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Is it just me that the sun ****ess off? I cannot stand that god dam paper!
And i cannot pin point why! HELP ME
You could try....not buying it?
Is it just me that the sun ****ess off? I cannot stand that god dam paper!
And i cannot pin point why! HELP MEBecause it's cr*p? :shrug:
You could try....not buying it?
I have to put up with looking at it and hearing people shout about stuff they have read in the apaper without any real understanding about the actual story. E.G. Asylum seekers
You could try...not looking at it?
Ok sorry, I'll stop now :disturbd:
What's really scary is the influence a paper like the Sun wields over voting patterns in elections. There are a lot of people who believe something just because it's 'in the papers', and a lot of them read the soaraway Sun. :disturbd:
Maybe this thread should be called "The Sun:Newspaper?".
:D
or
"The Sun. **** paper?"
What's really scary is the influence a paper like the Sun wields over voting patterns in elections. There are a lot of people who believe something just because it's 'in the papers', and a lot of them read the soaraway Sun. :disturbd:
I couldnt have put it better myself! well...i could but i cannot be arsed
Speaking as a northern lad, it gives me a warm glow inside to know that the Sun is the biggest selling paper in the South, although the Mirror, which usually outsells the Sun up here is not much better, don't read either.:(
deadite66
09-12-2003, 19:30
i think it's odd that the papers can be biased during an election yet the radio and tv channels arn't allowed to say anything likewise.
Maybe this thread should be called "The Sun:Newspaper?".
:D
What theyv'e started telling news ??? :shrug:
aliferste
09-12-2003, 19:55
I used to read The Sun all the time......after a while i couldnt be bothered with who was sleeping with who in the celebrity world....who cares about all that rubish when there is real problems going on in the world!!!
What i find scary is the fact that people form views on what they read in these tabloids and then take them as facts....
MetaWraith
09-12-2003, 20:32
What theyv'e started telling news ??? :shrug:
puts on top hat and tails,
picks up cane and goes into song and dance routine
Start spreading the news..................
What theyv'e started telling news ??? :shrug:
I doubt it..
Ah, a good old sun bashing thread - is there really so little else to talk about this week ......
Ah the Sun, handy if you end up in one of their readers houses ... and they're out of toilet roll.
aliferste
10-12-2003, 10:45
Ah, a good old sun bashing thread - is there really so little else to talk about this week ......
Obviously a Sun reader :)
Is it just me that the sun ****ess off? I cannot stand that god dam paper! And i cannot pin point why! HELP ME
The Sun! Is it a newspaper? It's just for morons.
:erm:
Dave Stones
10-12-2003, 11:26
The Sun! Is it a newspaper? It's just for morons.
:erm:
there are a huge amount of "morons" in this country then... :rolleyes:
and yes i am a sun reader *cough*
TigaSefi
10-12-2003, 11:27
Don't bash the Sun, it does a lot of good work.....like ....erm well I get back to you on that.....
EDIT: It printed a minging picture of Bovril Lasagne the other day :D
Sociable
10-12-2003, 11:42
Was musing the other day perhaps this thread should be merged with "In search of lost time" and the topic changed to "Great Works of Fiction". ;)
Dave Stones
10-12-2003, 12:27
Don't bash the Sun, it does a lot of good work.....like ....erm well I get back to you on that.....
EDIT: It printed a minging picture of Bovril Lasagne the other day :D
see, it does perform a public service :D
EDIT: It printed a minging picture of Bovril Lasagne the other day :D
Don't bring her into it. Kronas'll only go off on one..
Stuart W
10-12-2003, 12:35
No paper is better than any other paper, be it broadsheet or tabloid press.
The news in our country is increadibly heavily veted by our government, like most, if not all, countries.
The Sun is considered the 'working class' paper, along with The Mirror (who decided to drop the red and go black to try to hide it's roots), then we step in to the realms of papers like The Daily Mail which are 'middle class' papers and end up with papers like The Guardian and The Times for the upper classes.
Trouble is, they all talk crap.
My partner gets The Sun & I get The Guardian. Read both papers and you can see blatant inconsitencies in various news reports. Get hold of a few more papers and you find ever more inconsitencies.
It's easy to point the finger at the 'working class' Sun.
NOTE: I have tried to make this post with an un-biast view. My point is meerly that all the papers are crap.
Dave Stones
10-12-2003, 12:45
No paper is better than any other paper, be it broadsheet or tabloid press.
The news in our country is increadibly heavily veted by our government, like most, if not all, countries.
The Sun is considered the 'working class' paper, along with The Mirror (who decided to drop the red and go black to try to hide it's roots), then we step in to the realms of papers like The Daily Mail which are 'middle class' papers and end up with papers like The Guardian and The Times for the upper classes.
