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kronas
24-12-2003, 04:40
ok i know i have been asking for alot of help recently in my other thread for which i am really greatful for i am determined to get somewhere in my life and im going to push for a job somewhere i have seen a few jobs on the net near my area but i need help with the CV

so does anyone have any templates or handy pointers as to what i could put on it ?

i can put stuff like i am hard working proffesional etc but when it comes down to qualifications and past achievements things are well a bit bare :erm:

thanks in advance :)

Jon M
24-12-2003, 09:02
Template wise, my CV looked a lot better after my missus took a hatchet to it.
She used to screen and re-format CV's for her job..

take a look at it if you like :
http://files.s1lv3r.com/JMatthewsCV.doc

Maroon
24-12-2003, 09:03
good luck

http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/getthejob/story/0,10393,540287,00.html

kronas
24-12-2003, 09:09
thanks guys much appreciated :) :wavey:

Nemesis
24-12-2003, 09:27
thanks guys much appreciated :) :wavey:
If you send it to me, I'll take a look at it .. :tu:

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 09:31
ok i know i have been asking for alot of help recently in my other thread for which i am really greatful for i am determined to get somewhere in my life and im going to push for a job somewhere i have seen a few jobs on the net near my area but i need help with the CV

so does anyone have any templates or handy pointers as to what i could put on it ?

i can put stuff like i am hard working proffesional etc but when it comes down to qualifications and past achievements things are well a bit bare :erm:

thanks in advance :)


dont lie on your c.v. is the first thing to do , not that i am saying you would :) , and whatever you do , make sure you read and read and read it so you dont trip yourself up if they ask you a question regarding it :tu: , sorry but you cant add summat you aint got , tell the truth and try to impress at an interview , you never know if you come across as honest you might have a chance , people who lie always get caught out :(

Scarlett
24-12-2003, 09:40
thanks guys much appreciated :) :wavey:

I've found this to be useful in the past
CV advice (http://www.outsource-uk.co.uk/cv.html) also if your looking registering with recruitment sites on line I'd change you CV each week, it could be something as small as changing the layout. Each time the new CV is uploaded it will be sent out to all the agencies registered.

The only other suggestion that I can make is to push for feedback on your CV and, more importantly, in interviews. Then Learn from your mistakes.

Finally, don't be afraid to blow your own trumpet, no one else is there to do it for you. You might feel like an arrogant sod but if it gets you the interview...

Scarlett.

p.s. this process took me 6 months last time round! At least this time I have some relevent experience.

kronas
24-12-2003, 09:54
I've found this to be useful in the past
CV advice (http://www.outsource-uk.co.uk/cv.html) also if your looking registering with recruitment sites on line I'd change you CV each week, it could be something as small as changing the layout. Each time the new CV is uploaded it will be sent out to all the agencies registered.

The only other suggestion that I can make is to push for feedback on your CV and, more importantly, in interviews. Then Learn from your mistakes.

Finally, don't be afraid to blow your own trumpet, no one else is there to do it for you. You might feel like an arrogant sod but if it gets you the interview...

Scarlett.

p.s. this process took me 6 months last time round! At least this time I have some relevent experience.

thanks for the advice i will be looking to add an air of arrogance to my cv i can bowl people over on an oral interview i have had a few on other things a while ago and they were highly impressed with my attitude and presentation that i showed that was just me talking i hope i can recreate that

dont lie on your c.v. is the first thing to do , not that i am saying you would :) , and whatever you do , make sure you read and read and read it so you dont trip yourself up if they ask you a question regarding it :tu: , sorry but you cant add summat you aint got , tell the truth and try to impress at an interview , you never know if you come across as honest you might have a chance , people who lie always get caught out :(

im not going to lie thats not me im honest too honest at times :(

this is a quick rushed layout obviously its rough i just find it hard to fill it with words on past achievements qualifications........

Nemesis
24-12-2003, 10:02
Kronas ...

DONT put photo's in a CV unless asked too ....

here's a blank template from mine, use if you want to

kronas
24-12-2003, 10:04
Kronas ...

DONT put photo's in a CV unless asked too ....

here's a blank template from mine, use if you want to


ok but the problem is i have nothing to show for with regards to qualifications past job experiance so its going to be short really.....

