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the preacher
30-06-2006, 09:17
I would like to know if you think it is worth while upgrading from 4 MB.

What are the Download speeds and Upload speeds like.

Graham M
30-06-2006, 09:19
Maximum download speeds you will get will be about 1.2mb/s
Maximum upload speeds you will see will be 50-60kb/s

Wether it is worth it or not all depends on what you will use it for (and from experience you may not always see maximum speeds especially if you have an older modem/set top box)

Oh and :welcome:

the preacher
30-06-2006, 09:22
that was a quick reply Thanks

how can i add a avatar to my profile please

Chris W
30-06-2006, 09:30
that was a quick reply Thanks

how can i add a avatar to my profile please

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/profile.php?do=editavatar

the preacher
30-06-2006, 09:34
Thanks for that

Am gonna upgrade to 10MB now and see if it is worth it

Done it .........will let you know what i think of it later

gonna have a play now

Thanks for your help.

Enuff
30-06-2006, 10:59
This is how slow and fast 10mb is for me this sunny morn... (17.53Mbps?) :confused:

Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:56:20 GMT

1st 512K took 3968 ms = 129 KB/sec, approx 1063 Kbps, 1.04 Mbps
2nd 512K took 235 ms = 2178.7 KB/sec, approx 17952 Kbps, 17.53 Mbps
3rd 512K took 922 ms = 555.3 KB/sec, approx 4576 Kbps, 4.47 Mbps
4th 512K took 843 ms = 607.4 KB/sec, approx 5005 Kbps, 4.89 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 7149 Kbps, 6.98 Mbps

BTW Preacher, Welcome, and enjoy your stay ;)

the preacher
30-06-2006, 13:33
10MB Broadband not bad.

downloads about 1000KB/sec
Uploads about 50 to 60KB/sec.

Wish i could have more upload speed though.

j_s2k4
01-07-2006, 14:47
Hey! right can someone help me, i really am sick of this :(

I rang ntl before, and they sent me to the technical broadband helpline and after 2 hours i have got nowhere

im paying 34.99 a month for the 10mb broadband, and they told me on their system i am showing up as having a 10mb line. however, im only getting a 3mb service, 340kb/s max ect. heres the config:
Network Access : Enabled
Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 3072000 bps
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 300000 bps
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm120_ntl0002.cpr
Software Upgrade AdminStatus : allowProvisioningUpgrade
Software Upgrade OperStatus : completeFromMgt

Im in salford, manchester. Also, when im downloading something on say.. abc bit torrent, the download will randomly stop, and i wont be able to acsess anything on the internet, and the only way to get it working again is to turn the power off to the PC and modem and switch them back on again.

its a ntl:home 120

can anyone please advise me?

SnoopZ
01-07-2006, 14:54
I'm assuming you have tried rebooting the modem?

In plug the power lead for 10 seconds then power it up again if you haven't.

If that doesn't work i expect someone who knows what the problem is will be able to help you out. But maybe not today with the football starting soon! :)

j_s2k4
01-07-2006, 15:01
thanks for trying, i only wish it was that simple. yeah ive tried it a few times, it solves the lock up issue but not the speed one., but when i says solves the lock up issue, it only solves it untill it crashes again...

Enuff
01-07-2006, 15:06
could be faulty modem, is it hooked up to a router?, if it is, see what happens when router is bypassed.

Druchii
01-07-2006, 15:06
thanks for trying, i only wish it was that simple. yeah ive tried it a few times, it solves the lock up issue but not the speed one., but when i says solves the lock up issue, it only solves it untill it crashes again... Is this a set top box?

j_s2k4
01-07-2006, 15:14
[quote=j

its a ntl:home 120[/quote]
:p hehe,

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/07/36.jpg

mmm
01-07-2006, 15:14
Hey! right can someone help me, i really am sick of this :(

I rang ntl before, and they sent me to the technical broadband helpline and after 2 hours i have got nowhere

im paying 34.99 a month for the 10mb broadband, and they told me on their system i am showing up as having a 10mb line. however, im only getting a 3mb service, 340kb/s max ect. heres the config:
Network Access : Enabled
Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 3072000 bps
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 300000 bps
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm120_ntl0002.cpr
Software Upgrade AdminStatus : allowProvisioningUpgrade
Software Upgrade OperStatus : completeFromMgt

Im in salford, manchester. Also, when im downloading something on say.. abc bit torrent, the download will randomly stop, and i wont be able to acsess anything on the internet, and the only way to get it working again is to turn the power off to the PC and modem and switch them back on again.

its a ntl:home 120

can anyone please advise me?


