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TheDaddy 03-04-2023 23:56
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 36149160)
If l said what l really thought, then l would get banned.
My biggest point is that ' who the hell does Trump think he is' yes, he has money. Yes, he has probably paid hush money.

What he is doing is simply making America a disgraceful place including his supporters.

He incited rioters to ram the White House simply because he felt he had one. He is a like a cry baby without the dummy.
The dummies are the red neck hicks who believe his bs

1andrew1 04-04-2023 21:06
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Lock him up? Donald Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records and conspiracy.

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Now the indictment - a formal charge - has been unsealed to the public, here are some of the charges facing Trump...

From August 2015 to December 2017, Trump orchestrated his "catch and kill" scheme through a series of payments that he then concealed through months of false business entries;

In one instance, American Media Inc paid $30,000 to a former Trump Tower doorman, who claimed to have a story about a child Trump had out of wedlock;

In the second instance, AMI paid $150,000 to a woman who alleged she had a sexual relationship with Trump. When Trump directed a lawyer to reimburse AMI in cash, a special counsel indicated to him that the payment should be made via a shell company and not by cash. AMI ultimately declined to accept reimbursement after consulting their counsel;

In the third instance, 12 days before the presidential general election Trump's special counsel wired $130,000 to an attorney for an adult film actress;

After winning the election, Trump reimbursed the special counsel through a series of monthly checks, first from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust and later from his bank account. In total, 11 checks were issued for a phony purpose.
https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...dates-12840161

TheDaddy 04-04-2023 21:53
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36149277)
Lock him up? Donald Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records and conspiracy.
Yes, he still keeps saying he wants to see Hilary and the Bidens in prison but I just can't see why he thinks they'll want to visit him in there though :shrug:

Paul 04-04-2023 22:38
Re: Trump Organization Found Guilty Of Tax Fraud At Trial
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36149277)
Lock him up? Donald Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records and conspiracy.
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... a series of monthly checks, first from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust and later from his bank account. In total, 11 checks were issued for a phony purpose.
A little confused here - surely what checks he writes from his own bank account can be for any purpose ?

1andrew1 04-04-2023 22:54
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36149280)
A little confused here - surely what checks he writes from his own bank account can be for any purpose ?
The checks he wrote from his own account can be for any legal purpose.

However, the issue seems to be more about their purpose being illegal ie it's effectively hush money.

Have to confess I can't remember the last time I wrote a cheque!

Hugh 05-04-2023 01:35
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36149280)
A little confused here - surely what checks he writes from his own bank account can be for any purpose ?
They weren’t from his personal account, they were from Trump Company accounts - in the company accounts, they were recorded as being for one thing, but they were actually for something else for which no contract/agreement had been signed; this is, under NY law, fraudulent (falsifying business records).

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the key allegations:

- The main accusation against Trump is that he "repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal criminal conduct that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election"

- By identifying and suppressing harmful stories about him from going public before the election, Trump and others involved in the scheme "violated election laws and made and caused false entries in the business records of various entities in New York"

- The document adds that Trump and his allies "also took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes, the true nature of the payments"

Mr K 05-04-2023 07:58
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It seems half the USA is in a cult and insane. Trump worshippers really are completely bonkers.

1andrew1 05-04-2023 09:07
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36149291)
It seems half the USA is in a cult and insane. Trump worshippers really are completely bonkers.
Fortunately I think there are fewer Trump apologists this side of the Pond now. They've seen through what he is and don't care for it. A spoilt rich kid who feels he is entitled to get his own way whatever the law says.

ianch99 05-04-2023 11:15
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36149293)
Fortunately I think there are fewer Trump apologists this side of the Pond now. They've seen through what he is and don't care for it. A spoilt rich kid who feels he is entitled to get his own way whatever the law says.
Fellow man-child Farage is throwing his toys out of the pram on Twitter :D

Chrysalis 05-04-2023 11:21
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He wont be doing time, its just a question of the size of the fine.

1andrew1 05-04-2023 15:07
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I think we're in for a long battle here.

Mick 05-04-2023 16:57
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Read the indictment, never read anything so incredibly weak. Political persecution it must be.

Damien 05-04-2023 18:30
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36149336)
Read the indictment, never read anything so incredibly weak. Political persecution it must be.
I only skimmed it but falsifying business records is a crime, you and I would be done with fraud if we did it. Other than that though I don't see much weakness because they don't give evidence, just accuse him of it.

Feels a bit like Al Capone that they get him on this though if he is guilty.

1andrew1 05-04-2023 20:19
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36149351)
I only skimmed it but falsifying business records is a crime, you and I would be done with fraud if we did it. Other than that though I don't see much weakness because they don't give evidence, just accuse him of it.

Feels a bit like Al Capone that they get him on this though if he is guilty.
As you said, we can't judge the validity of the case without the evidence. However, as the jury felt there is a case to answer, presumably they've seen some of the evidence against him.

Arthurgray50@blu 05-04-2023 22:19
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I simply cannot understand how the courts have told Trump to cut out certain talks. Yet, he is blabbing his mouth lout about Biden.

I am surprised how he is being allowed to go for President again, and totally gobsmacked how he hasn't been shot.


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