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Hi, purchased one of these, 20 pounds.
When I set it up, i get all channels except ITV1 and Channel 4.
Also, all channels work perfectly except both BBC 1 and 2, which appear all 'blotchy', if you understand what i mean.
Is this a signal issue/ ariel problem, or is it more likely a tuning prob (set it up using the search feature)? http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/images/smilies/mad.gif
Many thanks!
Graham M
30-06-2006, 08:37
Sounds like a signal issue, ITV and 4 are 2 of the most difficult channels to pick up on a low signal, you COULD try a Freeview booster from Argos but there's no guarantee that it'll have any effect :)
Is something like this what you mean!?
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Is something like this what you mean!?
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5344228.htm
Graham M
30-06-2006, 08:54
Yep thats the one I have at home and it does help quite a bit
Are you sure you have the right rooftop aerial? You may need to have a wideband antenna to get all the Freeview channels properly. Also, what do the various online predictors say about whether you should be able to get coverage?
There is a very detailed predictor here:
http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe?
They appear to say that i should be able to receive it!
Also, i have brought one of these boxes for my home, but i have a really old TV!!
I am trying to use the RF Out port, which could connect into two white and two red ports called 'video' in the back of the TV.
Would this idea work, and if so, what cable to i need (one with 4 connectors on the end i think!) but not sure which one!
Apparently if your aerial is pointing to a repeater and not the actual transmitter, freeview rarely works. We had the same problem here.
Bought the indoor one4all booster aerial (the power loop one) from Argos for £17.99 - works a treat, get all channels without any breakup in signal.
edit: we have the exact same Sagem box (£20 from TJ's) :)
Do have a look at the reception predictor I linked in post 5. It will give detailed data on any transmitter, including fill-ins.
Yep, there are relatively few actual transmitters - about 49 by my count. Look for the green blobs on the map here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/tv_trans/index.shtml
As I understand it, the signal gets to them by underground fibre optic cable. They are very powerful (for example, near us, Winter Hill pumps out 500kW) but the signal still cannot find its way into all the little folds and valleys of our land. To do this we have lots of things called relays. These receive the ordinary TV signal from the nearest transmitter and re-broadcasts it again on a different frequency. If you click on one of the transmitter green blobs you'll see a long list of relays that are associated with it.
Along comes digital TV requiring a whole new set of frequencies. It would have been very expensive to upgrade the whole network so, as a temporary measure, the main transmitters have been upgraded but most of the relays have not. When analogue TV is switched off, they can re-use all the old analogue relays for the new digital signal.
This image from the BBC shows when each area is being switched over.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/08/2.gif
Just to add, you can tell whether you are receiving from a main transmitter or a relay by the way you point your aerial. Main transmitters require the aerial to be horizontal, while relays require it to be vertical.
Just to add, you can tell whether you are receiving from a main transmitter or a relay by the way you point your aerial. Main transmitters require the aerial to be horizontal, while relays require it to be vertical.
Although this is often the case there are some relays that break this rule. For example, Winter Hill uses horizontal polarization and most of its relays use vertical. However, Cartmel, Far Highfield, Haughton Green, Kendal Fell, Lees, Melling, Newchurch, Roose, Stockport, Walton-le-Dale and Warton all use horizontal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/tv_trans/tv_winterhl.shtml
(Look for an 'H' at the end of the Aerial Group column)
Clarkvcr
29-08-2006, 22:01
Hope you don't mind me butting in but I don't receive Film4 through my freeview box. Channel 31 doesn't exist and film4 doesn't appear on the channel guide. Other stations have a good picture/signal strength.
Any thoughts
Cheers
Hope you don't mind me butting in but I don't receive Film4 through my freeview box. Channel 31 doesn't exist and film4 doesn't appear on the channel guide. Other stations have a good picture/signal strength.
Any thoughts
Cheers
Have you manually forced your box to do a re-scan for new channels?
Clarkvcr
02-09-2006, 11:33
Box worked ok in mates house accross road. Film4 is now listed in the guide but signal strength low. A new outside aerial will solve the problem. [Current one at least 15 year old]
Cheers.
taylorjohn21
17-09-2006, 03:54
I have successfully connected the SAGEM ITD 64 box to my VCR and TV using the aerial and scart cables - when I switch to Freeview the "Line In/AUX/AV" symbol appears on my screen - however I am unable to assign any of the video channels on my VCR to the Freeview box. Do you have any ideas on how to resolve this?