Are you using Zonealarm ? See other threads it seems ZA Pro limits speed to 3Mb, disabling doesn't help, it has to be uninstalled to remove the limit

j_s2k4
01-07-2006, 15:16
Are you using Zonealarm ? See other threads it seems ZA Pro limits speed to 3Mb, disabling doesn't help, it has to be uninstalled to remove the limit
again, thanks for your help but the rate on the modem is the actual thing limiting it to a 3mb, i dont use zone alarm, i have the windows firewall as that causes less problems, and ive booted with and without it with the same effect on bandwidth =)

mmm
01-07-2006, 15:20
I see what you mean, but ntl don't officially have a 3Mbps tier, try power cycling your modem again!

homealone
01-07-2006, 15:22
Are you using Zonealarm ? See other threads it seems ZA Pro limits speed to 3Mb, disabling doesn't help, it has to be uninstalled to remove the limit

ZA may affect the 'real' performance, but not the config file, which is clearly showing as 3meg - which I didn't know existed.

mine says

Network Access : Enabled
Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000 bps
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000 bps
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm100_ntl0001.cpr
Software Upgrade AdminStatus : allowProvisioningUpgrade
Software Upgrade OperStatus : completeFromProvisioning

- wheras the OP's config says 'completeFromMgt'

I'm wondering if this is a faulty modem, which isn't picking up the config file properly?

j_s2k4
01-07-2006, 15:36
ZA may affect the 'real' performance, but not the config file, which is clearly showing as 3meg - which I didn't know existed.

mine says

Network Access : Enabled
Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000 bps
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000 bps
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm100_ntl0001.cpr
Software Upgrade AdminStatus : allowProvisioningUpgrade
Software Upgrade OperStatus : completeFromProvisioning
- wheras the OP's config says 'completeFromMgt'

I'm wondering if this is a faulty modem, which isn't picking up the config file properly?

shame they dont have documentation on these things, but ill try and google other peoples restuls and see if that could be the problem

Stop It
01-07-2006, 16:54
shame they dont have documentation on these things, but ill try and google other peoples restuls and see if that could be the problem

Ring tech support, theres definately something wrong, looks like the modem didnt want to accept the config correctly, just say that youve checked your config and its set to 3meg, and ask if they can force it to 10.

Vegeta
02-07-2006, 00:10
Definately worth upgrading from 4mbit to 10mbit. I was getting 480 KB/s with 4mbit and now I get 1200 KB/s with 10mbit.

Chrysalis
02-07-2006, 15:04
a few times I have seen billing and actual service config out of synch with each other, I assume CS are just looking at the tier on your billing.

lenney
29-07-2006, 07:45
I never trust the speed test sites. I use ftp://ftp.blueyonder.co.uk.
I download on of the denbian ISO images from the public folder say 45Mbytes.

I get arround 8Mbit/s average. But this is an indication that the raw line is working Ok. Browsing and downloading for other sites is quite variable.

tucker61
29-07-2006, 08:58
Dont bother with 10 mb, When i was on 4 i used to get a constant 3.8mb. Now on 10 i get a very erratic 3 - 6 mb

Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:58:52 UTC

1st 512K took 922 ms = 555.3 KB/sec, approx 4576 Kbps, 4.47 Mbps
2nd 512K took 921 ms = 555.9 KB/sec, approx 4581 Kbps, 4.47 Mbps
3rd 512K took 901 ms = 568.3 KB/sec, approx 4683 Kbps, 4.57 Mbps
4th 512K took 942 ms = 543.5 KB/sec, approx 4478 Kbps, 4.37 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4580 Kbps, 4.47 Mbps

etccarmageddon
29-07-2006, 09:01
on 10meg I get around 6 to 8.

