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bolgerp 30-11-2016 12:24

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
This might be a really silly question so apologies (I am relatively new to Virgin)... however, If I wanted to put a second V6 box in my bedroom, will I need to have a cable junction there or can I run the V6 box just over WiFi using the master one in the living room? In other words will it work in the same way as Sky Q/Sky Mini? I don't suppose there's anyway to cast the TV Anywhere app to my TV in the bedroom using my Roku?

RB2004 30-11-2016 12:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35872682)
TO be fair on VM, I've only had 1 Tivo box fail, my V+HD and VHD boxes have all worked faultlessly. The only niggle I have is the speed of the Tivo, but that's for everyone.

Hopefully V6 is just as reliable.

I never hardly had any boxes fail originally.

I was always an early adopter and got brand new boxes which lasted years.

like ive got 3x TiVo boxes at the moment, 2 are the exact same boxes I have had since 2012.

But end of last year the one in lounge failed, it was replaced via self install. it was a refurb box.

It lasted 6 months then hard drive failed in it, VM refused to send me another self install because they implied it was suspicious it hadn't lasted long.

They came out, found nothing suspicious and replaced it... and ever since this new box also has an iffy hard drive, it keeps clicking away. so just expecting 1 day to wake up and find it dead then go through the arguments again about whether its a dud refurb box or if its something they think ive done.

But the V+ boxes, I had the silver original one from day 1 and still have it boxed up as it was replaced. and the 2nd black one I took failed once and was replaced by TiVo early on after TiVo launch as an upsell.

Just have never had issues with new boxes really, but this TiVo box im now on number 3 and its iffy... only thing is the last 2 have been refurbs rather than new.

BenMcr 30-11-2016 12:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bolgerp (Post 35872710)
This might be a really silly question so apologies (I am relatively new to Virgin)... however, If I wanted to put a second V6 box in my bedroom, will I need to have a cable junction there or can I run the V6 box just over WiFi using the master one in the living room? In other words will it work in the same way as Sky Q/Sky Mini? I don't suppose there's anyway to cast the TV Anywhere app to my TV in the bedroom using my Roku?

The V6 will still require a coax connection.

bolgerp 30-11-2016 12:35

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35872713)
The V6 will still require a coax connection.

Poop.....

MisterQ 30-11-2016 12:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bolgerp (Post 35872714)
Poop.....

Plus you also need internet, wi-fi or otherwise because it is not built in like the old box. :mad:

RB2004 30-11-2016 12:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35872699)
Well l am pretty sure if Virgin could have got it they would of UC.

Probabaly haven't been refused, don't think they are allowed to refuse under competition rules.

However, what they probabaly do is set the price at a sufficiently high enough price that VM say that it doesn't offer good value for the subscriber.

Remember years ago when there was the debacle with Sky One? and VM lost it because they was unwilling to pay the price hike?

denphone 30-11-2016 12:45

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
And Sky and BT know by setting those high carriage prices for high end niche products no company with decent business sense is going to pay those extortionate carriage rates as l certainly would not.

Sky came unstuck over the Sky Basics debacle as it hit them just as much as it hit Virgin.

RichardCoulter 30-11-2016 12:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by DiveSheep (Post 35872614)
Surely most 4K TV's have Netflix and Youtube built in so what's the point of 4K on V6 if it's not for Sky Cinema, Sky Sports and/or BT Sports?

It will make things more convenient and tidier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35872641)
All l can see regarding the pricing is apparently on Virgin's website.

(£54.99 fees).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bofrok (Post 35872642)
Storage The Virgin TV V6 box comes with 1TB of storage allowing 500 hours of SD recordings or 100 hours of HD recordings. Every additional Virgin TV V6 box installed will add another 1TB to the overall storage in the home and the ability to record six more programmes simultaneously.


Pricing

Pricing for the Virgin TV V6 box is simple, transparent and will not incur additional monthly subscription fees.


The new state of the art box will be available to existing customers on a Mix bundle or higher, before the end of the year. Existing customers will not need to change package to benefit.

