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April most likely for that

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Been running this latest build via Bootcamp on my Macbook Pro for a couple of days now.

Been fine so far, quite like it especially since I thought 8 was awful.

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I'm looking to buy a laptop in the next few weeks. That seems to be a good time to try out win 10. Does anyone know if you can copy the existing OS(win 8.1) on the same physical system to give a dual boot setup and upgrade one of the copies to win 10? That would give a working 8.1 system and a test win 10 setup to play around with. Only one 8.1 setup would then exist.

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Tried it today, buggy as hell and I don't see any real advantages to it.

Uninstalled.

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You can boot into a VHD (Virtual Hard Disk) with Windows 8.1. So it won't impact your main OS install, but will run as if it's fully installed on your hard disk

There is guide here http://www.nextofwindows.com/native-...-or-windows-8/

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Buggy as hell? bit of an exaggeration.

I've had it up for two full days and also spent last night playing games on Steam and Origin. Everything worked great.

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For you perhaps. For me display mirroring wouldn't work, windows update wouldn't work, wireless would not disconnect and shutdown didn't work. The notification/quick menu section came up once, with half of it missing, and couldn't be hidden, after restarting it won't come up at all. The feedback window has also gone AWOL and the start menu search does not work when the taskbar isn't horizontal.

Course if you happen to "play games on Steam and Origin" neither actually involves using any of the new Windows components so of course you're not going to have issues.

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did you upgrade or clean install when you installed new build

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Well no I said that's what I did last night. I did say been running it on boot camp for a couple days now. Feedback window is still there and works. Notifications have actually worked fine.

I've been able to shut down and restart ok too. Xbox app works fine too.

So yes I do actually use the normal bits of windows too.

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Clean install.

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Funny how it runs better when you don't install it on a PC than on a fully-supported PC platform... :dozey:

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Just updated from 8.1 and all seems to be working okay :)

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Same here, works great and i have been doing everything that i did in windows 7 and 8.1. At the moment it will be staying on my machine in preferance to windows 8.1

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notifications don't work properly for me, it displays a list of them, but if I click on them, I don't actually get any more info :(

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@qasdfdsaq
windows 10 updates Automatic.
you can't change the update setting because Microsoft won't let you.
and it seems working very great. plus its free for win 7 and win 8 users.

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It's bound to be in the registry, there's just no user shortcut to it. ;)

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I guess there is no way to turn it off in the Technical Preview as it's now the way that new builds will be delivered.

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I suppose that MS need the test versions to be the same and not different with some people not having certain updates applied. Any feedback would just get messy.

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Linky and tweak / reset

Yep, Always the registry. ;)

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Rumour has it there won't be a CP of this and the TP getting updated is the way of the future so i may give this a go eventually.

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I tried installing it twice in VirtualBox (once as 32bit and once as 64bit), but neither worked properly - Start menu wouldn't appear in either.

Considering the VHD option when I can get a version working in a VM

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I have downloaded the Windows 8.1 ISO so i will do a clean install for Windows 10 then i can easily go back if i have to.

I hear a clean install is the way to go, alot less buggy problems.

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Does Avast Free and Comodo Firewall work with Windows 10?

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Wrong.

It's under administrative tools. They've taken away the 'consumer' way of manipulating it, the system administrator method is still there and always will be.

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yes clean install is best just tried to install avast wont let me says compatability issue error

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It can be turned off by administrators either via local group policy or via network/active directory policies. The latter override the former and both have always overridden the user-set options in Control Panel.

I imagine a lot of large enterprises will throw a hissy fit if they even attempt to remove the ability to change those settings.

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Which Antivirus and software Firewall are people finding works with this?

I guess there is still a built in Windows Defender antivirus that still works if nothing else does?

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yes windows defender is the default AV just using that one here


Mary Jo Foley ‏@maryjofoley · 1h1 hour ago
MS confirms its Windows 10 'Spartan' browser will get extensions support: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...et-extensions/ …

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Avira works

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What I meant was that the whole point of the Technical Preview is to test and provide feedback on the latest builds, so if Microsoft gave an easy way for you turn off updates during the preview and you don't receive the latest builds then what what is the point for Microsoft to offer the program in the first place?

