View Full Version : .com Returns ?? !!
Sorry to link to another forum, (http://www.ntlhell.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=3439&st=0&#entry45607) but any comments ???
.com is still down for me
Still down for me too. But what would be the point of it coming back? Surely the damage is done?
Sorry to link to another forum, (http://www.ntlhell.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=3439&st=0&#entry45607) but any comments ???
That is a post made by someone who I wouldn't believe if they told me the sky was blue.
'Miss NTL' has multiple identities on here/.com/ntlhell, & wouldnt know the truth if it jumped up & bit them on the ar$e.
Why did you rush over here to post that Basa? Why didn't you just PM me or one of the others? Or could you not resist an opportunity to spam? :rolleyes:
I don't have a problem with you linking to Bryan's site at all (far from it in fact) You don't need to-the two site are on quite good terms now (I speak to Bryan & most of the team there quite regularly)
But what 'comment' do you want/expect?
I've given you my opinion-Miss NTL is a troll who talks out of his/her ar$e.
That is a post made by someone who I wouldn't believe if they told me the sky was blue.
'Miss NTL' has multiple identities on here/.com/ntlhell, & wouldnt know the truth if it jumped up & bit them on the ar$e.
Why did you rush over here to post that Basa? Why didn't you just PM me or one of the others? Or could you not resist an opportunity to spam? :rolleyes:
I don't have a problem with you linking to Bryan's site at all (far from it in fact) You don't need to-the two site are on quite good terms now (I speak to Bryan & most of the team there quite regularly)
But what 'comment' do you want/expect?
I've given you my opinion-Miss NTL is a troll who talks out of his/her ar$e.
Oh dear...not quite the reaction I had hoped for !! :shrug:
I was interested to see if anyone else had further information on this possibility, how it might be run, who would be running it etc, etc. If anyone had info to dispute it ??
I'll get my coat !! :dozey:
BTW No one has suggested when it might return, just that they have info that it will !
BTW No one has suggested when it might return, just that they have info that it will !And we really don't care so please don't post about it on here anymore :)
Oh dear...not quite the reaction I had hoped for !! :shrug:
I was interested to see if anyone else had further information on this possibility, how it might be run, who would be running it etc, etc. If anyone had info to dispute it ??
I'll get my coat !! :dozey:
BTW No one has suggested when it might return, just that they have info that it will !
Sorry Basa-perhaps I over-reacted.
I am just sick to the back teeth of the whole .com issue, & people like Miss NTL who are know trouble makers & stirrers, & TBH it does nothing for the relationship of the 2 sites.
No need to get your coat, I'm sorry for biting your head off. :)
The admins have kindly re-opened this thread so we can discuss issues around the possible return of .com. Personally, I'm interested whether people who have moved over here since .com closed feel their move is temporary, or are they now here permanently?
Given the potential for flaming and general trollish nastiness that seems to follow the .com/.co.uk/ntlhell subject around, let's all try to play nice and polite eh?
I only started this thread (in response to a post / thread elsewhere) to gauge reaction and to perhaps confirm / deny the rumour. I now read that ntl CS (08000522000) have received emails to the effect.
However I am not going to comment on the validity of that information. :disturbd:
IMO the .com boat is sunk and even if it resurfaces it will not be the forum we all knew (and loved ??? :D ).
downquark1
04-12-2003, 11:20
How sure are we that it is re-opening or closing tommorrow?
(and loved ??? :D ).
I loved it - nthw.com introduced me to the world of internet forums. The reason I moved here was 'cos I wanted to be a member of just one, and I thought there was more of a long-term future over here.
Given the potential for flaming and general trollish nastiness that seems to follow the .com/.co.uk/ntlhell subject around, let's all try to play nice and polite eh?
Towny, I'm astonished .... you mean that there are people who purposely incite bad feeling, who would persecute individuals and generally cause trouble around here ..... :shocking:
I came here when the site launched, and never really was interested in .Com. Here is home ..... just need somewhere to put me hat.. :D
I was interested in the fortunes of .com from the point of view Neil kept carp..., sorry commenting on, which was .com had very close links to ntl's CS, tech and management teams which helped greatly in resolution of a lot of problems.
