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marina suggested a while ago i might have MS im progressively in agreement, im just looking at wiki and out of all the symptoms i get the following:
The most common initial symptoms reported are: changes in sensation in the arms, legs or face complete or partial vision loss (optic neuritis) weakness double vision unsteadiness when walking and balance problems
flickering eye movements,speech difficulties, tremor (always had that), clumsiness of the hands, abnormal muscle spasms, and bladder and bowel difficulties,difficulty following detailed instructions, loss of short term memory, emotional instability, and fatigue clinical depression, is a product of both causes. Feelings such as anger, anxiety, frustration, and hopelessness are also common, and suicide is a very real threat pain in one eye, followed by blurry vision Individuals typically develop rapid onset of numbness, weakness, bowel or bladder dysfunction, and/or loss of muscle function, typically in the lower half of the body
this also applies to me:
Infections, such as the common cold, influenza, and gastroenteritis, increase the risk for a relapse. Emotional and physical stress may also trigger an attack
i often complain of pains in the back sometimes or arms, even at the top of my head....
i also get flashing long like worms infront of my eyes.....
also if im standing up, or walking i feel like the ground is moving and loose balance and fall to the side, i have to lean on something, it freaks me out...
what do you all think i should do...
Kronas
In one of your other threads 'im out of it' you said you were going to the hospital on the 3rd of August, is it to see about the symptoms you say you are experiencing? If not, I suggest you go along to your surgery and make an appointment for a full physical examination, then hopefully you will know once and for all if there is anything wrong with you.
Kronas
In one of your other threads 'im out of it' you said you were going to the hospital on the 3rd of August, is it to see about the symptoms you say you are experiencing? If not, I suggest you go along to your surgery and make an appointment for a full physical examination, then hopefully you will know once and for all if there is anything wrong with you.
Sound like a good plan ;)
timewarrior2001
30-07-2006, 10:37
marina suggested a while ago i might have MS im progressively in agreement, im just looking at wiki and out of all the symptoms i get the following:
this also applies to me:
i often complain of pains in the back sometimes or arms, even at the top of my head....
i also get flashing long like worms infront of my eyes.....
also if im standing up, or walking i feel like the ground is moving and loose balance and fall to the side, i have to lean on something, it freaks me out...
what do you all think i should do...
Personally Kornas, I think you should stop worrying about your health and try and concentrate on getting over the depression.
No wonder your depressed when people tell you they think you have stuff like MS.
I get a lot of those symptoms and there is NOTHING at allk showing up on my tests, apart from a slight problem with my liver.
I get flashing lights, dizzines, pain in my lower back, pins and needles in my arms and legs. These things happen Kronas.
Dont convince yourself you have MS because you have some of the symptoms, thats like saying you have lung cancer because you have a cough.
Your collection of symptoms would be an atypical way for MS to present.....
MovedGoalPosts
30-07-2006, 11:44
Most of those symptoms I get every morning, after a heavy night before :p:
With all due respect Kronas, I'm not convinced that trying to diagnose your wellbeing on a forum is actually helping you. All it does in fact is creates more stress and worry for you, as someone else comes up with another possible problem. We've seen this before, and no doubt will again. It's why many forums won't even allow the discussion of anything medical.
You need proper professional diagnosis and care. You, or if you aren't up to it, a parent, or other person close to you, needs to go with you to your doctor and force their hand to make them see this is serious and needs proper attention.
You ask in your post what you should do, go see your doctor, that is the best advice I can give and also read Robs post above as it makes a lot of sense
hinoeuma
30-07-2006, 12:48
marina suggested a while ago i might have MS im progressively in agreement, im just looking at wiki and out of all the symptoms i get the following:
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Kronas..... apologies for not waiting for your email reply but you have to understand that i just couldn't, given the circumstances.
You say that i suggested to you that you might have MS........ now i can't remember ever saying that to you, either online or in person. If you'd mentioned having neurological symptoms, i may have said that sometimes these can lead to a diagnosis of a neurological condition e.g MS etc. I probably also said that negative results in clinical tests can also prove to be misleading, in that they one can have the early stages of a neurological condition and not show.
