Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

You don't have any credible source for your )belief, do you? It is coming within the next two or three months, and it may be sooner than that.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

and where is your credible source saying that you don't have one do you the fact is no way will VM pay the over the top asking price sky are asking for SA and sky have never dropped price on anything unless forced to by Ofcom SA aint coming anytime soon and another reason sky don't want to make VM better value than sky which it would be if sky give SA to VM no way sky will want to lose customers to VM and remember sky think SA is a big selling point in people choosing sky other other platforms SA will only go to now tv no where else

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

Whilst your asking Dave for his credible source you won't mind me asking you for yours ? It may well come who knows , certainly not us that's for sure.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

As I mentioned in a DS forum post, Sky make a loss on Atlantic excluding new subscriptions. If you base it on Ad Revenue/Rights alone, the viewing figures are too low. By being available on VM they have a guaranteed amount of money coming in each month. Most of their recent subscriptions in the last 1/2 months are probably for those wanting BT Sport, the buzz around Atlantic has died down a little.

If sky operated Atlantic and they didn't have any other channels and they didn't own a platform and it was getting the current amount of viewers it would crash and fall. The last few years the subscription uptake has helped fund that and I'm sure the guaranteed income from Virgin of probably keep it afloat.

If we said SD and HD came with SD at 25p per customer and HD at 30p per customer (baring in mind VM is now around £3 better off per customer a month at the moment)

4 million M+ to XL recieve SD = £1 million
1.8 million XL recieve HD = £540,000

So virgin pay Sky £1.5 million a month for Atlantic, if I was Sky I'd probably shake on that, it's equivalent to 77,000 basic Sky subscriptions without any additional cost. Especially now the hype for it has died down.

And before you say where would they get the money, Virgin used to pay ESPN (based on £3 per XL customer has quoted previously) £5.5 million (without any non-XL subs), so they have the more than enough money going spare.

Now TV is great but can you expect 154,000 people signing up? That what they would need to get the same amount of money as VM, plus they have additional costs involved in hosting the streams (they already host them with sky go, but the additional bandwidth required).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

yes I have used that argument about SA in past that they make much more money but sky don't seem bothered about that there using it to try get people to get sky and I don't think they have changed there stance on SA

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

But the people who really want Atlantic would have moved by now, the latest new Sky subs are people who are moving for BT, now Sky are going to have to be reliant on advertising revenue, but even the biggest show around at the moment (Game of Thrones) has struggled to pull in over a million every week despite the fact the channel is available to 10 million people.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

yes I agree lets hope I am wrong and it will come but I cant see it coming

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

Woah, Woah, Woah people.

This is the coming soon thread - The words 'credible' and 'sources' are banned on here

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

ESPN America removed from guide!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

well that channel no more in uk only ESPN and ESPN HD now

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

I am given it serious consideration to moving to sky, as I am a rugby fan and BT have the rights. I emailed the CEO's office and received a phone call today. I was not offered any reductions or offers, the woman I spoke to just apologised for the uncertainty and advised me to wait a bit longer before moving to sky as I am out of contract.
Whether she was just trying to keep me as a customer or there is news coming is any ones guess.
I'm happy to wait a bit longer though as the first match isn't till September. If no news by then I will find it hard not to switch. Although I would definitely miss TiVo, superior BB and guaranteed picture in bad wether.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

ESPN Classic was removed too.

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But alas nothing added but lets hope that changes soon.:)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

Ongoing theme here. This is what I find so unprofessional about VM. it's not the not being able to get the channel saga. I understand they're trying to get us the channel on the best terms.

It's just the ongoing lies from the company about it all

"we'll have good news in a few days"
"dont do anything yet we have a break through"
"expect information by the end of the week"
"hold tight dont leave virgin yet we have an announcement soon"

Again i don't care if they thought they would have a deal soon but then it collapsed. DO NOT HINT AT ANYTHING IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY IT MAY NOT COME TRUE. It makes you look unprofessional, amateur, desperate/panicky to keep customers and makes the whole organisation look like its run by chuckles the clown.

Thats why i'm tempted to leave VM. i know they're trying to get us a good deal but its the amateur way they're calling me every day hinting at some sort of deal which quite clearly is never coming

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

During the days of NASN and the early years on ESPN America it was a great channel for all American Sports fans sadly it has gone down hill over the last year and now is no more.:(