IMO .com should remain dead but 'community' should replace the 'help' side of .com in that ntl related problem solving only go on there aided and abetted by CLT, CS and TS.
DrAwesome
04-12-2003, 11:46
BTW No one has suggested when it might return, just that they have info that it will !
It has already been suggested when it might return here (http://forum.nthellworld.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4809&page=1&pp=15) inc comments
th'engineer
04-12-2003, 11:58
I think it will open but as community with the URL linking into community .
Fraz will be the admin more CLts on the site with support from the networks guys.
It will have specialist people in provisioning service billing BB and e-mail.
Also including trials, new products easy upgrdes on line for STB and CM.
ADSL support, it will only deal with problems and suggestions for improvement will not be debated it will be a contact form.
You will be able to cancel on line, check your install date, a tech will be sent out within 24 hours if you have a problem.
There will be standard service level agreements between all depts within NTL.
These will be tracked by the admin Fraz and you will have both telephone and webupdates on the resolution of your problem.
All CLts will be trained in the use of the board and be senior people in the own specialist area .
If CJ is back do not know but will be on a lead from Fraz
petevick
04-12-2003, 11:59
The admins have kindly re-opened this thread so we can discuss issues around the possible return of .com. Personally, I'm interested whether people who have moved over here since .com closed feel their move is temporary, or are they now here permanently?
I moved from .com here when .com was pulled, and I'm staying here. :D
If they can do all that in 2 weeks, then it makes them look even more foolish, as that's the kind of things we have been trying to achieve since they took over, & it will just confirm that they are a bunch of liars & cheats who only do things to do themselves.
I think it will open but as community with the URL linking into community .
Fraz will be the admin more CLts on the site with support from the networks guys.
It will have specialist people in provisioning service billing BB and e-mail.
Also including trials, new products easy upgrdes on line for STB and CM.
ADSL support, it will only deal with problems and suggestions for improvement will not be debated it will be a contact form.
You will be able to cancel on line, check your install date, a tech will be sent out within 24 hours if you have a problem.
There will be standard service level agreements between all depts within NTL.
These will be tracked by the admin Fraz and you will have both telephone and webupdates on the resolution of your problem.
All CLts will be trained in the use of the board and be senior people in the own specialist area .
If CJ is back do not know but will be on a lead from Fraz
Yeh...and all the pigs are fuelled and ready to fly !!!!!! :rofl:
Sociable
04-12-2003, 12:13
Intersting update is that the "dead" link to "Community" has now been removed from the ".Com" holding page.
Wonder what if anything can be infered from that?
Personally I suspect .com will return much as it was but with in house moderation only. The big plus for NTL of having .com live is that it acts as a highly visible answer to all the other hell sites.
Also don't forget they have access to the database as a resource including the ability to contact nearly 10,000 members to give any re-launch a great kick start.
Get the feeling the next week or so will be "Interesting" as this online soap progresses.
Who Shot AshG?
Will Craig come out of the shower?
Will Dirty "UDT" turn out to be Neil's ilegitamate father etc etc etc etc.
:)
As for me I'm off to buy popcorn this is far to good to miss. LOL
well, im in work at 2, so ill see what this email says.....think ill reserve judgment till then
th'engineer
04-12-2003, 12:39
Yeh...and all the pigs are fuelled and ready to fly !!!!!! :rofl:
Forget something in the original post the words in an ideal world
downquark1
04-12-2003, 12:42
If they can do all that in 2 weeks, then it makes them look even more foolish, as that's the kind of things we have been trying to achieve since they took over, & it will just confirm that they are a bunch of liars & cheats who only do things to do themselves.
:confused:Neil have they actually sacked you or are you still 'officially' running the forum?
etccarmageddon
04-12-2003, 12:49
:confused:Neil have they actually sacked you or are you still 'officially' running the forum?
I suspect by the warm tone of Neil's comment, he is still officially running the forum. :D
(Nice to see some candid opinions now he's able to speak more freely)
I think it will open but as community with the URL linking into community .
Fraz will be the admin more CLts on the site with support from the networks guys.
It will have specialist people in provisioning service billing BB and e-mail.
Also including trials, new products easy upgrdes on line for STB and CM.