Trouble is, they all talk crap.
My partner gets The Sun & I get The Guardian. Read both papers and you can see blatant inconsitencies in various news reports. Get hold of a few more papers and you find ever more inconsitencies.
It's easy to point the finger at the 'working class' Sun.
NOTE: I have tried to make this post with an un-biast view. My point is meerly that all the papers are crap.
i tend to agree with that. people do seem to pick on the sun more because it is a redsheet, a la daily star and sport, which are complete bum-wipes... unless you like that sort of thing of course ;)
Sociable
10-12-2003, 13:07
i tend to agree with that. people do seem to pick on the sun more because it is a redsheet, a la daily star and sport, which are complete bum-wipes... unless you like that sort of thing of course ;)
They key thing to remember about ALL newspapers is that they are all only giving an "Interpretation" of the news from their own specific perspective.
We as readers need to learn to re-interpret what they say knowing where the "news" has come from and thereby form our own independent and informed judgements and opinions on the key matters of the day rather than simply accepting what any particular paper thinks we should think.
If the Sun, and others like the Mirror et al, have one fault it is that they try to do this latter job for thier readers and influence how news should be interpreted. Yes the broadsheets do the same but they are far more subtle in the way they do this.
They key thing to remember about ALL newspapers is that they are all only giving an "Interpretation" of the news from their own specific perspective. We as readers need to learn to re-interpret what they say knowing where the "news" has come from and thereby form our own independent and informed judgements and opinions on the key matters of the day rather than simply accepting what any particular paper thinks we should think. If the Sun, and others like the Mirror et al, have one fault it is that they try to do this latter job for thier readers and influence how news should be interpreted. Yes the broadsheets do the same but they are far more subtle in the way they do this.
Sociable, I agree with that synopsis. Perhaps The Sun, The Mirror and the News of the World (What a joke!) are probably designed to entertain, since tittle tattle and images of girls in various states of undress, in the News of the World's case under 18, are far more important than anything else.
Generally newspaper proprietors have their own axe to grind and of course editors must also join in you pays your money and takes your choice but in the end those with thinking minds can form their own opinions.
Steve W: The news in our country is increadibly heavily veted by our government, like most, if not all, countries.
What is veted? Can't find it the various dictionaries here am I missing something here? Is it a free CD?
:cool:
TigaSefi
10-12-2003, 14:02
I think he might mean "vetted" ?
SMHarman
10-12-2003, 14:37
i think it's odd that the papers can be biased during an election yet the radio and tv channels arn't allowed to say anything likewise.
No the public channels cannot be biased. The commercial channels must give equal weighting to party political broadcasts.
and in general to this thread
I read the Sun in the morning, the FT for lunch the Evening Standard in the evening and also look at Telegraph on Line and BBC on Line.
The Sun has views I agree with and also disagree with. The Littlejohn for PM campaign would be a fine idea IMHO. His rants against '5 a day coordinators' and other great jobs this government seems to create is great.
It is highly likely the sun throwing its and with it Mondeo mans weight behind new labour helped them to victory however they probably would have managed without it, and they do seem to have turned against Labour.
Sociable
10-12-2003, 14:50
Intersting extension of this was the TV news coverage up to and during the war in Iraq.
I ended up watching many of the CCTV reports (Chinese cable news channel) to get an unbiased analysis of what was going on.
As for Govt "vetting" of the news this is I suspect not that big an issue. One only has to look at the on-going arguements between them and the B.B.C. to reaslise they have little power to stop stories being published or broadcast.
What is perhaps more worrying is the continued use of "offical" leaks which are designed to mislead and confuse whilst giving them the possibility to later deny the report.
If nothing else the best hope for the future is that the general public has at long last learned to detect and mistrust "spin". Small wonder most of us have become so sceptical about anything we read or hear when it has come from an "Official" source be that Corporate or Govt.
TigaSefi
10-12-2003, 14:57
Littlejohn is excellent, he writes for the Daily Mail too and he has a program on Sky News and his views are normally spot on.he far too sensible to be a politician though.
Tigasefi: I think he might mean "vetted" ?
And there was me thinking I'd missed a free new CD by Kylie Minouge!
:wavey:
Obviously a Sun reader :)
As I think I have said elsewhere - I don't read any national newspapers.
Because it's cr*p? :shrug:
ive always hated the sun many of the newspapers/broadsheets are an absolute joke they contain pornographic images crass commentry stupid storys and overhyped ones at that
oh yes and the sun is s**** :rolleyes:
Atomic22
11-12-2003, 18:13
the sun is an enjoyable lighthearted read.....
it doesnt print politically correct socialist claptrap like papers such as the guardian etc.....
sports and tv news better than any other paper...
and its great to be frowned upon by people in forums who call us morons when they haven't a clue in their little heads about who we are and what happens in the big wide world....
as the saying goes...
