Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35897364)

It very, very obvious that our European cousins have learn't nothing about the British or how we think.

We will not be threatened or bullied and to do so will only strengthen our resolve. They are not being clever They are playing into Theresa Mays hands, and she is capitilising on it with her speech today.

Regardless of political persuasion no British person will take being threatened by Europe, and they would rather display the middle finger than acquiesce to unreasonable demands.

They should take the threat of us walking away in the face of unreasonable demands very seriously because I believe if it came to it May would have the support of the people, rather than bend down and take it in a fashion that Tim Farrons would deem sinful.

And all those remainers and Europhiles, do you not yet see the true EU? We dare defy them and they would rather see us all burn than try and do sensible deal that works for both.

I guarantee if this fails to work it will because of the EU. I hope they see sense and start replacing some of their nonces like Juncker with sensible diplomats.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35897360)

Think you are very wrong on that one Mick.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35897368)

Instead of whinging about me posting "other people's opinions", why don't you try assuming it was a useful contribution to the discussion and try reading it? It presents a clear argument that there is no legal basis for the EU to demand any money, and this week's shenanigans are best explained by them finally realising that the process of getting even one penny out of us is a political, not a legal, process.

Anything we pay, will be a goodwill payment on our part, and - if we pay anything - it will be far, far short of any figure they have touted so far.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35897370)

Legal or not, assuming we want to trade with the EU post Brexit, we need to keep them onside. May's rhetoric over the last week has been damaging to the country's future. She's played the wrong card, the EU can survive without us, where as we'll struggle if we don't get a decent deal.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35897372)

She's played precisely the right card. The EU needs to know we're serious. There's also the small matter of a general election, and her obvious calculation that there are votes in it.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35897367)

Yes, we'll fight them on the beaches etc etc. Times have moved on. By ourselves we're very little as we'll soon find out.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35897370)

Legal or not, assuming we want to trade with the EU post Brexitl.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35897372)

She's played precisely the right card. The EU needs to know we're serious.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35897372)

She's played precisely the right card. The EU needs to know we're serious. There's also the small matter of a general election, and her obvious calculation that there are votes in it.

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35897387)

We didn't fight and lose so many during WW2 to take this kind of threat from Europe.

Germany/France the real hench men of all the nations they say what happens the rest follow.

We have been the 2nd biggest contributer to the EU. you really think they want to lose 8.6bn a year. They are worried a lot for **** will come our way and we need to stand our ground.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35897370)

Legal or not, assuming we want to trade with the EU post Brexit, we need to keep them onside. May's rhetoric over the last week has been damaging to the country's future. She's played the wrong card, the EU can survive without us, where as we'll struggle if we don't get a decent deal.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35897390)

We're the eight largest net EU contributor apparently. I thought we were higher too. https://inews.co.uk/explainers/chart...much-get-back/

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35897391)

Absolute BS. You just don't know when to stop with it do you?

The EU would not survive with a no deal and no we don't need to keep those imbeciles on side at .

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35897383)

Theresa May's posturing fools the inevitable sheep .