ADSL support, it will only deal with problems and suggestions for improvement will not be debated it will be a contact form.
You will be able to cancel on line, check your install date, a tech will be sent out within 24 hours if you have a problem.
There will be standard service level agreements between all depts within NTL.
These will be tracked by the admin Fraz and you will have both telephone and webupdates on the resolution of your problem.
All CLts will be trained in the use of the board and be senior people in the own specialist area .
If CJ is back do not know but will be on a lead from Fraz
this all sounds very nice and helpful, and nothing like what the NTL we know would do. I would even go so far as to say that what you mention is way beyond NTL's capability to achieve.
so where have you had this info from? the local purveyor of south american cigarettes :smokin:
:confused:Neil have they actually sacked you or are you still 'officially' running the forum?
They can't 'sack' us as such DQ1 as we never actually were 'employed' by ntl.
But the answer to your question is "I don't know officially" as Ashley Grossman has not had the decency to contact any of us to let us know. :rolleyes:
We did get a letter however, on Thursday the 27th November, telling us that our 'associate subsdies' ended on Monday the 24th of November....:dozey:
He has also neglected to send us the cheques for the money he owes us for our last month on .com. :nono:
So-no communication from ntl, what a surprise (not)
If you're reading this Ash-we are still expecting those cheques, & I have a contract that says that both parties may give one month notice, so until that is done, we not only expect the cheque for November, but also for every month up until the point where you honour the contract & serve us with one month's notice.
If .com comes back and if the format is suitable I will probably post on there whilst also remaining on here and NTLHELL
I think in view of the events of the last couple of weeks perhaps you should engage your brain more fully before using certain words, Neil.
I don't think I should do any such thing Drudge (+ there's no need to be so rude)
I am guessing you are implying that we are also liars as we held back our identities on this site? We did it for good reasons-what 'reasons' would ntl have for never giving us the tools to improve .com month after month that we were suggesting them, & then re launching the site (as suggested by Th'eng) after 2 weeks with them implemented?
Sociable
04-12-2003, 13:31
I don't think I should do any such thing Drudge (+ there's no need to be so rude)
I am guessing you are implying that we are also liars as we held back our identities on this site? We did it for good reasons-what 'reasons' would ntl have for never giving us the tools to improve .com month after month that we were suggesting them, & then re launching the site (as suggested by Th'eng) after 2 weeks with them implemented?
I think the point being made is that just perhaps NTL didn't want to get rid of .com they just wanted to get rid of the Mods they knew were not being honest with them for whatever reason that may have been.
This also explains the lack of payment I guess as you would have a very tricky time taking this through the courts due to the way you yourself had acted.
Time will tell though as I said it's going to be an "Interesting" week or so as this eventually unfolds.
If you're reading this Ash-we are still expecting those cheques, & I have a contract that says that both parties may give one month notice, so until that is done, we not only expect the cheque for November, but also for every month up until the point where you honour the contract & serve us with one month's notice.
:rofl: Those piggies are still on the end of the runway !! :rofl:
Sociable
04-12-2003, 13:43
If you're reading this Ash-we are still expecting those cheques, & I have a contract that says that both parties may give one month notice, so until that is done, we not only expect the cheque for November, but also for every month up until the point where you honour the contract & serve us with one month's notice.
Friendly piece of advice Neil.
Settle for not getting a demand for the return of monies paid whilst you were guilty of at least bad faith with NTL in the period since .co.uk opened. They could have a very good case against you should they wish to be vindictive.
This is a time for cutting losses not inviting retribution.
Friendly piece of advice Neil.
Settle for not getting a demand for the return of monies paid whilst you were guilty of at least bad faith with NTL in the period since .co.uk opened. They could have a very good case against you should they wish to be vindictive.
This is a time for cutting losses not inviting retribution.
I haven't broken any terms of my contract Sociable, ntl have-simple. It would appear that Ash has 'copped the hump' (can't say I blame him TBH), & just decided to make it a personal issue & not pay us. Nowhere in our contracts does it say we cannot run/be involved with other sites (unlike Frank's), so it is not us who have broken the terms of said contract (drawn up bt ntl's own legal team no less), ,but ntl as they have A) neglected to pay us, & B) neglected to give us notice of termination.
