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Great sadness... her boyfriend was going to propose to her in London.

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Terrorism teaches a lesson that some still refuse to learn

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There will come a point where everyone has to realise that islam and modern western societies don't go together and cannot peacefully coexist much as we'd like it to be possible. Radical islam has a stronger grasp in the UK today then ever before and it's influence is increasing with moderate muslims either moving mosques or simply staying quiet. It just isn't practical to blame every incident on lunatic loner's anymore there is a huge issue within islam that the religion either won't or can't deal with and the longer it continues the worse the problem will become and the higher the death toll will be.

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So what are you saying , we should ban Islam? There are extremists everywhere sometimes using religion as an excuse. 99% from all religions live in harmony. Making people feel outsiders us going to increase the risk of radicalism and make them less likely to report others they suspect within their community.

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Of course not! The only way that this problem will eventually be tackled is through baby steps and the first step is for the liberal west to actually acknowledge that islam has a problem at it's heart, rather than burying our heads in the sand and blaming the problem on anything but islam. That will allow moderate muslims to voice their fears about what's going on and then we can slowly work towards a solution.

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where do these moderate Muslims live [it's never near the nutters is it ] or is that they secretly support them and turn a blind eye in the name of ...ali snackbar n that .

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How do you think most plots including the most recent one are foiled, it's because friends and family get involved and inform the authorities. If anyone is turning a blind eye it's the prison service that allow vulnerable, impressionable young men lacking confidence, direction and a sense of belonging convert to Islam for better food and conditions and watch them slowly become radicalised. We could do something about it but it'd cost money and not only don't we like spending it we also like to sell everything of so don't expect those private companies that do it so much better than the public sector to spend a penny piece they don't have to addressing the problem, not when it's far easier to blame the community for turning a blind eye.

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What did Stalin call them, useful idiots

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What I'm saying is there needs to be a change in islam if it is to continue in western countries lets not pretend that extremism is the only issue with islam. There needs to be an acknowledgement within islam that the problem exists and if they can't resolve it they need to accept help in resolving it and we need to stop making excuses when things happen in case we offend someone. We are spending so much time and effort trying not to offend this group and that group that sod all gets done and if we are not careful we will politically correct ourselves out of existence.

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But Islam is not one homogenous group - like Christianity, no one person/group speaks for, or represents, the religion.

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seems it's represented by terrorism in all corners of the globe .

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Glib, but not addressing the actual point I made...

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I'm not a muslim and being honest I don't really care about the inner workings of islam i just want it to peacefully coexist or stick to it's traditional geographical areas and we stick to ours i definately don't want to see anymore dead because of it. Yes i am aware that western politicians have done a great job of sticking their noses where they don't belong but it's got to stop at some point might as well be now.

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it strikes me when there's some moaning to do the Muslim faith[islam] seems well represented and the Muslim[islamic] community that they keep banging on about is well represented , then when an atrocity is committed in their name no one is accountable because they have no representatives :shrug:

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You seem to be confusing people who are Islamic and speak out about things with the whole of Islam - that's like saying the Westboro Baptist Church, the KKK, and the Reverend Ian Paisley represent The whole of Christianity.

Or that Harold Shipman represents all doctors.

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nicely done but the problem is too big to sweep under the rug anymore