I'm assuming that when the final version of Windows 10 is released, there will be a UI way to turn off updates (even if it's not recommended) in addition to the existing registry / policy options.

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am thinking the same. whats the point of disable the updates?

on retail or OEM version you can turn off the updates if you want. which makes no sense.
unless you cracked it or want a virus or you want someone to Hack your computer

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It makes perfect sense.

In a managed, enterprise environment there are other ways of propagating Windows updates.

Many secure environments do not allow client machines direct connections (make that any connection whatsoever) to the public internet therefore allowing machines to auto update would be pointless.

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It makes sense for Microsoft to lock down Windows Update access in this version of Windows 10. Remember, this is beta software, even though they are calling it a preview. It makes sense for them to remove user's ability to disable Windows Update because they need to ensure that every user who submits a bug report is running the latest update.

Be interesting to see if they lock it down in the same way on the actual release version. There are legitimate reasons people would want to block Windows Updates. Large scale enterprise deployments, for instance. If you are deploying software to tens of thousands of PCs, you want to stop user access to it until you've tested it as thoroughly as you can, to ensure it doesn't break something that is critical to the enterprise.

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I like to have any updates on "ask me" so I can decide whether to allow them or not and also whether a full backup at that point especially of the registry would be wise seeing the number of updates on things that have gone horribly wrong. If it's done automatically you might have trouble restoring the previous good state.

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As does Malwarebytes

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Does anyone know how the next release(s) of Win10 are likely to be released - will we get an email, will it be done automatically?

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it be done by windows update the next build

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Which fine for a finalised OS - but this isn't.

There are lots of warning to say that any of the updates may involve a full re-install and / or loss of data, so not to put it onto a production machine or use it as your primary OS.

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Thanks :tu:

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My windows 10 is on my primary machine.
I did windows 10 upgrade on top of windows 8.1
Running good. I think I need 8Gb RAM now.

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I am thinking of trying the Windows 10 beta on my old laptop, it is a 1.73 Centrino with 2 Gig of RAM 60 Gig hard disk, is that high enough spec to try it on.

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Here are the minimum specs, basically if it can run Windows 8 you should be ok.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-1...e-as-windows-8

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uninstall latest virtualbox and got old version 4.3.12 which isn't working, but the vm isn't kernel errors, which google provides lots of answers for, so hopefuly can fix it.

one strange problem I have is when I turn on this pc, network is unavailable, I reboot, and networking is fine, even if I leave it a whiel after switching on before logging in, still have this issue on turning on, so have to bounce it!

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@Ken W
i got Intel Quad Core2 Q6600 2.4GHz with 4Gb RAM memory DDR3 (1066MHz)
Graphic Card:- Geforce 9400 GT.

it sometimes lag's alot when opening lots of apps programs and web browser taps. and sometimes lag's a bit. and sometimes running very good.
(don't no if upgrading the Graphic card to AMD Radeon R7 240 might help with lag).

its better to have Intel i5 or Intel i7 or AMD A10 with 8Gb RAM
if you don't want any lag.

it will lag alot or it might crash alot on 1.73 Centrino better to get a better CPU with more RAM. you can try it if you want, and tell us if it worked very good or not.

but in my opinion its not really worth it trying on a single core CPU with less memory.

if it lags on my computer then what will happen to yours?

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Perhaps I will get another hard drive to put in my main pc to try it out (3.4Ghz quad core + 8 gig ram) then I could just swap the hard which has 8.1 installed with the new drive so not to interfere with my windows 8.1.

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this pc has 4gb ram, 2.53ghz intel core 2 duo e7200, seems to run ok, on board graphics, so it's not a flash pc, just sits under tv to surf internet, watch tv/films.

regarding virtualbox, converted the vdi, to an ova, now it has opened in vmware player, which I haven't used in years, but it seems to be working :)

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VMWare Workstation (Version 10) supposedly has 'official' support for Windows 10 VMs.

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How to enable the Spartan browser's speedy new Edge engine makes ie quicker

http://www.pcworld.com/article/28752...html#tk.nl_pwr

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its not lagging now. the reason for lagging was my network was on 2.4GHz (Internet Router) modem.
I changed my network to 5GHz not its running fast.

