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Damien 06-11-2016 11:04

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35867949)
I cant seem to get my head around how the voting system works over there compared to ours.
Do people have to register an affiliation to a party when they register to vote?

No they don't. But they do need it in many states to vote in the primaries. So if you want to vote for the Democratic nominee then you have to register as a Democrat. Some states allow people to vote in either to Democratic or Republican contest at the time of voting though, so you don't need to declare an affiliation.

Don't forget America is highly politically. The Presidential race is the tip of a very big iceberg. They vote for all sorts of things down to local district representation.

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Deadspin have intercut the video of Obama dealing with the protestor at the rally the other day with Trump's version of what happened: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/did...did-1788612955 :disturbd:

martyh 06-11-2016 11:11

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35867961)

Only the same at Hillary rallies. People try grabbing signs from Protesters etc.

It's a horrible hate filled campaign that does America a great disservice Trump is running for all the wrong reasons and Hillary is a career politician who admittedly knows how to play the political game but America needs and wants something different than the usual political games

Hom3r 06-11-2016 12:06

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35867919)
What was the Army doing there ?

I know there has been some intelligence to suggest their could be a Terrorist attack around Election day, but did not think they would do this at rallies, unless the threat is substantial.

Any way, that cop in that pic, the one in the middle to the left of the protester, looks like Jason Bourne (Matt Damon). What you think ?

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Oh dear, how embarrassing for Crooked Hillary. College Student calls out Hillary at her own, 'small' rally attended by Bernie Sanders and gets applauded and then removed by security.



There heavily armed cops.

IMHO it all show.


Plus Trump lied again, "Nothings going to stop us" as he came back after stopping over a man holding a sign :D


I'm despairing over Trump, Joey Essex would do a better job

Mr K 06-11-2016 12:29

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35867961)
They go through screening, I already said that ! :dunce:

But I wouldn't expect anything less from you and your narrow-minded view just to distort the facts, after all, you're no better when you call people thick/stupid, who vote opposite to you! :dozey:[COLOR="Silver"]
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Nice to see a good nights sleep has mellowed you Michael ! Trying to defend Trump and his red neck supporters must be causing sleepless nights ;)

None of us will get much sleep if he's elected. Looking at him last might, maybe even he is having second thoughts.

Hom3r 06-11-2016 13:53

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I'm despairing over Trump, Joey Essex would do a better job

Mick 06-11-2016 15:03

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35867983)
Nice to see a good nights sleep has mellowed you Michael ! Trying to defend Trump and his red neck supporters must be causing sleepless nights ;)

None of us will get much sleep if he's elected. Looking at him last might, maybe even he is having second thoughts.

I work nights, so my sleeping patterns are non-existent, none of your concern or business really and it's Mick btw.

He is not having seconds thoughts, shows how much you know and you have the audacity, to suggest other people are thick or stupid ?

You won't get much sleep with crooked Hillary, with her posturing with Russia and bad judgement regarding her polices on Syria and Libya, the World really would be in trouble with her as President, that's if she don't get indicted and impeached first.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35867963)
One slight, but important, difference - she doesn't offer to pay legal fees if they beat up protestors, or say things at rallies like '“I’d like to punch him in the face, I’ll tell you.”'

Bit like Vice President, Joe Biden, saying he'd like to take Donald behind the gym...

Also... Just a little reminder about the DNC being caught on tape inciting violence at Trump rallies. Neither candidate can take the moral high ground here and neither can you.

Damien 06-11-2016 18:03

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Hispanic voters look set to break records: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bb4_story.html

Someone on Politico also said that Trump has stopped internal polling which would be weird. If he loses the books about the campaign will be amazing. Especially if it's true that he won't accept negative polling.

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Why the election is close: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/up...in-common.html

Mr K 06-11-2016 19:14

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35868014)
I work nights, so my sleeping patterns are non-existent, none of your concern or business really and it's Mick btw.

He is not having seconds thoughts, shows how much you know and you have the audacity, to suggest other people are thick or stupid ?

Ah nights, that explains a lot.

Trump certainly seemed to have second thoughts after someone shouted 'gun' last night. He had to off the stage to change his trousers (as would we all !) Maybe he'll now consider the repercussions of stirring up so much hatred from all quarters.

As for thick/stupid - don't recall being that blunt, but it's difficult to understand how anyone with any sense right or left, could vote for him. It seems a lot of the more informed/credible Republicans can't. Damiens link does suggest his support is coming from the less educated vote.

adzii_nufc 06-11-2016 19:37

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One gunman's actions don't speak for many.