I now read that ntl CS (08000522000) have received emails to the effect.
well, i have had no such email, nor have any of my collegues and there is NOTHING about .com reopening on any part of the intranet that i can find....
make of that what you will......
well, im i have had no such email, nor have any of my collegues and there is NOTHING about .com reopening on any part of the intranet that i can find....
make of that what you will......
Thanks Mark ... curiouser and curiouser :D .... where's me wooden spoon :D
well, i have had no such email, nor have any of my collegues and there is NOTHING about .com reopening on any part of the intranet that i can find....
make of that what you will......
OK I'll relay that to the relevant party !! :naughty:
DrAwesome
04-12-2003, 14:15
there is NOTHING about .com reopening on any part of the intranet that i can find....
Just as a matter of interest when .com or community was about to close or closed was there anything/announcement on the NTL intranet?
etccarmageddon
04-12-2003, 14:25
the simple fact is you (neil, mick, ben etc) earned that money fair and square for all the help you gave to THEIR customers upto the closure of .com.
and in my opinion the payments were a lot less than their true value in the effort put in on .com and the ****e you took while Ash hid in his bunker.
so in the interests of fair payment for work done, the cheques should be issued as a matter of principle.
I moved from .com here when .com was pulled, and I'm staying here. :D
Pretty much the same - I was already lurking here, and posting on .com (although put the odd post in here if I felt I could help :angel: ) when they pulled the plug.
If .com re-opens, then I shall look at it and see how it goes - I have no issues with belonging to more than one forum about the same subject - I merely look for as much info as I can get, and to help as many people as I can..
Neil - good luck with AshG - although TBH I reckon it's time to walk away - The whole thing looks like it may turn into a bit of a p*****g competition - and I for one would not want to be near NTL when they go into that mode (it is the one thing they are very good at :D )
Sociable - I agree - time to look forward and try to move on (I think I may have said this a few times on this forum recently - but hey, this is my opinion...) not look back and get grumpy :(
..........the cheques should be issued as a matter of principle.
You think any big business has principles ?????? :rofl:
etccarmageddon
04-12-2003, 14:40
You think any big business has principles ?????? :rofl:
not really but people have principles and if Ash has any, he will pay for the work they did.
Just as a matter of interest when .com or community was about to close or closed was there anything/announcement on the NTL intranet?
to be honest no there was no warning that it was gonna close. id not expect them to post it was going back up either to be honest....
im just questioning the source of this rumour seems to be an email sent out to CS staff....one that noone i know seems to have got :shrug:
Florence
04-12-2003, 14:54
I joined here when it opened but hardly called back. Ir never really felt like where I belonged. Then when .com went down I came here might watch if it ever came back but unsure and would certainly not participate if certain people became mods.
I joined here when it opened but hardly called back. Ir never really felt like where I belonged. Then when .com went down I came here might watch if it ever came back but unsure and would certainly not participate if certain people became mods.
Just to make you feel at home Kitty :ghugs:
to be honest no there was no warning that it was gonna close. id not expect them to post it was going back up either to be honest....
im just questioning the source of this rumour seems to be an email sent out to CS staff....one that noone i know seems to have got :shrug:
No need to question it Mark-as I have already said, the 'fact' was posted on ntlhell by someone who is well known to us a troll & a stirrer with multiple identies (Miss NTL/Novae Sardines/Jane Corgis to name but 3)-plus the other one 'it' thinks we don't know about...:rolleyes:
Don't feed the troll......:nono:
Basa-you really should know better than to believe Miss NTL.....;)
Sociable
04-12-2003, 15:00
I joined here when it opened but hardly called back. Ir never really felt like where I belonged. Then when .com went down I came here might watch if it ever came back but unsure and would certainly not participate if certain people became mods.
LOL To be fair I think the "suggestions" about possible mods was actually intended as a joke, though I can see why, even in jest, the suggestions would make most if not all shudder and run for the hills. :)
paulyoung666
04-12-2003, 15:05
i just wondered if this was really needed again :shrug:
to be honest no there was no warning that it was gonna close. id not expect them to post it was going back up either to be honest....
im just questioning the source of this rumour seems to be an email sent out to CS staff....one that noone i know seems to have got :shrug:
I've just phoned CS (sorry to waste your time BB Tech Support !! :blush: ).
