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Can't think what you mean? ;)

I am sure Osem will be along in a while with lots of threads about equally odious Tory MP's & Councillors.

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Yes I dare say quite a lot's been swept under...

It's ironic how some people who claim to want to defend tolerance and oppose prejudice, stereotyping etc. feel free to openly express a visceral hatred of 'Tories' no matter what they have/haven't done. It seems the mere label 'Tory' makes anyone fair game for a lifetime of all sorts of abuse but it doesn't stop there. They all too often talk the good talk about race, religion, discrimination etc. in parliament and to the media yet we find that their own actions give a very different picture of the sort of people they really are, the depths to which they'll sink and the means by which they'll get their way. Their particular form of nastiness is totally different however. It's justified because they say it is and their targets are fair game after all... They get caught out going too far and utter a half apology and they expect it to be enough. Not so for that Tory who's pure evil by definition... Had he/she uttered the very same words or done the very same things there'd be no possible forgiveness, no possible justification, no possible mitigation.

The hypocrisy evident amongst some people is quite staggering and those who're apologists for this sort of thing are just as bad IMHO. There's more about this nasty goon's behaviour in the media for those who care to look and it's not suitable for here but at least he's not a nasty Tory eh? :rolleyes:

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well he's been suspended and operation carpet sweeper is underway ,i expect he will come out as squeaky clean .

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Well Labour have plenty of form when it comes to turning a blind eye to nastiness like this in their senior ranks let alone a minnow like this guy so it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe they'll prove us wrong eh? Time will tell.

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Labour have suspended him.

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Well UK politics have got previous history of that with all the sleaze scandals and misdeeds that go back to the Profumo affair and even before then so one should not be surprised..

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I don't think he represents the entire party. All parties will have a few bad ones. It's dangerous use them to represent the entire group.

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one rotten potato in a pack taints the rest with it's foul taste
or if you like rotten apple barrel ........;)

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I didn't here and never have said it represents the whole party or anything like that. I really don't think I could have been much clearer about that.

When Labour's leadership fails to act decisively on all these occurrences (even those which feature senior party figures like Livingstone and McDonnell) then they are not be directly responsible for the behaviour of those people but they very much are responsible for not dealing with it effectively and sending a message that they value their political friends and alliances more highly. If it'd been a Tory MP who'd said these things Labour would have been demanding his resignation to a man/woman.

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It takes a very good farmer to spot a rotten apple at the top of the barrel and be sure there are none hidden below.

It's also a perfect example of why some people want the right to edit their past so we won't know how unpleasant they really are.

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I'm really looking forward to reading them :hyper:

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It was on the news today that there is now a call for the criminal records of young people to be wiped clean as it can ruin their lives and prevent them getting a career.

It's a difficult issue. Do people that made mistakes by committing on or offline crimes in the past and who have repented deserve to be punished forever more and prevented from making something of their lives (possibly leading back into a life of crime) or is it a case of saying that if they don't like the ramifications of what they've done, they shouldn't have done what they did in the first place?

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Correct. There's a lot of important people out there in politics, the media, business, sport, entertainment etc. who behave one way in public and very differently in private and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg emerge now. I'm sure a good many of these people are going to be exposed sooner or later and when they are we'll all be able to judge their hypocrisy as well as their behaviour.

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Sadly some attitudes are deeply entrenched in parts of the establishment and parts of society.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...day-programme/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...aken-seriously

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Nothing new here...