"theres more of us than you"
aliferste
11-12-2003, 18:46
.......... who call us morons when they haven't a clue in their little heads about who we are and what happens in the big wide world....
as the saying goes...
"theres more of us than you"
ROFLMAO
Like what celeb is sleeping with who.......and the problems page
:scratch:
Wat wrong with the Sun,it only takes 2mins to read and the pictures are nice :o
Give me page 3 any day to Bush or Blair
Resistance is Futile
the sun is an enjoyable lighthearted read.....
it doesnt print politically correct socialist claptrap like papers such as the guardian etc.....
i find the guardian to be quite informative well what i see on its website some articles i happen to see are very much on the truthful side there no nonsense straight to the point tactic is what i like to see
sports and tv news better than any other paper...
and its great to be frowned upon by people in forums who call us morons when they haven't a clue in their little heads about who we are and what happens in the big wide world....
as the saying goes...
"theres more of us than you"
i see an emergence that tipifys the standard of reading these days (often) baseless articles with hype and dire commentry that should be left in an obscure local paper not to mention some of the pornographic material and 'entertainment' value it gives :rolleyes:
Wat wrong with the Sun,it only takes 2mins to read and the pictures are nice :o
Give me page 3 any day to Bush or Blair
Resistance is Futile
I didn't think they were allowed to show any bush on page 3 :naughty:
smicer07
15-12-2003, 07:55
If you know anything about Hillsborough, you wouldn't buy that rag anyway.
If you know anything about Hillsborough, you wouldn't buy that rag anyway.
Please do elaborate
Dave Stones
15-12-2003, 09:06
If you know anything about Hillsborough, you wouldn't buy that rag anyway.
having a scouse flatmate i am fully aware of the hillsborough stuff. he cant bring himself to buy the paper but i buy it ever day and he has absolutely no problem whatsoever reading it...
Please do elaborate
basically after the hillsboro' accident the sun said something along the lines of the liverpool fans were going around pickpocketing the bodies...
If you know anything about Hillsborough, you wouldn't buy that rag anyway.
Please do enlighten us.
Please do enlighten us.
The Sun ran a story after the Hillsborough Stadium disaster alleging that Liverpool football fans stole things from the bodies of those who had been killed. Sales of the Sun plummetted in Liverpool as a result and have never really recovered.
Littlejohn is excellent, he writes for the Daily Mail too and he has a program on Sky News and his views are normally spot on.he far too sensible to be a politician though.
He is a Joke, Thankfully there was a show on yesturday that showed a clip where littlejohn was talking about equal rights and was making smutty remarks to two lesbians only for micheal winner to confront him and the crowd cheering.
Littlejohn looked like he eated a wasp
basically after the hillsboro' accident the sun said something along the lines of the liverpool fans were going around pickpocketing the bodies...
This may sound bad, but was there any evidence of pickpocketing?
the sun is an enjoyable lighthearted read.....
it doesnt print politically correct socialist claptrap like papers such as the guardian etc.....
sports and tv news better than any other paper...
and its great to be frowned upon by people in forums who call us morons when they haven't a clue in their little heads about who we are and what happens in the big wide world....
as the saying goes...
"theres more of us than you"
Let me get this stright we dont now what is going on in the big wide world yet the sun does, the sun which thinks the Johhny wilkinson is more important that things in the middle east?
The Sun, which gives the facts in the way readers want them, without taking a objective view? and being bias in favour of what will sell more papers?
How on earth can anyone claim that the sun lets you know what happens in the big wide world?
Sports reporting is better in the telegraph or parhaps the times. But the suns is full of rumors instead of geniune reports. FOR GODS SAKE THEY SPENT WEEKS TALKING ABOUT BECKHAMS FOOT. IF YOU HONSTLY THINK THAT THE SUN IS OBJECTIVE AND TELL YOU THE TRUTH WHILE LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THE WORLD. THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
Dave Stones
15-12-2003, 09:19
This may sound bad, but was there any evidence of pickpocketing?
:shrugs: no idea. but it was the accusations that caused sales do go down like a lead balloon in liverpool..
The Sun ran a story after the Hillsborough Stadium disaster alleging that Liverpool football fans stole things from the bodies of those who had been killed. Sales of the Sun plummetted in Liverpool as a result and have never really recovered.
Really ? - did they offer any evidence to back this up ?
Really ? - did they offer any evidence to back this up ?
I don't remember the details now, but I think they offered a grovelling apology, which suggests that they didn't really have any evidence. I think they may have claimed to have spoken to people who claimed to have seen it happening.
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