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The frequency of your 'network modem' makes your CPU and Windows lag?

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web pages were lagging.

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what a pain, but got there in the end. using vmware I couldn't get the vm to connect to internet, tried a few things, and to be fair, I got bored and thought I'd go back to virtualbox.

so uninstalled virtual box again, and deleted my settings, and all remaing files in program files. reinstalled VirtualBox-4.3.12-93733-Win, created a new vm using existing virtual hard disk, and all ok now :)

still had to reboot the pc after it started to get network to work :(

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Yet you were complaining about 'apps programs' lagging, not web pages.

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yeah if i install lots of programs and software then it lags.
but web pages were lagging because my internet it using 2.4GHz network.

web pages running fast now on 5GHz.

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Can Windows 10 beta be downloaded to a file so that I can install it on my other pc?

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http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/preview-iso

You can create a DVD for it or a bootable flash drive.

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Thank you that is the answer I was hoping for.

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Still can't make up my mind whether to install it or wait a few months!

What do you guys think of your install seeing you have had it running a while?

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well new build only been out for a week been fine here so far you could dual boot to try it or use a VM

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No problems here and you can use the new Spartan browser - much quicker

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annoying it did an update this evening, and automatically rebooted, I've changed the settings so I get prompted, rather than it automatically rebooting :(

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Even more bugs here. Windows title bars disappearing off-screen, wireless devices unavailable for no apparent reason, and system dialogs appearing completely black.

Seems like most of the problems I've come across are UI related, but still. It's gone beyond funny into frustrating territory now.

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I have downloaded the Win 10 preview ISO and created a install DVD.
I am going to install the Windows 10 preview on a empty drive the any tips to watch out for in the install?

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The only problem I've got is that the laptop doesn't connect automatically after the router has been turned off otherwise all working fine. :):)

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it installs exactly like windows 8 or 8.1

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How long does it take on a clean install on an SDD as when i upgraded from 7 to 8 it took 20mins (for an upgrade)?

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should be less than that on a SSD ive not got a SSD yet

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Great, i will wait a few months though until the stability improves.

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Lucky you. Three laptops here and all of them have connection problems when resumed after standby. Then again, they are all using the same Intel driver which wasn't designed for Windows 10.

Aside from minor interface bugs, the other half of the issues seem to stem from lack of driver availability. And this god-awful half-combo of traditional Win7 control panel and Win 8 settings panel.

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you won't have any problems for basic task. normal use.
so i don't know why people are sacred for?
and works perfectly fine on upgrade on top of windows 8.1. without fresh install.

if you need help installing windows 10 then check Youtube. should be easy.
if a stupid person like me can do it. why can't you?

i can't even spell right need help from dictionary. need help with grammar and punctuation.

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No comment.

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First word of truth you've spoken all day.

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LOOOOL. I am, whatever you say I am

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Windows 7 DVD and repair CD just don't see my hard disks (SATA), Linux has no worries. Windows 7 is running fine but I don't have a floppy for drivers. Can Win10 work without fuffing around? Can Win 10 go into my old Win 7 RC partition and dual boot to Win 7.

Normally I boot to GRUB2 on the second HD that can load Win 7 or Linux and I did have Windows "loader" of the first HD but that's got broken and I can't repair it (see above).

So what I'd want to do is
1)In BIOS switch boot order to 1st HD (after DVD)
2)Install Win 10 over Win 7 RC and have it repair the boot on HD1 to switch between 7 and 10


Thus
Boot HD1 -> Windows menu (7 and 10)
Boot HD2 (normal) -> GRUB2 menu including Windows -> Windows menu (7 and 10)

Will this work?

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Windows 10, like all updated installers, has improved driver support for more recent drives and controllers. It can handle many SATA chipsets that Win7 couldn't but whether that includes yours we cannot say without knowing what yours actually is.

If you can boot any copy of Windows you can run the same repair from inside Windows itself.

Unless you install four copies of Windows, no this will not work. Windows will not automatically manage bootloader entries on any drive except the one it is started from. If you install Windows 10 on HD1, you will not see a boot menu entry for it on HD2 unless you add it manually.