tuxs
29-07-2006, 11:00
Speeds Rock solid here In Woking On 10mbit
Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:58:05 GMT

1st 512K took 681 ms = 751.8 KB/sec, approx 6195 Kbps, 6.05 Mbps
2nd 512K took 390 ms = 1312.8 KB/sec, approx 10817 Kbps, 10.56 Mbps
3rd 512K took 311 ms = 1646.3 KB/sec, approx 13566 Kbps, 13.25 Mbps
4th 512K took 410 ms = 1248.8 KB/sec, approx 10290 Kbps, 10.05 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 10217 Kbps, 9.98 Mbps

i would go 10mb m8 :)



To repeat this test from the source server click here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.marsden/newspeedtest.html?1154167087880).

SnoopZ
29-07-2006, 14:12
Dont bother with 10 mb, When i was on 4 i used to get a constant 3.8mb. Now on 10 i get a very erratic 3 - 6 mb

Just because you don't get 10mb doesn't mean others can't.


Cambridge with NTL:250 modem....

Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:09:47 GMT

1st 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps
2nd 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps
3rd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9821 Kbps, 9.59 Mbps

Gareth
29-07-2006, 14:29
Dont bother with 10 mb, When i was on 4 i used to get a constant 3.8mb. Now on 10 i get a very erratic 3 - 6 mb

Just because you don't get 10mb doesn't mean others can't.Yep, I'd agree... I love my 10Mbit and would recommend it to others. At least give it a try, if your connection isn't what it should be then fair enuff, downgrade the package accordingly, but at least give it a go.

ps - don't think that I'm just another NTL fanboy who can't see anything wrong with anything NTL do, cause that definitely isn't the case. :angel: But as far as my broadband connection goes, they've been exceptionally reliable and the speed has always been top-notch. Although of course YMMV.

UncleBooBoo
29-07-2006, 14:36
Yep, I'd agree... I love my 10Mbit and would recommend it to others. At least give it a try, if your connection isn't what it should be then fair enuff, downgrade the package accordingly, but at least give it a go.

ps - don't think that I'm just another NTL fanboy who can't see anything wrong with anything NTL do, cause that definitely isn't the case. :angel: But as far as my broadband connection goes, they've been exceptionally reliable and the speed has always been top-notch. Although of course YMMV.

Well my opinion of the 10MB service is that it is crap!

But I would say give it a try, if your one of the very few people who can get 10MB then good luck to you!

Vegeta
29-07-2006, 17:02
I get close to the full 10mbit and I'm glad I got the service as 2mbit and 4mbit seem like dial-up now for downloads :D

Rik
29-07-2006, 20:53
10Meg is absolutely fantastic here, I quite merrily download from newsgroups at 1.18MB/s and it would go faster if it had the chance :D

A XVID movie in 10mins
A DVD movie in 1Hr :)

Of course I only download *LEGAL* material like the rest of us :D

I highly recommend it
Fantastic stuff youll never look back!!

SnoopZ
29-07-2006, 20:56
10Meg is absolutely fantastic here, I quite merrily download from newsgroups at 1.18MB/s and it would go faster if it had the chance :D

A XVID movie in 10mins
A DVD movie in 1Hr :)

Of course I only download *LEGAL* material like the rest of us :D

I highly recommend it
Fantastic stuff youll never look back!!

Couldn't of put it better myself. :tu: :D

etccarmageddon
29-07-2006, 20:57
7meg here - acceptable for someone who is paying £10 a month for it.

nfs6600
29-07-2006, 21:20
Spot on and always has been with every speed upgrade

Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:19:11 UTC

1st 512K took 484 ms = 1057.9 KB/sec, approx 8717 Kbps, 8.51 Mbps
2nd 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps
3rd 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
4th 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9329 Kbps, 9.11 Mbps

leicesteruser
30-07-2006, 08:49
According to the nthell speed test, I am only getting 9MB speed and itnerent explorer speed is not noticeably faster than when I had 1MB broadband from BT.

