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I guess the questions for those who don't believe in anthropogenic climate change are;
Due to the scientific method, you cannot say to 100% certainty that there is a specific cause to a certain effect. However, you can start to put percentage likelihoods that something will happen. Climate science is continuously trying to firm up those percentages but, as I said before, trying to model an entire planet is hard! |
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Incidentally, the reason scientists are not trying to have an open debate about this is because they are shouted down and threatened. Anyway, it is clear you are just sucking it all in so you won't want to consider anything which is contrary to the establishment view, so 'nuff said. ---------- Post added at 14:22 ---------- Previous post was at 14:21 ---------- Quote:
I am more concerned with the impact of that on our oceans, which is where most of it goes. |
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I read about the cross-over a while back and have sought out the paper I read. Worth a read. Interesting reveal into the human creature if nothing else. http://oro.open.ac.uk/46740/1/94_98_Bhagwat_3.pdf Quote:
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The comparison to intelligent design is quite apt really because they behave in the same way. There is a lot of talk, lots of attention, but little science behind it and when challenged on this they resort to accusations of a scientific establishment shutting them out. They also like to dress it up as an open discussion of ideas as if that's what decides what is true. Science isn't an open discussion of ideas in which open minded people challenge each other and all views are equally valid however much they wish it was. In the end there isn't much reason not to believe The Royal Society and NASA know better than people who have little grounding in the subject. |
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If that makes things tidier. Measuring CO2 absorbtion by the oceans is fairly straightforward by monitoring pH and inorganic carbonates. The difficulty comes in where there temperature changes along with the atmospheric CO2 levels |
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I don't even know the source for carbon being within normal parameters. However I did look up why a small amount of carbon can impact temperatures: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...oxide-makes-u/ |
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Nobody is arguing that carbon isn't a greenhouse gas. However, if carbon absorption levels have not changed significantly, so what? If you don't know everything about a subject as you claim here, then all the more reason to listen to alternative arguments rather than dismiss them out of hand. Until I read about the hockey stick graph deception, I also assumed also that the claims of these scientists were correct. Not any more. |
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Thank you for that, Hugh. The point I was making was that the original algorithm used would have produced a spike, whatever figures you put into the formula. It was either a deliberate manipulation or a crass mistake, but either way, it proves that no-one should stand back from questioning scientific conclusions. They are human to, and can deceive and they can make mistakes.
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