Nemesis
24-12-2003, 10:10
ok but the problem is i have nothing to show for with regards to qualifications past job experiance so its going to be short really.....
Anything you have done before will count as experience, from little jobs to Volunteer work etc

School will have taught you a fair amount .... and it may be time to reconsider college.

kronas
24-12-2003, 10:12
School will have taught you a fair amount .... and it may be time to reconsider college.

i tried twice but my health failed me but ill try and type something up and post back

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 10:15
Kronas ...

DONT put photo's in a CV unless asked too ....

here's a blank template from mine, use if you want to



constructive criticism time here , ive always thought c.v's looked better if done in chronological order , i.e. personal details , education -- school then further , then employment history , just my thoughts only :angel: :)


@ kronas if it is short then it is short you cant add stuff you aint got , no way around that really :(

Nemesis
24-12-2003, 10:18
constructive criticism time here , ive always thought c.v's looked better if done in chronological order , i.e. personal details , education -- school then further , then employment history , just my thoughts only :angel: :)


@ kronas if it is short then it is short you cant add stuff you aint got , no way around that really :(
No probs, all criticism on CV's is positive :D

I may be older but am still willing to learn :D

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 10:26
kronas , just thinking , im assuming you arent working now , i know what you said about college and your health but have you thought about some home based learning ?????????? , if you are on benefits then maybe you could get some financial help towards it and be able to do it at your own pace , just a thought :)

kronas
24-12-2003, 10:48
kronas , just thinking , im assuming you arent working now , i know what you said about college and your health but have you thought about some home based learning ?????????? , if you are on benefits then maybe you could get some financial help towards it and be able to do it at your own pace , just a thought :)


home based learning is expensive.........

here is what i could come up with

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 10:52
have a play about with nemesis's template and see what it looks like , i appreciate home based learning is expensive but have you looked into financial help for it ???????????? :)

Chris
24-12-2003, 11:05
home based learning is expensive.........

here is what i could come up with
Formal qualifications really ought to be top of your CV, until you have a few years' experience in the workplace when you can put that at the top instead, and move your education downwards in the list. I don't know your full background but it sounds from your posts that college and you didn't get along ... but did you get some GCSEs? If you did, say what they were and what grades, especially maths and English. If you didn't get reasonable grades in these two, you will find it hard to get many of the jobs you might be interested in, no matter how good your CV looks. If this is the case, think very seriously indeed about getting some qualifications while you're still young enough to get a place at college without it costing you an arm and a leg.

A piece of advice I see repeated all over the place is never use the word 'socialising' in a CV. Apparently employers mentally translate this as 'boring person with no particular interests or hobbies'. This may well be untrue, but they don't know you and have nothing else to go on.

Finally, I know we joke about it in the forum a lot, but your spelling, grammar and punctuation really does have to be absolutely spot on. A potential employer will make a judgement of your standard of education, your intelligence and your ability to present yourself based entirely on what you write on that little piece of paper so it has to be right. There are professional proof reading services, although any number of us on here would be happy to help on that score.

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 11:10
kronas , i have just been doing some digging about on google and there is definitely help available with course fees for home based learning if you look for it , as towny has just said it is worth thinking about while you are still young and your brain can cope with it , i wish i had done it before now , the way it looks for me is i am going to have to retrain and it aint gonna be easy :(

kronas
24-12-2003, 11:23
Formal qualifications really ought to be top of your CV, until you have a few years' experience in the workplace when you can put that at the top instead, and move your education downwards in the list. I don't know your full background but it sounds from your posts that college and you didn't get along ... but did you get some GCSEs? If you did, say what they were and what grades, especially maths and English. If you didn't get reasonable grades in these two, you will find it hard to get many of the jobs you might be interested in, no matter how good your CV looks. If this is the case, think very seriously indeed about getting some qualifications while you're still young enough to get a place at college without it costing you an arm and a leg.


i have nothing GCSE wise as i couldnt even attend high school for most of the time





A piece of advice I see repeated all over the place is never use the word 'socialising' in a CV. Apparently employers mentally translate this as 'boring person with no particular interests or hobbies'. This may well be untrue, but they don't know you and have nothing else to go on.


done and noted




Finally, I know we joke about it in the forum a lot, but your spelling, grammar and punctuation really does have to be absolutely spot on. A potential employer will make a judgement of your standard of education, your intelligence and your ability to present yourself based entirely on what you write on that little piece of paper so it has to be right. There are professional proof reading services, although any number of us on here would be happy to help on that score.

