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denphone 22-12-2016 11:48

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35877199)

Oh l don't know Mr K as the best example of that would be your good self old boy.;):D

papa smurf 22-12-2016 12:03

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35877199)

how can there be sand to bury heads in when sea levels have allegedly risen so much ;)

that looks more like a remoaner conference .

OhReally 22-12-2016 23:57

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Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35877110)
No, demonstrably false as in

1. Look at their predictions
2. Look at what actually happened

That was easy wasn't it.

No reply from the "warmists"?

Obviously not, as all the dire predictions for the humongous increases in global temperature, SIMPLY HAVEN'T HAPPENED.

Mr K 23-12-2016 05:32

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Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35877304)
No reply from the "warmists"?

Obviously not, as all the dire predictions for the humongous increases in global temperature, SIMPLY HAVEN'T HAPPENED.

Difficult to know how much evidence some want. They cling to the 'evidence' sponsored by those with vested interests for some reason.

https://royalsociety.org/topics-poli...idence-causes/

Even if you don't believe scientists, unless the laws of physics have changed, the rapidly disappearing Artic ice should be a clue. Or the increasing regularity of extreme weather events. Another storm on the way today..

BTW I suspect the earth is flat too. Stands to reason. This round theory is a massive lefty conspiracy...

OLD BOY 23-12-2016 10:46

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35877313)
Difficult to know how much evidence some want. They cling to the 'evidence' sponsored by those with vested interests for some reason.

https://royalsociety.org/topics-poli...idence-causes/

Even if you don't believe scientists, unless the laws of physics have changed, the rapidly disappearing Artic ice should be a clue. Or the increasing regularity of extreme weather events. Another storm on the way today..

BTW I suspect the earth is flat too. Stands to reason. This round theory is a massive lefty conspiracy...

You and other warmists continue to ignore the central question that I posed. It is quite simple. If the amount of carbon absorbed into the atmosphere remains at normal levels (between 0.03% and 0.05% of the atmosphere) - and we are currently at 0.04% in case you weren't paying attention - then where is the link with man's activity?

Why do you continue to spout the mantra without looking at all the facts for yourself? That one statistic - 0.04% - blows the 'man made climate change' theory out of the water.

Mr K 23-12-2016 10:59

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Look at the temperature and CO2 since the industrial revolution OLD BOY, spot anything ?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/12/3.jpg

Its tricky, might be one for Sherlock....

OLD BOY 23-12-2016 11:14

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35877363)
Look at the temperature and CO2 since the industrial revolution OLD BOY, spot anything ?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/12/3.jpg

Its tricky, might be one for Sherlock....

Yes, the warmists much prefer to use PPMs (parts per million) because it makes very small fluctuations look much bigger. We are currently well within parameters and therefore NOT responsible for any temperature changes globally that MAY occur.

It will be interesting to hear what the climate guys say when the little blip on the carbon readings take a downward turn. I expect they will find a way to claim credit for that!

papa smurf 23-12-2016 11:15

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The continuing rapid increase in carbon dioxide concentrations during the past 10-15 years has apparently been unable to overrule the °attening of the temperature trend as a result of the Sun settling at a high, but no longer increasing, level of magnetic activity. Contrary to the argument of Lockwood and FrÄohlich, the Sun still appears to be the main forcing agent in global climate change.

http://www.populartechnology.net/200...s-climate.html

OLD BOY 23-12-2016 11:25

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35877368)
The continuing rapid increase in carbon dioxide concentrations during the past 10-15 years has apparently been unable to overrule the °attening of the temperature trend as a result of the Sun settling at a high, but no longer increasing, level of magnetic activity. Contrary to the argument of Lockwood and FrÄohlich, the Sun still appears to be the main forcing agent in global climate change.

http://www.populartechnology.net/200...s-climate.html

Just to clarify, though, for those not really paying attention, there has been no 'rapid increase in carbon dioxide' as claimed. We are well within normal parameters.

If warming is actually taking place then solar energy levels are a much more likely explanation.

OhReally 23-12-2016 16:22

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35877363)
Look at the temperature and CO2 since the industrial revolution OLD BOY, spot anything ?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/12/5.gif

Its tricky, might be one for Sherlock....

Here's a much better graph, perfectly demonstrating the total FAIL that is the global warming hoax.

For those who have difficulty comprehending facts, the dots along the bottom are the ACTUAL temperatures as observed, the crap above them are the forecasts by the doom-mongers.

Nuff said.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/12/1.png

Mr K 23-12-2016 16:47

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The graph looks a bit a mess to me ! A very short time period compared to the 150 year one above, and its still showing a rise. There are others saying warming is happening faster than ever predicted... Worryingly its at the poles where the temp. increases are greatest.

However, even if you believe non of this, believe the evidence of your own eyes. Are extreme weather events becoming more regular e.g. flooding/storms? Snow becoming less common?

I can understand those with vested interests dissing climate change. However there seems to utter denial from others who need to swallow their pride and admit they are wrong, and that we desperately need to do something radical soon.

OLD BOY 23-12-2016 17:06

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35877429)
The graph looks a bit a mess to me ! A very short time period compared to the 150 year one above, and its still showing a rise. There are others saying warming is happening faster than ever predicted... Worryingly its at the poles where the temp. increases are greatest.

However, even if you believe non of this, believe the evidence of your own eyes. Are extreme weather events becoming more regular e.g. flooding/storms? Snow becoming less common?

I can understand those with vested interests dissing climate change. However there seems to utter denial from others who need to swallow their pride and admit they are wrong, and that we desperately need to do something radical soon.

Well, Mr K, I notice you still haven't explained why it's our fault, given that carbon absorption is well within the normal variable parameters.

The fact that you didn't comprehend that graph speaks volumes.

richard s 23-12-2016 17:22

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I would like to wish our Scottish friends a safe couple of days with two storms hitting you. May your Christmas not be disrupted.

OLD BOY 23-12-2016 17:27

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35877434)
I would like to wish our Scottish friends a safe couple of days with two storms hitting you. May your Christmas not be disrupted.

We would all hope that people in the north are safe, but don't forget that storms have battered this part of the UK at this time of year since forever! Nothing to do with the alleged global warming.

Mr K 23-12-2016 17:51

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35877433)
Well, Mr K, I notice you still haven't explained why it's our fault, given that carbon absorption is well within the normal variable parameters.

The fact that you didn't comprehend that graph speaks volumes.

Its CO2 levels and the undeniable increases in temperature you need to be looking at OLD BOY..... Carbon absorption within whose parameters for what? Its obviously not an effective measure of climate change.
What evidence would you accept, when the water comes through the door, or when it gets to the ceiling might you think something was up?

Guess we'll have to disagree but its by far and away the biggest threat facing us. Forget trivialities like Trump, Brexit, immigration etc. All those we can do something about. Its getting to the point, or maybe already past it, where where we can do anything about the climate. However we should try.


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