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Paul	09-03-2024 21:53

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171784)

... unless there are memories one doesn't want to give up.
A past family home, etc.

Those are not good reasons to hang onto an empty house, move on.

jfman

09-03-2024 22:03

Re: The budget

The memories can’t be that valuable if a small increase in council tax isn’t worth paying on top of all the other associated costs. Insurance, maintenance, energy, etc.

Hugh	09-03-2024 22:11

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171781)

Why would they if it was not in a convenient location?
Didn't you think of that?

Yes, I did - if they didn’t want to live in it, either sell it or let it.

Leaving a house empty to moulder and deteriorate seems strange, unless you are proactively maintaining an empty house?

Sephiroth

09-03-2024 22:22

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36171786)

The memories can’t be that valuable if a small increase in council tax isn’t worth paying on top of all the other associated costs. Insurance, maintenance, energy, etc.

Another £2,800/year for the greedy council (100% uplift) takes it out of budget.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36171787)

Yes, I did - if they didn’t want to live in it, either sell it or let it.

Leaving a house empty to moulder and deteriorate seems strange, unless you are proactively maintaining an empty house?

Of course, you are in the dark as to what's actually happening.
The house is occupied for a week every 5 or 6 weeks. The house is furnished and CH keeps the damp out.

1andrew1

09-03-2024 23:13

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171788)

Of course, you are in the dark as to what's actually happening.
The house is occupied for a week every 5 or 6 weeks. The house is furnished and CH keeps the damp out.

Sell it and rent somewhere else if you want to visit the area. Keep the photos for the memories and help the housing crisis and your pocket by selling it.

Sephiroth

09-03-2024 23:49

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36171790)

Sell it and rent somewhere else if you want to visit the area. Keep the photos for the memories and help the housing crisis and your pocket by selling it.

Why is this advice being offered? It’s the house that matters not the area.

Your point about the housing crisis wasn’t serious, I hope. What’s needed are millions of starter homes in areas with jobs not the piffling scattered number that Gove’s lot are stealth taking from us.

jfman

10-03-2024 03:51

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171788)

Another £2,800/year for the greedy council (100% uplift) takes it out of budget.

]Of course, you are in the dark as to what's actually happening.
The house is occupied for a week every 5 or 6 weeks. The house is furnished and CH keeps the damp out.

A “holiday home”?

Sephiroth

10-03-2024 09:29

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36171794)

A “holiday home”?

Hardly. The house is regularly and frequently inhabited but that does not avoid the Council Tax 100% uplift. There is a tight main home/second home test.

Chris

10-03-2024 10:10

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171788)

Another £2,800/year for the greedy council (100% uplift) takes it out of budget.

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Of course, you are in the dark as to what's actually happening.
The house is occupied for a week every 5 or 6 weeks. The house is furnished and CH keeps the damp out.

I’m curious as to why you think you’re entitled not to pay towards the services provided by the council in the area where your house is located.

Note that excuses like ‘we don’t send our kids to school/use social services/libraries’ do not apply. The whole point of socialised services is we all pay for all of them regardless of need so we all have them when we need them regardless of means.

The long-settled democratic view in the UK is that we pay for local services via a charge related to property value. Second home exemptions are an anomaly whose time is long overdue.

mrmistoffelees

10-03-2024 11:30

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171800)

Hardly. The house is regularly and frequently inhabited but that does not avoid the Council Tax 100% uplift. There is a tight main home/second home test.

Can afford it ? Then pay it and hush

Can’t afford it ? Sell it and then perhaps see if there’s a ‘home bank’ in the area

You’re in a truly privileged position, stop complaining

Sephiroth

10-03-2024 14:07

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36171802)

Your rather cold-hearted approach to this situation is crueller than I’d have held you for.

The doubling of Council Tax is a disgusting raid on people’s in heritances because they failed to properly stimulate the housebuilding industry.

Your socialised services point is correct; we pay for those through the 100% Council Tax that we contribute without drawing on any of them except the very occasional bin collection.

I’m not asking for a second home exemption; the new tax should have had more flexibility to allow for the situation we face. As it stands, it is as cold hearted as you seem to be and an evidence of government failure to build more homes.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36171805)

Can afford it ? Then pay it and hush

Can’t afford it ? Sell it and then perhaps see if there’s a ‘home bank’ in the area

You’re in a truly privileged position, stop complaining

Nasty.

jfman

10-03-2024 14:08

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There's nothing nasty about using the tax system to discourage inefficient uses of a finite resource.

Sephiroth

10-03-2024 14:40

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My property, my decision on how to use it. None of theState’s business - so it should have remained.

Remember it’s down to the government’s policy failure in house building.

jfman

10-03-2024 14:42

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171812)

My property, my decision on how to use it. None of theState’s business - so it should have remained.

Remember it’s down to the government’s policy failure in house building.

It is indeed your decision how to use it within the parameters of the taxation system that prevails.

Hugh	10-03-2024 15:17

Re: The budget

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36171812)

My property, my decision on how to use it. None of theState’s business - so it should have remained.

Remember it’s down to the government’s policy failure in house building.

The Government you have repeatedly voted for...

To quote the old saying - "I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs man who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."

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