade for getting rid of Scotland and Wales when I didn't, I said it was a shame to lose Gibraltar, Northern Ireland and the Falklands but if it meant saying good bye to Wales and Scotland it would be a fair trade, you said I'd claimed all the stories about him and the IRA were fabrication when I hadn't, I'd actually said I knew 2 of the stories were made up including one about him helping an IRA bomber on the run evade capture when the actual truth was he'd phoned the police.

Hammond is the chancellor, the guy in charge of the cash, if anyone should be expected to get the figures right it's him and if anything he should've learnt from Abbott's mistake not copied it, in fact both of them and all other politicians should've learnt from caroline lucas and her car crash house building interview a couple of years back.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35901426)

She should have gone to lastnights debate when Corbyn did a U-Turn and decided to go and she should have not sent Amber Rudd, when only two days earlier, her father died.
Corbyn played a blinder saying he'd attend at the last minute then failed to capitalise on it imo, it was almost as if they agreed to him going and then forgot to brief him

denphone 02-06-2017 05:24
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35901414)
May pulled out of Woman's Hour today, the same show that gave Corbyn the hard time over not knowing the costings of one of his policies.

I know it's all political calculation, she doesn't need to do it so why risk it? But it's becoming very grating how little she will do it. I think it's a bit hypocritical to have a go at Corbyn for his mistake, and that was a poor performance from him, but not do it yourself. I also think it undermines the whole strong and stable image and that she will stick it to the EU when she ducks all these interviews and debates.

Her excuse is rather pathetic too. That she is focused on Brexit. She was the one who called the election! To call an election then act as if it's beneath you, or a act of frivolity, to campaign for votes is so contemptuous of the electorate. She is lucky her opposition is Corbyn.
She called the election to get 5 more years and used Brexit which every man , woman and his dog know is happening as the reason for calling it.

Frankly that was utter bollocks IMO but the servile sycophantic media won't be peddling that line though as they are just as contemptuous as the politicians running this country as well.

Maggy 02-06-2017 08:31
Re: June 8th General Election
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35901414)
May pulled out of Woman's Hour today, the same show that gave Corbyn the hard time over not knowing the costings of one of his policies.

I know it's all political calculation, she doesn't need to do it so why risk it? But it's becoming very grating how little she will do it. I think it's a bit hypocritical to have a go at Corbyn for his mistake, and that was a poor performance from him, but not do it yourself. I also think it undermines the whole strong and stable image and that she will stick it to the EU when she ducks all these interviews and debates.

Her excuse is rather pathetic too. That she is focused on Brexit. She was the one who called the election! To call an election then act as if it's beneath you, or a act of frivolity, to campaign for votes is so contemptuous of the electorate. She is lucky her opposition is Corbyn.
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passingbat 02-06-2017 08:35
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35901439)
and used Brexit which every man , woman and his dog know is happening as the reason for calling it.

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It is not that simple, and you know that. it's what kind of Brexit we get; hard or soft. There is more chance of a hard Brexit with May. In negotiations you have to be prepared to walk away to get the best deal. We know that the EU need to make a deal, given that they sell so much to the UK. Therefore, they will not want us to walk away.

Maggy 02-06-2017 08:37
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35901444)
It is not that simple, and you know that. it's what kind of Brexit we get; hard or soft. There is more chance of a hard Brexit with May. In negotiations you have to be prepared to walk away to get the best deal. We know that the EU need to make a deal, given that they sell so much to the UK. Therefore, they will not want us to walk away.
Oh! Whatever happened to "Brexit means Brexit"?

passingbat 02-06-2017 09:00
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35901445)
Oh! Whatever happened to "Brexit means Brexit"?

That is what May wants to achieve. That was spelled out in her Brexit speech in January.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7531361.html

Mr K 02-06-2017 09:08
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35901447)
That is what May wants to achieve. That was spelled out in her Brexit speech in January.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7531361.html
January is a long time ago for Theresa, she changes her mind by the day. She's already changed her mind on Brexit, she thought it was a a terrible idea before the referendum. Lots of time for her to change her mind again ....

Dave42 02-06-2017 10:36
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Tory candidate Craig Mackinlay has been charged after an investigation into 2015 election expenses, Crown Prosecution Service says

Damien 02-06-2017 10:39
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35901450)
Sky News‏
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Tory candidate Craig Mackinlay has been charged after an investigation into 2015 election expenses, Crown Prosecution Service says
Poor timing from the CPS IMO. It's too late for another candidate to be fielded so the Tory candidate in South Thanet will go into the election next week awaiting a court case.

Dave42 02-06-2017 10:40
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35901451)
Poor timing from the CPS IMO. It's too late for another candidate to be fielded so the Tory candidate in South Thanet will go into the election next week awaiting a court case.
surely timing will be prompted by the evidence gathered

BenMcr 02-06-2017 10:42
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CPS are in a bit of a rock / hard place situation though.

If they waited until after the election, then they would have been accused of delaying it for political reasons.

Damien 02-06-2017 10:43
Re: June 8th General Election
 
Ideally they would have done it weeks ago but yes no timing is perfect.

denphone 02-06-2017 10:57
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35901453)
CPS are in a bit of a rock / hard place situation though.

If they waited until after the election, then they would have been accused of delaying it for political reasons.
They are damned if they do and damned if they don't to be perfectly honest.

Hugh 02-06-2017 10:57
Re: June 8th General Election
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35901450)
Sky News‏
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Tory candidate Craig Mackinlay has been charged after an investigation into 2015 election expenses, Crown Prosecution Service says
I bet Nigel is regretting not standing in South Thanet again....

Update

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-40129826
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Craig Mackinlay, 50, his agent Nathan Gray, 28, and Marion Little a party activist, 62, have each been charged with offences under the Representation of the People Act 1983 and are due to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on 4 July 2017.

Nick Vamos, CPS head of special crime, said: "On 18 April we received a file of evidence from Kent Police concerning allegations relating to Conservative Party expenditure during the 2015 General Election campaign. We then asked for additional enquiries to be made in advance of the 11 June statutory time limit by when any charges needed to be authorised.

"Those enquiries have now been completed and we have considered the evidence in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors.

"We have concluded there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest to authorise charges against three people."

Mick 02-06-2017 11:35
Re: June 8th General Election
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35901448)
January is a long time ago for Theresa, she changes her mind by the day. She's already changed her mind on Brexit, she thought it was a a terrible idea before the referendum. Lots of time for her to change her mind again ....
You're always being one sided Mr K. i.e. not telling the whole story or just telling a part that suits your negative agenda.

JeIRAmy has changed his mind several times. He did a U-Turn on the debate the other night by saying he would now go. He has changed his mind and now wants to leave single market which will end free movement of people. It's also being said he would do a deal with SNP to form a coalition in the event of a hung parliament.

Lots of people think he will ditch Trident if he was to win. Thornberry has said in a tv interview recently that Trident could still be placed under review. That did not go down well with Jezza.

But deary deary me, all these promises, to buy votes. IRAbour will not be able to afford but he will plough us in to a recession either way. Because if he wins, companies are being hit with a double whammy, increases in Corporation Tax and being forced to pay workers £10 an hour.


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