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Dave42 04-09-2017 22:52

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915207)
Premier League Considers Airing Saturday Night Matches in Coming Months.



http://www.90min.com/posts/5491900-p...-coming-months

no surprise costs were always gonna get higher

denphone 05-09-2017 04:37

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35915278)
no surprise costs were always gonna get higher

Strange how our usual suspect has gone rather quiet today as the imaginary delusion of thinking lower TV sports prices were coming is just that.;)

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 09:40

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915291)
Strange how our usual suspect has gone rather quiet today as the imaginary delusion of thinking lower TV sports prices were coming is just that.;)

I don't think you were ever likely to get so many extra matches for free, Den!

denphone 05-09-2017 10:06

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35915301)
I don't think you were ever likely to get so many extra matches for free, Den!

So you agree in that prices are likely to rise then??.;)

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 10:26

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915306)
So you agree in that prices are likely to rise then??.;)

Assuming that Sky and BT will have to pay more to screen the extra matches, then it is pretty obvious that those increases will be passed on. However, you still seem to be confused by what I have said about the impact of competition.

What I have said is that when the big global players such as Amazon, Netflix, Discovery, etc move in, we are likely to see more imaginative models which could lower prices to the consumer despite higher payments being made for the rights. I never said this would happen with the existing players, Sky and BT. We will have to wait until potential bidders with bigger pockets get stuck in. This might happen with the next bidding round or perhaps the one after, but it will happen. Prices to the consumer are so high at the moment because Sky and BT keep everything to themselves and charge as much as they can, and other operators are shut out of as much as they can get away with. These are the practices more associated with monopolies.

If there was more on-selling or distribution of rights to other platforms to show some of these matches, the cost to the winning bidders will come down. I cannot foretell when this will come about, but I am sure it will sooner rather than later.

muppetman11 05-09-2017 10:37

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Old Boy you do talk some complete rubbish , I suppose Amazon and Netflix will sell it at a loss or minimal profit. Of course they will.:rolleyes:

Give us a few ideas of how you think they'll sell it or bundle it with their existing offerings.

Kabaal 05-09-2017 11:18

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the streaming platforms get into it via 3pm kick offs at first. The current ban on them being broadcast in the UK will eventually cave to the ridiculous amounts of money that will be offered.

Whatever happens it will unlikely be one provider offering everything (at whatever price) anytime soon. More likely we'll end up having to shell out for Sky + BT + Amazon/whoever.

denphone 05-09-2017 11:19

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Anthony Joshua to fight Kubrat Pulev in Cardiff on Sky Sports Box Office on October 28th.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...edium=referral

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 11:31

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35915310)
Old Boy you do talk some complete rubbish , I suppose Amazon and Netflix will sell it at a loss or minimal profit. Of course they will.:rolleyes:

Give us a few ideas of how you think they'll sell it or bundle it with their existing offerings.

I gave you an example in my last post. Of course they won't make a loss! They would find alternative means of extracting more income from other broadcasters and offer additional cheaper packages to attract more subscribers.

muppetman11 05-09-2017 11:58

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
The whole idea of adding things to Prime is attracting people to buying at Amazon , how would that work if other broadcasters had the content Amazon had just paid boat loads of money for.

denphone 05-09-2017 12:38

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35915324)
I gave you an example in my last post. Of course they won't make a loss! They would find alternative means of extracting more income from other broadcasters and offer additional cheaper packages to attract more subscribers.

Perhaps you need to read this OB as this tells you the sports rights market is going one way worldwide.

http://indianexpress.com/article/spo...-bcci-4829847/

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 14:58

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35915329)
The whole idea of adding things to Prime is attracting people to buying at Amazon , how would that work if other broadcasters had the content Amazon had just paid boat loads of money for.

Because Amazon would have all the matches it pays for. It could sell on selected matches to terrestrial or other broadcasters; provide snippets to YouTube and other platforms; set up Amazon pay channels on all pay tv platforms (not just Sky, Virgin and BT) including on Amazon Prime; employ techniques to enable discounts and promotions on these services by way of sales inducements; provide better access by way of pay per view events on all platforms; etc.

There are plenty of opportunities to make money out of having these sports rights in a way that Sky and BT do not and that is what would enable them to pay more for the rights while decreasing costs to the consumer.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35915340)
Perhaps you need to read this OB as this tells you the sports rights market is going one way worldwide.

http://indianexpress.com/article/spo...-bcci-4829847/

Again, that's what happens with monopolies and monopoly practices.

muppetman11 05-09-2017 15:01

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Still sounds pie in the Sky Old Boy.

OLD BOY 05-09-2017 16:42

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35915370)
Still sounds pie in the Sky Old Boy.

It's just different. Nobody would have imagined ten years ago that we would have the likes of Netflix streaming TV series and films to our TV screens, would they?

We have become used to Sky's way of doing things, but as usual, disrupters come in and muck it all up for the established players.

Gavin-D 05-09-2017 19:46

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Virgin Media owner Liberty Global rolls out Juniper NFV

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/4...ut-Juniper-NFV


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