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nomadking 22-02-2013 15:03

Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.
 
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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35540207)
The person on the other side of the door could just as easily do the same thing as Pistorius did.

He says he wasn't wearing his prosthetic legs and therefore any shots would have likely to have been above his head. After firing the shots he returned to the bedroom and even put on his prosthetic legs. That would have been the time when was at most risk, as he assumed that he hadn't missed whoever he thought he was aiming at.

denphone 22-02-2013 15:11

Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.
 
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35540190)
He's just been granted bail

In my humble opinion he should have never be granted bail as that certainly would not happen in this country.

Chris 22-02-2013 15:24

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35540219)
In my humble opinion he should have never be granted bail as that certainly would not happen in this country.

What has what would happen in this country got to do with the decision of a South African magistrate? We're not the colonial power, they can make their own decisions without reference to normal practice in English law. ;)

As it happens, even people charged with murder here have the right to bail unless certain conditions are met that would give a judge reason to refuse.

Kymmy 22-02-2013 15:57

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35540215)
He says he wasn't wearing his prosthetic legs and therefore any shots would have likely to have been above his head.

Which would only lower his height by 2ft (remember his racing blades are a lot longer than a standard prosetic.



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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35540219)
In my humble opinion he should have never be granted bail as that certainly would not happen in this country.

The bail laws in this country specify the following (highlighted part in red means that bail may be granted)

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Section 114(2) provides that bail may not be granted to someone charged with murder unless the court is of the opinion that there is no significant risk that, if released on bail, that person would commit an offence that would be likely to cause physical or mental injury to another person.

Gary L 22-02-2013 19:48

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It's all really strange how it seems as though he's that much of a 'celebrity' that people over there don't care whether he killed her or not.
he's a bloody hero.

you get the feeling that even if he did kill her. he'll be let off because he's a bloody hero!

peanut 22-02-2013 19:52

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35540396)
It's all really strange how it seems as though he's that much of a 'celebrity' that people over there don't care whether he killed her or not.
he's a bloody hero.

you get the feeling that even if he did kill her. he'll be let off because he's a bloody hero!

I think he's a 'oops the word I used was blanked out', sorry, and gutted that he got bail. And if I want to make jokes about him I will, it doesn't take the sadness away from the deceased which I feel totally different about.

Each to their own.

Kymmy 22-02-2013 19:52

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No one has denied that he killed her, he's admitted to firing the weapon. What is in question is whether he murdered her or not.

As none of us know all of the facts I suggest that our opinions currently have no weight in the matter

Osem 22-02-2013 20:12

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Am I missing something or was she silent during the time she was being shot?

peanut 22-02-2013 20:19

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35540407)
Am I missing something or was she silent during the time she was being shot?

The properties are quite well detatched. Unless the windows were open maybe no matter how much she screamed probably wouldn't have mattered. Though I reckon all this will come out in the actual trial.

Osem 22-02-2013 21:21

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35540412)
The properties are quite well detatched. Unless the windows were open maybe no matter how much she screamed probably wouldn't have mattered. Though I reckon all this will come out in the actual trial.

Sorry I meant unless she was killed or rendered unconscious immediately, surely he would have heard her screaming and realised she wasn't a burglar.

peanut 22-02-2013 21:31

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35540455)
Sorry I meant unless she was killed or rendered unconscious immediately, surely he would have heard her screaming and realised she wasn't a burglar.

Ah right, yeah I agree, it does sound a bit odd. Unless he did shoot her in the head first maybe. As odd that if I heard a noise, I'd wake the missus up to confirm the noise which would also make sure she would be alert just in case. To just not bother checking her or waking her or just looking out for her is something I can't understand, it's just plain weird. Then go to the bathroom and shoot without at least shouting first.

A lot of questions that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense at the mo.

Pierre 22-02-2013 23:19

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I predict an acquittal, not a massive stretch but I think he'll get off.

mertle 23-02-2013 10:50

Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35540512)
I predict an acquittal, not a massive stretch but I think he'll get off.

similar to my feelings. saddens me media hysteria forgot the poor woman who been killed. Whether it was in spew of rage or innocent how does her family feel he out on the streets.

Think court got caught up in this he should never been treated any different than person down street. Think judge made error call to be honest. Whether he will do OJ simpson style runner I cant say. By all acounts he got temper. We saw glimpse like said when he went balistic in para olympics. He going have keep head down for the trial but worry he is accident waiting to happen.

I hope I am wrong but would not like be near him if losses it.

denphone 24-02-2013 08:07

Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.
 
Oscar Pistorius brother Carl also facing homicide trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21563911

Chris 24-02-2013 08:32

Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested after fatal shooting.
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35540895)
Oscar Pistorius brother Carl also facing homicide trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21563911

"Causing death by dangerous driving" I think we might call that here. It makes a good headline because the SA legal system calls it "culpable homicide", but let's not pretend its got anything to do with Oscar's trial. It's not connected and it's not in any way similar.


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