i know i have corrected it and here it is using nemesis's template

kronas
24-12-2003, 11:25
kronas , i have just been doing some digging about on google and there is definitely help available with course fees for home based learning if you look for it , as towny has just said it is worth thinking about while you are still young and your brain can cope with it , i wish i had done it before now , the way it looks for me is i am going to have to retrain and it aint gonna be easy :(


there is no chance i would be allowed back in to college now but if i cant find a job and even if i do i may have to through the college root and rely on my health to let me breath for once :rolleyes:

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 12:22
just one point we have all missed , you may need to tailor your c.v. depending on what job you are looking , not much point in saying you are the number 1 IT guy in the world if you are gonna flip burgers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

kronas
24-12-2003, 12:25
just one point we have all missed , you may need to tailor your c.v. depending on what job you are looking , not much point in saying you are the number 1 IT guy in the world if you are gonna flip burgers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


your right pauline im thinking of doing something in customer services on the phones taking inbound calls you need to be IT letirate


i dont know what my niche is yet...........

*excuse my spelling i have not been to bed for 20 hours :rolleyes:

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 12:28
your right pauline im thinking of doing something in customer services on the phones taking inbound calls you need to be IT letirate


i dont know what my niche is yet...........

*excuse my spelling i have not been to bed for 20 hours :rolleyes:



pauline :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rofl:

Jerrek
24-12-2003, 17:22
I know jack about CVs, and I don't even have one. I do think though that what we consider a CV is different from what you do, and that your CV is equal to our resume.

Here is my resume. It is from a template from a person that got a _lot_ of interviews. An exceptional number of interviews actually, so I copied his style. http://home.cogeco.ca/~johannj/.personal/resume.doc

Also, don't say References available upon request. Attach them.

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 17:45
I know jack about CVs, and I don't even have one. I do think though that what we consider a CV is different from what you do, and that your CV is equal to our resume.

Here is my resume. It is from a template from a person that got a _lot_ of interviews. An exceptional number of interviews actually, so I copied his style. http://home.cogeco.ca/~johannj/.personal/resume.doc

Also, don't say References available upon request. Attach them.



not bad , but if you dont mind it is a little too canadian/american for our country , my opinion only , nice to see you helping out though , how much snow you got now ????????????? :)

Jerrek
24-12-2003, 19:10
How is it a little too Canadian? :D (I'll take that as a complement, lol)

paulyoung666
24-12-2003, 19:14
How is it a little too Canadian? :D (I'll take that as a complement, lol)



it in my opinion isnt the way c.v.'s are done over here is what i meant , no offence meant at all , mind you , just one thing i am curious about is the personal details contained in it , are they yours or someone elses ??????????? :)

Jerrek
24-12-2003, 19:20
It is my resume.

I noticed you guys add maritial status and nationality... Those are incredibly big NO NOs over here.

lemarsh
24-12-2003, 19:28
One thing I spotted on your CV.

Try to keep 'like minded things' together (e.g. Applications, operating system, and then Build & Configure).

Add actual programmes (e.g. Excel, Powerpoint etc) Looks better than 'Other Applications'.

Personally, Centered Text does not look right, when you have Left Margins

Escapee
25-12-2003, 12:20
constructive criticism time here , ive always thought c.v's looked better if done in chronological order , i.e. personal details , education -- school then further , then employment history , just my thoughts only :angel: :)


@ kronas if it is short then it is short you cant add stuff you aint got , no way around that really :(

I think layout to suit one person would not be the best for another.

Personal details at the top evrytime, but I think someone who has lots of qualifications and zero experience should have school and qualifications after the personal details. I always put qualifications towards the end because I dont have a Degree, many HR departments have a narrow view when it comes to recruiting and for technical positions would simply throw the ones without a degree straight in the bin.

I played this one with my current job, although I usually undersell myself. They told me that they looked at my CV and were impressed with my achievement and skills, only after they had decided that I was worth an interview did they start looking at my qualifications and realise I didn't have a degree! It's a regular occurance to get people with degrees come up and ask silly questions because some things can only be learnt out in the big wide world.

I think the best boost to getting yourself into gear for writing a CV, is to view ones that collegues or past aquaintances have written. I have often wondered who they are describing when seeing their CV's.

Best of luck Kronas, go on get out there and sell yourself.