RealDiamond
20-09-2006, 02:03
AV (scart) channels cant normal be assigned to a video Channel only the RF output from the freeview box can be tuned in to the video, AV channels are just allready there av1, av2, aux ,this is why scart is so much simpler than RF. you just select the AV channel on the video instead. Has your video got 2 scart sockets as the video recorder might just feed the input scart to the TV while the video is a still even while waiting for you to play a tape.
To tune in the Feeview box its the same as a normal channel 1-5
.Turn on all the equipment, video, TV, freeview box, then chose a channel on the feeview box that isnt channel 1-5. now switch the tv to the video recorders channel. decide which channel you want freeview on the video, find the video recorders manual tunning option. and scan up and down for the unusal channel if you get adverts change the channel on freview up and down quickly. adverts stay the same then its not the freeview box. carry on till you finaly find the box sould be a high distance from the normal channels 1-5.
hope this helps.
ps i was asumming you had the RF lead from the digibox feeded in to the video recorder and not straight to the TV.
Hi All,
I have just bought a Sagem Freeview box, but I'm without the RF cable to connect the RF OUT socket (on back of box) to my TV aerial socket. The instructions do say that Sagem don't supply this. So, what cable do I need?
So far, I have a coaxial cable plugged into the portable aerial running to the RF IN socket. And the scart from the Freeview into the TV.
My Freeview doesn't find any channels at all. I'm in Central London, and theoretically, should be able to receive Freeview. However, I live right next to a railway line, which seems to badly affect the analog signal. Would this affect Freeview as well? Please help!
Clarkvcr
25-09-2006, 21:06
Coaxial from aerial to rf in.
Coaxial from rf out to telly.
Scart from freeview box to telly.
Freeview box should set up and find channels itself. If not you may need a better aerial.
keepitreel
28-03-2010, 18:39
i bought a sagem dtr 6400t, and they said i was entitled to "the seven-day electronic programme guide" WELL WHERE THE **** IS IT, WHAT IS IT, IS IT SOMEWHERE ON THE WEB, THE TUNER, A PHONE CALL, WHAT???????!!!!!!!!!!
:wavey::welcome:
welcome to the forum
the e.p.g. is usually on the "guide " button or whatever you use to pick or browse your channels:)
p.s don't shout we're not deaf ( well most of us anyway):)
keepitreel
28-03-2010, 19:20
:wavey::welcome:
Welcome to the forum
the e.p.g. Is usually on the "guide " button or whatever you use to pick or browse your channels:)
p.s don't shout we're not deaf ( well most of us anyway):)
nope, checked it, theres no such channel on there, do not buy a sagem pepes, its a con and theres not even a <REMOVED> zoom button, i checked this out and there is no info on it at all, ive been <REMOVED> ripped off!!!!!!!!!!
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hi all,
i have just bought a sagem freeview box, but i'm without the rf cable to connect the rf out socket (on back of box) to my tv aerial socket. The instructions do say that sagem don't supply this. So, what cable do i need?
So far, i have a coaxial cable plugged into the portable aerial running to the rf in socket. And the scart from the freeview into the tv.
My freeview doesn't find any channels at all. I'm in central london, and theoretically, should be able to receive freeview. However, i live right next to a railway line, which seems to badly affect the analog signal. Would this affect freeview as well? Please help!
dunno but the best thing to do with it since its a sagem, is chuck it on the rail way lines and go with another brand, is there a zoom button on yours, cos there <REMOVED> isnt one on mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it looks like something this
dilli-theclaw
28-03-2010, 19:43
nope, checked it, theres no such channel on there, do not buy a sagem pepes, its a con and theres not even a <REMOVED> zoom button, i checked this out and there is no info on it at all, ive been <REMOVED> ripped off!!!!!!!!!!
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dunno but the best thing to do with it since its a sagem, is chuck it on the rail way lines and go with another brand, is there a zoom button on yours, cos there <REMOVED> isnt one on mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you watch the language please, this is a family forum :tu:
multiskilled
28-03-2010, 19:54
Have you tried reading the instruction book. It's usually more helpful than swearing on a forum. As for a zoom button they are usually only found on dvd players not on freeview boxes.
the grey button underneath the "9 ", with a picture of a book on it..what happens when you press that?
keepitreel
28-03-2010, 22:14
Have you tried reading the instruction book. It's usually more helpful than swearing on a forum. As for a zoom button they are usually only found on dvd players not on freeview boxes.
i hope you have better advice for somebody else!