Obama has had at least four legitimate attempts on his life that we know about.
From Racists, to Jesus Christ himself. Whether people actually like it or not, he's running a campaign and utilizing freedom of speech, if people take offence to that then they have that right. They don't have the right to produce a firearm and attempt to shoot him though regardless of what he's said. He shouldn't re-consider anything, it's his right as well as the rest of the countries. You get to do the shooting with a ballot paper not a firearm. Luckily there's no actual weapon but still.

martyh 06-11-2016 19:42

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35868094)
One gunman's actions don't speak for many.

Obama has had at least four legitimate attempts on his life that we know about.
From Racists, to Jesus Christ himself. Whether people actually like it or not, he's running a campaign and utilizing freedom of speech, if people take offence to that then they have that right. They don't have the right to produce a firearm and attempt to shoot him though regardless of what he's said. He shouldn't re-consider anything, it's his right as well as the rest of the countries. You get to do the shooting with a ballot paper not a firearm.

Quite right too ,

I did mention a while back that assassination or attempted assassination seems to be the prefered method for Americans to register their disapproval of their president :)

Damien 06-11-2016 19:45

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There wasn't a gunman. It was a conventional protest and someone else shouted, either mistakenly or with malice intent, that he had a gun and then confusion reigned until the protester was released and it was confirmed there was no gun.

Trump should consider his language because he dehumanises people, angers his base and borders on inciting violence but he shouldn't consider it because of any threat against him. In the latter case the fault lies with the person threatening violence.

adzii_nufc 06-11-2016 19:49

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35868099)
There wasn't a gunman. It was a conventional protest and someone else shouted, either mistakenly or with malice intent, that he had a gun and then confusion reigned until the protester was released and it was confirmed there was no gun.

Trump should consider his language because he dehumanises people, angers his base and borders on inciting violence but he shouldn't consider it because of any threat against him. In the latter case the fault lies with the person threatening violence.

This, some of the things he says are absurd and many times borderline ridiculous. But we all come to accept that as his freedom and right. It's then 'our' (Not in this case obviously) right to vote for or against that. I dislike Clinton and I'm not very fond of Trump but shooting either of them is despicable and literally perverting the course of democracy. You don't just take a life, you take the rights of millions of people a chance of a fair vote.

martyh 06-11-2016 19:50

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35868099)
There wasn't a gunman. It was a conventional protest and someone else shouted, either mistakenly or with malice intent, that he had a gun and then confusion reigned until the protester was released and it was confirmed there was no gun.

Trump should consider his language because he dehumanises people, angers his base and borders on inciting violence but he shouldn't consider it because of any threat against him. In the latter case the fault lies with the person threatening violence.

We know ,it's just with Trump being Trump he better get used to threats of violence against him because going on past history that's how Americans deal with unpopular presidents

Mick 06-11-2016 19:50

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35868090)
Ah nights, that explains a lot.

Trump certainly seemed to have second thoughts after someone shouted 'gun' last night. He had to off the stage to change his trousers (as would we all !) Maybe he'll now consider the repercussions of stirring up so much hatred from all quarters.

As for thick/stupid - don't recall being that blunt, but it's difficult to understand how anyone with any sense right or left, could vote for him. It seems a lot of the more informed/credible Republicans can't. Damiens link does suggest his support is coming from the less educated vote.

Or maybe it's your lack of total understanding why people are voting for Trump. Hence the movement against the establishment, people aren't necessarily voting Trump because they like him, I can relate to the fact that many many people don't want another four years of failed Obama policies, you know, Obamacare, the absolute stupidity with their approach to Libya and Syria which thanks to them has given us the biggest Migration crisis in history, sorry I don't want more failed policies, which is what they/we would get with crooked Hillary.

But the news just keeps getting worse for Crooked Hillary with reports today that she directed her maid to print out Classified emails, you know someone who does NOT have clearance to handle them.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton...ied-materials/

And if that was bad...

Wikileaks reveals today that...the Clinton Foundation paid for Crooked Hillary's daughters wedding (Chelsea) and life for a decade....

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Former Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band accused Chelsea Clinton of using the private charity’s resources for her “wedding and life for a decade,” according to a new email published by WikiLeaks in its Podesta emails series.
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/w...-cash-wedding/

And people want an idiot, like her in the seat of one of the most powerful leaders of the World. Right, okay then. :erm:

Damien 06-11-2016 19:56

Re: US Election 2016
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35868101)
We know ,it's just with Trump being Trump he better get used to threats of violence against him because going on past history that's how Americans deal with unpopular presidents

American's increasing polarisation is a concern although I think all Presidents have some nutters after them as you say.


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