The guy I spoke to was understandably non commital and wasn't aware of an email.
He did hint that, in his opinion, .com would return once they had resolved a 'resources' issue ?
What that issue was..hardware, software, personnel, he didn't specify, but he seemed to suggest .com would be back at some stage.
(Apologies if the tech concerned reads this and feels I have misrepresented him.)
Lord Nikon
04-12-2003, 15:10
You have to remember though, if such an email was sent, whether by internet or intranet, it has to go through NTL's email servers, and therein lies a problem.
We all know that pigeon post can be more effective than NTL email, so people MAY receive the email announcing .com's return just after the actor who portrays harry potter becomes a grandfather, or, in NTL terms - "Coming soon"
Stuart W
04-12-2003, 15:13
OK, to put things in perspective....
I spoke to someone from CS who said they got an e-mail saying that all broadband customers will get 1 year free 1M broadband as a good will gesture.
Anyone waiting for free internet?
The other thing to be considered is that this 'email' may have been one issued when (or after) .com closed down and the CS rep is referring to the text saying to check back in two weeks i.e. about now ??
Possible ?? I dunno even if such an email was issued then ??
TBH I'm loosing interest anyway..if .com returns we shall all know then !!! :dozey:
Enterian
04-12-2003, 15:16
OK, to put things in perspective....
I spoke to someone from CS who said they got an e-mail saying that all broadband customers will get 1 year free 1M broadband as a good will gesture.
Anyone waiting for free internet?
I think those pigs just went into orbit! :naughty:
OK, to put things in perspective....
I spoke to someone from CS who said they got an e-mail saying that all broadband customers will get 1 year free 1M broadband as a good will gesture.
Anyone waiting for free internet?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The other thing to be considered is that this 'email' may have been one issued when (or after) .com closed down and the CS rep is referring to the text saying to check back in two weeks i.e. about now ??
Possible ?? I dunno even if such an email was issued then ??
TBH I'm loosing interest anyway..if .com returns we shall all know then !!! :dozey:
We certainly will basa, we certainly will. :)
However, if .com does return I hope whoever the new mods will be have a strong will to live.
If ntl had of kept their word and we were going to community, instead of this, 'Well you might be needed, you might not be needed' giving us the run-around treatment and at the same time telling us dotcom was going to close. Community was not going to be a discussion forum in its first stages, it was going to be a online support system, you submit a query or problem, given a solution then the thread is closed, leaving no room for discussion, this we disagreed with which is probably why they decided not to take us on board but then say afterwards, 'We may have a place for you.'
Dotcom was going to close then the turn-around the ntl forums will be removed instead, giving the site the dice of death. It really did look like ntl were attempting to silence the criticism once and for all, we needed to act and if ntl had not of treated us like something you walk in then we probably would not of launched nthellworld.co.uk.
Also don't forget they have access to the database as a resource including the ability to contact nearly 10,000 members to give any re-launch a great kick start.
But are they allowed too? "That is the question" :shrug: :dozey: :dozey:
Sociable
04-12-2003, 15:50
But are they allowed too? "That is the question" :shrug: :dozey: :dozey:
They certainly are both able to and allowed to, the only question is would they want to and only time will tell on that one.
i just wondered if this was really needed again :shrug:
You'll have to ask Basa Paul. He was the one that came over here & started the thread following a post by a well known troll & troublemaker on ntlhell (Miss NTL/Novae Sardines/Jane Corgis etc-when will people learn not to trust this serial imposter?) :rolleyes:
You will be able to cancel on lineErm dream on.