There are command line tools you can use to manipulate both the bootloader and boot configuration data by hand, but they are not the easiest things to work with, and IIRC they changed something between Windows 7 and Windows 8 that makes it a mess to combine.

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Ahh, the joys of beta testing software.. Yep, I've beta tested a few OSes and every time I've had problems with drivers not being updated.

My experience with Windows 10? Installed it on a few VMs and it runs fine. Installed it to a VHD on my machine, then booted the machine from that VHD, and it booted twice. Now all I get is a black screen when I start it.

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Windows 10 Technical Preview Update Rollup: February 4, 2015

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3036140?wa=wsignin1.0

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Indeed. At least it's mostly compatible with Win8/8.1 drivers and these issues are likely to be fixed before launch - unlike Vista where drivers weren't updated until a year after it went public!

That said, I also ran the developer preview of Windows 8 before it came out, and I had far fewer issues, I'd say that was a much better overall experience as well even considering the parts that worked as intended. I actually liked the Windows 8 preview and it frustrated me far less.

Incidentally I'm finding Windows 10 uses about 20-40% more power while idling on several laptops, which puts it back on par with Windows XP level power drain. Not particularly unexpected considering the mass of missing drivers...

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I did the 8 before release and it was awful, bought it for the cheap price and couldn't get on with it and went back to 7. Now I like 8 and am sorely tempted to just download the 10 ISO file on release to get it free and then try it out once proper release comes along.

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Microsoft are said to be targeting June 2015 for RTM of Windows 10.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-1...-is-the-target

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Windows 10 Launching This Summer in 190 Countries and 111 Languages

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwin...111-languages/


Microsoft says pirated versions of Windows will also get a free upgrade to Windows 10

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsof...medium=twitter

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Wow am surprised at the non genuine copies getting upgraded but it makes sense if the update is free.

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Very big strategy change for Microsoft but I can see where they're coming from.

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It will annoy the people that bought windows legally.

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I bought Windows 8.1 legally a few weeks ago because I needed an upgrade from 7 and couldn't be bothered waiting for 10.

I'm not annoyed at all.

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it will kill off the pirates too surely that's a good thing

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It will for the first year while it is free for windows 7-8 users, however XP users and the period after 12mths would still get pirated.

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I have only just upgraded to windows 8.1.

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yeah is this the plan

get everybody on it then have to pay to get "security updates" going forward.

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wrong

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MS asks for feed back on more new icons, i think they're far better than the other set!

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...tirely-new-set

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I think I'd have to agree.

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I never understand with the amount of bloat in Windows why MS don't give an option of skins for those who don't like the Fisher Price look. Is it really so difficult to give us conservative (small c) the traditional GUI look aka 95/98/XP and start menu as an option?

It would deflect the criticism.

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new build 10041 Available now on fast ring updates

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all updated to build 10041 here now

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Will do it today and see what its like.

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Is 10 stable enough yet to put on as a main OS? Virtualbox won't work for me, so the only way I can try it is to put it on as the main OS or dual boot. But if it isn't stable enough to do so then I will wait a bit longer.

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the new build seems very stable but best to try it as dual boot first I guess so you can deside just got to a app fix for new build you will have to install 9926 first as new build only available on fast ring updates on there at moment of you could wait a week or so till it goes on slow ring then will be iso's

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It looks pretty good to me, and Cortana is now active in the UK (Without region changing malarky).

The new sign in screen looks like an improvement too. Will test properly over the weekend. I wouldn't say it's a "Main OS" worthy build yet because features are still changing with each build.

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Does the update come automatically or do you have to download it - I'm currently running 9926

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change to fast ring in setting to get it only out for fast at moment

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Thanks :)

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yes Cortana is very basic does not work too good at moment compaired to usa one but it get better next build I'm sure

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In this Windows 10 build 10041, the Mail, Calendar, and People apps may be broken due to a licensing issue with the Store Beta. To get these apps working again, you need to follow these steps:

•Open powershell as administrator
•Run the command Get-appxprovisionedpackage –online | where-object {$_.packagename –like “*windowscommunicationsapps*”} | remove-appxprovisionedpackage –online
•Re-install Mail, People and Calendar from the Store (green tile)

for people wanting to try new build and get bug fix