I am not a doctor and have never claimed to be, although i have suggested possibilities and getting professional opinions based on my own experience and knowledge.
I really wish you'd emailed me first, instead of posting on here and mentioning my name in this way :( There are at least two people on this forum who have MS, one who you have the email address for, and if you had any concerns, it might have helped to contact them.
Apart from that, out of the symptoms that you've quoted from wiki, if you'd had optic neuritis, it would have been so debilitating that you would have been seen by a doctor for it, but then perhaps you have. Unexplained pain, weakness in limbs or paresthesia obviously should be checked........ since they can be linked to hundreds of different medical conditions....... as the others say, if you're worried....... see a doctor.
I'm sorry kronas...... you HAD to go and mention my name....... although it could possibly be another m***** that you know..... in which case, apologies and.......... err......... oops.
Kronas, I would echo Rob C's advice to you. You need to concentrate on relaxing and improving your depression. You really should be involving yourself with your GP if you aren't already.
Your collection of symptoms would be an atypical way for MS to present.....My bad, forget I said that m8....posted in a rush without reading your post (just went on your past symptoms that you have described) :dunce:
i apologise to marina if it was not her, i cant remember who it was but it was a while ago....
more to follow
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Kronas
In one of your other threads 'im out of it' you said you were going to the hospital on the 3rd of August, is it to see about the symptoms you say you are experiencing? If not, I suggest you go along to your surgery and make an appointment for a full physical examination, then hopefully you will know once and for all if there is anything wrong with you.
i actually got an earlier appointment last week, nothing has changed, apart from the medication....
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Most of those symptoms I get every morning, after a heavy night before :p:
With all due respect Kronas, I'm not convinced that trying to diagnose your wellbeing on a forum is actually helping you. All it does in fact is creates more stress and worry for you, as someone else comes up with another possible problem. We've seen this before, and no doubt will again. It's why many forums won't even allow the discussion of anything medical.
You need proper professional diagnosis and care. You, or if you aren't up to it, a parent, or other person close to you, needs to go with you to your doctor and force their hand to make them see this is serious and needs proper attention.
i understand, its just my GP is a bit of git, im going to see him this week, if i get an appointment and tell him, i know its not a useful to get diagnosis, but i was just looking for opinions really, before i shoot my mouth off..
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Kronas..... apologies for not waiting for your email reply but you have to understand that i just couldn't, given the circumstances.
sorry been at hospital, so could only reply now, check your email or pm me.
You say that i suggested to you that you might have MS........ now i can't remember ever saying that to you, either online or in person. If you'd mentioned having neurological symptoms, i may have said that sometimes these can lead to a diagnosis of a neurological condition e.g MS etc. I probably also said that negative results in clinical tests can also prove to be misleading, in that they one can have the early stages of a neurological condition and not show.
yes thats correct, i think thats whats happened, i may have slightly misinterpreted what you had said, maybe we can meet up sometime in the next few months, then i can show you how much i miss you, how sorry i am for the confusion. :)
I am not a doctor and have never claimed to be, although i have suggested possibilities and getting professional opinions based on my own experience and knowledge.
if you could do...
I really wish you'd emailed me first,
i did not want to bug you really :(
instead of posting on here and mentioning my name in this way :( There are at least two people on this forum who have MS, one who you have the email address for, and if you had any concerns, it might have helped to contact them.
again i can only apologise.
Apart from that, out of the symptoms that you've quoted from wiki, if you'd had optic neuritis, it would have been so debilitating that you would have been seen by a doctor for it, but then perhaps you have. Unexplained pain, weakness in limbs or paresthesia obviously should be checked........ since they can be linked to hundreds of different medical conditions....... as the others say, if you're worried....... see a doctor.
i didnt see the name of the that condition just the pain in the eye bit..
I'm sorry kronas...... you HAD to go and mention my name....... although it could possibly be another m***** that you know..... in which case, apologies and.......... err......... oops.
pm me, message me, email me, ring me lol
Kronas I wouldn't say a damned word about what I suspected to a doctor.They will immediately get annoyed at your presumption in diagnosing your own case.They will also STILL have to investigate ALL possibilities just to be certain.If you go in saying what you think you have they will also automatically just think of you as a hypochondriac.:erm:
Just tell them your symptoms and let them do the diagnosing.They have the skills and qualifications on the whole that you do not.Then IF you are unhappy with the final diagnoses you can go for a second opinion.:tu:
Kronas - consider yourself Coggied!!