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the grey button underneath the "9 ", with a picture of a book on it..what happens when you press that?
just a tv guide really, pile of ****!
Cobbydaler
28-03-2010, 22:44
just a tv guide really, pile of ****!
Well, that's what "the seven-day electronic programme guide" is... :erm::confused:
What did you expect, previews of every program? :rolleyes:
multiskilled
28-03-2010, 22:48
i hope you have better advice for somebody else!
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just a tv guide really, pile of ****!
I usually do.
What did you think a 7 day epg was?
Maybe you should thank Scrubs as he gave you the answer to your question.
Just noticed your user name maybe you should take heed of it.
keepitreel
28-03-2010, 23:00
Well, that's what "the seven-day electronic programme guide" is... :erm::confused:
What did you expect, previews of every program? :rolleyes:
no, they said it was a free help guide for 7 days
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i need to plug it into my vcr\dvd\hardrive recorder, how am i supposed to do that? without that i cant zoom in and change the aspect ratio, stupid how they dont put one on the digi box, awkward *******s!
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AV (scart) channels cant normal be assigned to a video Channel only the RF output from the freeview box can be tuned in to the video, AV channels are just allready there av1, av2, aux ,this is why scart is so much simpler than RF. you just select the AV channel on the video instead. Has your video got 2 scart sockets as the video recorder might just feed the input scart to the TV while the video is a still even while waiting for you to play a tape.
To tune in the Feeview box its the same as a normal channel 1-5
.Turn on all the equipment, video, TV, freeview box, then chose a channel on the feeview box that isnt channel 1-5. now switch the tv to the video recorders channel. decide which channel you want freeview on the video, find the video recorders manual tunning option. and scan up and down for the unusal channel if you get adverts change the channel on freview up and down quickly. adverts stay the same then its not the freeview box. carry on till you finaly find the box sould be a high distance from the normal channels 1-5.
hope this helps.
ps i was asumming you had the RF lead from the digibox feeded in to the video recorder and not straight to the TV.
naaa they dont tell you that **** cos i bought a cheap fv box and i needed to tune it in with my scarts, did it work? did it ****! now i have spent loads on something that half works, BRING BACK TERESTAL TV AND AWAY WITH ALL THIS DIDGITAL ****, the whole thing it just a part of the NWO anyway!
Calm the sheep down, there is no point in sheeping swearing on a sheeping forum, it isn't going to get you help any faster. The seven day electronic program guide gives you a seven day.... wait for it... program guide which lets you see whats on and set recordings etc.
multiskilled
28-03-2010, 23:14
When you set the Sagem up it would have asked you what was the screen ratio of your tv that is all you needed to do.
The helpline sounds like something the shop where you purchased the box from have set up, look on your guarantee info there maybe a free phone number. Though I recommend not swearing at them as you will probably get less help than you have got here.
keepitreel
28-03-2010, 23:52
Calm the sheep down, there is no point in sheeping swearing on a sheeping forum, it isn't going to get you help any faster. The seven day electronic program guide gives you a seven day.... wait for it... program guide which lets you see whats on and set recordings etc.
thats what its supposed to do anyway, how do i zoom in?
Using your TV remote is what I do
keepitreel
29-03-2010, 23:06
Using your TV remote is what I do
nope, only my dvd/video/harddrive recorder does that!
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When you set the Sagem up it would have asked you what was the screen ratio of your tv that is all you needed to do.
The helpline sounds like something the shop where you purchased the box from have set up, look on your guarantee info there maybe a free phone number. Though I recommend not swearing at them as you will probably get less help than you have got here.
no, it just did it automatically, and ratio is nothing to do with the zoom option that does not exist!
Well, I don't know. If it doesn't do what you want it to then take it back. But even my V+ box doesn't have a zoom feature
Clarkvcr
30-03-2010, 18:23
We bought a Sagem hard drive and liked it so much we bought another for 2nd telly.
If it doesn't do what you expect grade up but don't think you'd get much better for your money.
thats what its supposed to do anyway, how do i zoom in?
try saying please or thank you for a start
multiskilled
31-03-2010, 18:24
nope, only my dvd/video/harddrive recorder does that!
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no, it just did it automatically, and ratio is nothing to do with the zoom option that does not exist!
Exactly the zoom feature is only available on dvd player/recorders.It was added to dvd specs when the porn industry were asked what features they wanted on dvd's, along with choice of camera angles.
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