Is there any way I can speed the internet explorer and the overall internet speed? (I am running mcafee securitycenter)

etccarmageddon
30-07-2006, 09:34
it's probably because most sites you surf can only do 2meg anyway.

Zee
30-07-2006, 11:20
I'd go to 10Mbps connection ... sometimes it does have odd issues, but overall the performance is fantastic ...

Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:11:43 UTC

1st 512K took 62 ms = 8258.1 KB/sec, approx 68047 Kbps, 66.45 Mbps
2nd 512K took 328 ms = 1561 KB/sec, approx 12863 Kbps, 12.56 Mbps
3rd 512K took 468 ms = 1094 KB/sec, approx 9015 Kbps, 8.8 Mbps
4th 512K took 1218 ms = 420.4 KB/sec, approx 3464 Kbps, 3.38 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 23347 Kbps, 22.8 Mbps

I thought that was a little odd ... so i tried again, once again over 10Mbps

Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:14:33 UTC

1st 512K took 328 ms = 1561 KB/sec, approx 12863 Kbps, 12.56 Mbps
2nd 512K took 515 ms = 994.2 KB/sec, approx 8192 Kbps, 8 Mbps
3rd 512K took 266 ms = 1924.8 KB/sec, approx 15860 Kbps, 15.49 Mbps
4th 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 11637 Kbps, 11.37 Mbps

Tried again to verify ...

Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:17:07 UTC

1st 512K took 485 ms = 1055.7 KB/sec, approx 8699 Kbps, 8.5 Mbps
2nd 512K took 189 ms = 2709 KB/sec, approx 22322 Kbps, 21.8 Mbps
3rd 512K took 594 ms = 862 KB/sec, approx 7103 Kbps, 6.94 Mbps
4th 512K took 282 ms = 1815.6 KB/sec, approx 14961 Kbps, 14.61 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 13271 Kbps, 12.96 Mbps

SnoopZ
30-07-2006, 11:38
snip

You probably have to clear your cache.

Zee
30-07-2006, 11:42
You probably have to clear your cache.

Cleared Cache using CCleaner and Window Washer before i did the test.

If it was a cache issue all the results would be like 300Mbps

flint-y
10-08-2006, 22:01
Are there any coax cable splitters in your line? When i got ntl out to check my line, i had 3 splitters (each halving the bandwidth) and a couple of barrel joints in too, which also degraded performance. Try see if they've put a capacitor(could be the wrong word but i don't have one to look at) on the back of your modem too. Take anything out of the line besides nesesscary joints and this will stop you wasting your bandwidth.

Druchii
10-08-2006, 22:35
Are there any coax cable splitters in your line? When i got ntl out to check my line, i had 3 splitters (each halving the bandwidth) and a couple of barrel joints in too, which also degraded performance. Try see if they've put a capacitor(could be the wrong word but i don't have one to look at) on the back of your modem too. Take anything out of the line besides nesesscary joints and this will stop you wasting your bandwidth.
I think the word you are looking for is attenuator, and these are usually used to correct power levels i think.

flint-y
11-08-2006, 00:17
thats the one, but the second ntl guy said whoever put mine in was an idiot. The signal was more than adequate without it.

James Henry
11-08-2006, 10:51
it's probably because most sites you surf can only do 2meg anyway.


Really?

Not many sites that aren't at least on 10Mbit now, 100Mbit being most common. People rarely host sites on 2Mbit leased lines anymore, professional hosting is far cheaper.

---------- Post added at 10:51 ---------- Previous post was at 10:50 ----------

Are there any coax cable splitters in your line? When i got ntl out to check my line, i had 3 splitters (each halving the bandwidth) and a couple of barrel joints in too, which also degraded performance. Try see if they've put a capacitor(could be the wrong word but i don't have one to look at) on the back of your modem too. Take anything out of the line besides nesesscary joints and this will stop you wasting your bandwidth.

The splitters half the signal power not the bandwidth. So long as your signal power and quality is within an acceptable range bandwidth won't be affected.

As soon as it leaves that range though performance drops like a brick :)