She's right though. As usual.
Kronas I wouldn't say a damned word about what I suspected to a doctor.They will immediately get annoyed at your presumption in diagnosing your own case.They will also STILL have to investigate ALL possibilities just to be certain.If you go in saying what you think you have they will also automatically just think of you as a hypochondriac.:erm:
thats what im afarid of, but im not getting anywhere, god i hope those two jobs i applied for i get them both :disturbd:
Just tell them your symptoms and let them do the diagnosing.They have the skills and qualifications on the whole that you do not.Then IF you are unhappy with the final diagnoses you can go for a second opinion.:tu:
well ill hopefully see my gp this week, i have to as i STILL have that stomach bug, whatever it is, it needs investigating, in the meantime, ill try changing diet again :disturbd:
timewarrior2001
30-07-2006, 20:35
thats what im afarid of, but im not getting anywhere, god i hope those two jobs i applied for i get them both :disturbd:
well ill hopefully see my gp this week, i have to as i STILL have that stomach bug, whatever it is, it needs investigating, in the meantime, ill try changing diet again :disturbd:
Ask yourself this Kronas.
If I sit around all day feeling ill, Will I feel ill?
If I do something with my time, if I go to the gymn, will I feel better?
Sitting around at home wondering what illnesses you have is a problem K matey. You really need to stop thinking like this, because if you dont your depression and despair are not going to go away.
I know its not easy, I was worried to death about swelling in my right testicle, I refused point blank to go to the doctors. It was on the third night without sleep with worry over it, I remembered crushing it when I got in the car. (I sat down awkward)
then there was the time I had a rash and a painfull neck, Well by the time I had sat and considered going to the doctor, everyhting was fine. Mainly because I didnt want to think about it, and mainly because even if I had something like meningitis there was no way in hell they were gonna do a spinal tap on me.
Just forget about it Krony, it really is not worth worrying about.
Have you had any blood tests recently? If not get some done. It will help put your mind at ease.
And if you dont get on with your GP, get another one, one you can trust.
i understand TW, im not 'worried' per se, im more concerned about whats happening to me, its 2:25am, ive taken my meds, im throwing up, pains in the stomach, uncomfortableness, i feel like my head is going to 'pop' i keep going to the ruddy toilet.... not to mention the blood coming up.
If there's blood coming up as you put it, then you should go to A+E and see a doc for sure. At least you'd get checked over, it's always best to be safe than sorry at the end of the day. You ain't wasting their time by going.
This is coming from someone who's now getting over a viral flu thing that's been hell, on top of poly-cystic kidneys, and liver, Crohn's Disease, some excruiciating muscular back prob cause by the Crohn's, one leg shorter than the other, a chunk of skull missing from the top of my head, suffer from regular migraines, Asthma, deaf in one ear and suffer terrible insomnia, apart from that I'm ok :D but I've had everything confirmed and I'm being looked after by a decent GP (change yours) and various specialists. By ignoring problems you only add more.
If there's blood coming up as you put it, then you should go to A+E and see a doc for sure. At least you'd get checked over, it's always best to be safe than sorry at the end of the day. You ain't wasting their time by going.
went there earlier on, the guy just felt my stomach and said take some gaviscon, parecetamol for the pain, just my luck....
TheDaddy
31-07-2006, 02:51
I am no doctor but is it wise to take parecetamol if you have thrown up blood? Still if the doctor was in full knowledge of the facts and still recommended it I am sure it will be fine.
I am no doctor but is it wise to take parecetamol if you have thrown up blood? Still if the doctor was in full knowledge of the facts and still recommended it I am sure it will be fine.
i told him everything, he just ummd and aahd, felt my stomach a few times and said it seems fine.
:shrug:
timewarrior2001
31-07-2006, 19:39
i understand TW, im not 'worried' per se, im more concerned about whats happening to me, its 2:25am, ive taken my meds, im throwing up, pains in the stomach, uncomfortableness, i feel like my head is going to 'pop' i keep going to the ruddy toilet.... not to mention the blood coming up.