Looks to be some confusion over what this will cost.

As it looks like there is only one size, 1TB, unless you record a lot at once, have a 4K TV or want to stream things around the house, I can see many sticking with their old TiVo for now (especially since the speed issue has improved).

albertsteptoe 30-11-2016 12:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Hello all. just a quick question about new box, no scart socket, so dose that mean I wont be able to burn my fav shows on to disc, this is why I came back to virgin for the TiVo box, I have sky q silver but cant record onto disc with that.

MisterQ 30-11-2016 12:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35872718)
It will make things more convenient and tidier.



(£54.99 fees).



Looks to be some confusion over what this will cost.

As it looks like there is only one size, 1TB, unless you record a lot at once, have a 4K TV or want to stream things around the house, I can see many sticking with their old TiVo for now (especially since the speed issue has improved).

Or switch to Sky, if they are fed up with the old box (which is still excruciatingly slow despite the latest attempt to fix it) and the new "state of the art game changer" does not provide what they were hoping for.

anap 30-11-2016 13:00

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35872718)
As it looks like there is only one size, 1TB, unless you record a lot at once, have a 4K TV or want to stream things around the house, I can see many sticking with their old TiVo for now (especially since the speed issue has improved).



I don't know where you got that from. Mine certainly hasn't.

mike_gain 30-11-2016 13:02

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35872696)
Yeah, but people do still have TVs in other rooms and putting a whole TiVo in there is overkill. Even TiVo moved away from that model several years ago.

I don't disagree, all I was suggesting is that the VM approach to multi room seems to be more aimed at 3rd party devices/Telly Tablet as opposed to mini tivos. Personally I wouldn't be against satellite tivos as I've got 3 TVs in every room that I want one.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35872718)

Looks to be some confusion over what this will cost.

Cost seemed pretty clear to me either £50 or £100 one off cost with no monthly cost.

DiveSheep 30-11-2016 13:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35872699)
Well l am pretty sure if Virgin could have got it they would of UC.

David Bouchier said "We would quite happily put the 4K football matches on if we felt that this was something that our customers were saying."
Implying that VM can provide it but have chosen not to for the time being. If the demand is there, perhaps they'll look to do a deal - if they haven't already. Therefore, some of us are simply voicing that we would like to see it as an option.

jcm193 30-11-2016 13:05

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35872717)
And Sky and BT know by setting those high carriage prices for high end niche products no company with decent business sense is going to pay those extortionate carriage rates as l certainly would not.

Releasing a 4K compatible box with no 4K apart from YouTube and Netflix when is available is ridiculous not to mention that they're expecting people to pay up to £99 for the privilege, I paid a premium for my sky Q silver box because I knew I could get 4K on it how can virgin justify charging £99 for an inferior product. Why can`t virgin use the fees from customers who want the V6 and put that towards the cost of carrying the sky`s 4K content.

If it available to virgin at a cost they should be doing everything to get it sooner rather than later

RichardCoulter 30-11-2016 13:12

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35872650)
It must surely be aimed at people who don't already have a handheld device or multiple TVs. I guess it's a way to combat the satellite SKY Q boxes but making it even more flexible. WIth Sky Q you need to have a telly set up....this thing could go into any room. Ideal for occasional 2nd TV viewing.

But for those with tablets already they may be just as happy to use those. But it does give options to those not wanting to invest in a permanent 2nd TV I guess. But price is very important with this.

I won't be buying one at £299!

As the VM Telly Tablet is Android though, perhaps this means that those of us with Android tablets will now be able to stream from the box and use TV Anywhere??

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Originally Posted by anap (Post 35872721)
I don't know where you got that from. Mine certainly hasn't.

Only from posts on here, AIUI, the new update hasn't been rolled out everywhere yet.

More information here:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/s...php?t=33703976

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35872722)
Cost seemed pretty clear to me either £50 or £100 one off cost with no monthly cost.

The VM website has been (and still is) saying one off fees of £54.99.

Worth pointing out that there is no extra monthly cost, the usual TiVo monthly fee will still apply.


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