Well if you keep being sick then blood is not unexpected, its so easy to burst a blood vessel with all the strain and pressure.
Same for the pains in the stomach. Head going pop could also be an effect.
But if its the meds doing it your on the wrong ones dude.
Prozac used to do that to me, i was so ill on that damned drug I was so relieved when mu GP took me off them cos I started having panic attacks.
Hey i suffer from stress and anxiety, I went through my own wedding without batting an eyelid.....its a piece of cake when you put your mind to it.
Kronas.
In all honesty we are not going to get to the bottom of all your symptoms on this thread. They are too diverse to lead to a conclusion on a forum. You know you have the support of many people on here, I'm sure that goes without saying. Supporting you on this journey is something we can do to help, proffering diagnoses isn’t.
In order to alleviate your worries and indeed symptoms the only way is to be systematic. The process is to consult your GP, ? specialist referral and follow their advice or treatment.
Now, you may have already done this I haven’t been following your story due to time constraints but I can see you mention being to hospital and A&E in this thread. If your relationship with your GP isn’t working then you are entitled to change them.
The best advice I can give you is to stop thinking about what is or isn’t happening to you. Look at relaxation methods and seek peace and quiet.
I think the focus of this thread should now be less on the medical advice and more on the support.
I am no doctor but is it wise to take parecetamol if you have thrown up blood? Still if the doctor was in full knowledge of the facts and still recommended it I am sure it will be fine.
It is fine it is Asprin he shouldn't take :)
You think too much. You need to take your mind off all of it and that might help. I mean worrying about your health can make you ill. If your sitting there looking up the symptoms of MS then it will scare the hell out of you which in turn would make you stressed, depressed, and even more ill.
Keep seeing professionals about your problems but find stuff to do in the meantime. Go for long walks or bike rides? Cinema? etc etc
byron_hinson
31-07-2006, 21:54
You sound like me from 2 years ago when I had bad depression, I had "symptoms" like those that were mostly just me and no illness. Go see the doctor, get your depression sorted out first!
thanks, all, i unerstand, im not 'looking' for illnesses, as for changing my GP i cannot do so, i went to another practice and they wont let me join as it its in the same town, now i cant travel out of town because im just too ill to move most of the time, i actually went out for a few hours and it felt ok, still felt like throwing up and damn gasses building up in my stomach but atleast the pain has subsided, paracetamol actually works!
Looks like you can change your GP, but can't necessarily force the new practice to take you: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/family_parent/health/frequently_asked_questions_about_health.htm#CanIch angemydoctor
hinoeuma
01-08-2006, 14:10
Changing GPs is relatively easy, but you do have to be within their catchment area......... I think Kronie's local PCT is North Kirklees and you can find another surgery that has it within their remit to take you on at http://www.northkirklees-pct.nhs.uk/
Obviously, they can refuse new registrants but it usually has to be for a legitimate reason.......... being registered at another local surgery isn't, as far as i'm aware but you may have to leave your orignal surgery formally........ and if the application has been refused, the refusal has to be made in writing http://www.nhs.uk/England/Doctors/RefuseAPatient.cmsx
If this happens and you're not happy with its decision, you can then complain to the PCT........
The NHS site is very useful generally http://www.nhs.uk/England/Doctors/Default.aspx
am i paranoid
Erm .... Yes ! :erm: (as are a few others it seems) :erm:
orangebird
01-08-2006, 16:15
I don't know about paranoia or MS, Munchausens more like... :erm:
carlingman
01-08-2006, 23:53
I don't know about paranoia or MS, Munchausens more like... :erm:
As many have said in previous posts I suggest we leave this to the GP/Hospital rather than start speculating and worrying Kronas further as aside from a few I doubt any of us are medically qualified or have the ability to diagnose a problem via a forum.
:angel:
thanks for your advice guys, as for me faking it i never would, the people who know whats going on that need to know do, they are the ones who can see behind my posts, my family, other people, if you decide to accept what i say or not its your perogative, id rather i get to the bottom of the stomach thing first, as it currently causes the most pain and annoyance.
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