You'll have to ask Basa Paul. He was the one that came over here & started the thread following a post by a well known troll & troublemaker on ntlhell (Miss NTL/Novae Sardines/Jane Corgis etc-when will people learn not to trust this serial imposter?) :rolleyes:
Neil - I think Paul meant "is .com needed" - and personally, no, it is not needed - we already have sites where people help each other and get the stress of dealing with NTL off their respective chests... :ghugs:
Basa posted it here (IMHO) to find out if anyone on this site had heard the same rumour/story - in which case it has served its purpose - we have comments from NTL employees saying they have not seen this alleged Email - and will merely have to wait and see what happens. (after all it would not be the first time NTL have done something without bothering to tell their employees now would it :naughty: )
Lets not get into personal comments - thats just lowering yourself to other peoples levels - they then win - we all become trolls, and the forums fall apart due to lack of interest...... (ok worst case scenario - but I can be a right doom and gloom merchant sometimes :D )
You'll have to ask Basa Paul. He was the one that came over here & started the thread following a post by a well known troll & troublemaker on ntlhell (Miss NTL/Novae Sardines/Jane Corgis etc-when will people learn not to trust this serial imposter?) :rolleyes:
Which was exactly why I asked the question here to see if there was any known basis for it ! :dozey:
(Thanks zovat, posted before reading on !! :dozey: )
th'engineer
04-12-2003, 16:22
Erm dream on.Really must apologise for the idea of how it will come back.
Do like the occasional pint of beer and glass of wine. But have not had any this week.
I think it might have come to me in a dream.
Personally all the ideas posted are quite possible with I.T (information technology).
I just think that NTL have not really embraced developments in this field because of Cash restraints.
NTl have a lot of good people that given the go ahead could bring all those ideas to fruition.
But like most companies have managers that do not like change.
Change is good for any company, think its time for them to ring in the changes.
Various contacts within NTL support this view especially at higher levels
Really must apologise for the idea of how it will come back.
Do like the occasional pint of beer and glass of wine. But have not had any this week.
I think it might have come to me in a dream.
Personally all the ideas posted are quite possible with I.T (information technology).
I just think that NTL have not really embraced developments in this field because of Cash restraints.
NTl have a lot of good people that given the go ahead could bring all those ideas to fruition.
But like most companies have managers that do not like change.
Change is good for any company, think its time for them to ring in the changes.
Various contacts within NTL support this view especially at higher levels
Don't apologise - you gave us hope for the future :rofl:
But in the spirit of fairness - All the comments you made are possible (although I don't know how pleased fraz would be with the new job ;) ), but we all know that NTL do not see the potential value of doing this - just the short term costs, and the short term grief.
If .com does re-open, and if it is run correctly, then it could be a very useful site, and in conjunction with this (and other such sites) could lead to NTL users having one of the best supported communities around (ok pigs are now nearing mars :D ).
paulyoung666
04-12-2003, 16:42
one half of me wants .com back as it was and the other half doesnt want it at all , personally i found having the 2 sites to be useful as not everyone posted on both and as for the other one i dont go there very often :cry: , what i do want to see stop is al the sniping between sites if it does return , it does nobody any good ;) :D
one half of me wants .com back as it was and the other half doesnt want it at all , personally i found having the 2 sites to be useful as not everyone posted on both and as for the other one i dont go there very often :cry: , what i do want to see stop is al the sniping between sites if it does return , it does nobody any good ;) :D
Amen to that :angel:
seaneeboy
04-12-2003, 16:51
Howdy,
I popped across whenever .com was down. on the last outage (which is still going) I registered on here and started carrying on as I had on the other site.
The only problem I feel is that I have no real sign that more gets fixed through this site than .com and it is purely for this reason that I'd prefer .com - the politics of it all really don't bother me too much. A lot of it sounds like NTL Exceutives loving the sound of their own voice too much, and I'm not going to give my regognition or stress to that.
This post might not be too clear, so to clarify The only reason I have this impression of .co.uk is only because I've only just joined, while during my time at .com several problems were quickly delt with properly.
I am more than willing to be convinced as to this sites potential, and I believe it's there. it's just going to be harder to convince me of NTL's willingness to accept criticism.
If .com comes back though, I'll keep registered there. I won't give up my .co.uk registration though, just in case ;)
Howdy,
I popped across whenever .com was down. on the last outage (which is still going) I registered on here and started carrying on as I had on the other site.
The only problem I feel is that I have no real sign that more gets fixed through this site than .com and it is purely for this reason that I'd prefer .com - the politics of it all really don't bother me too much. A lot of it sounds like NTL Exceutives loving the sound of their own voice too much, and I'm not going to give my regognition or stress to that.
This post might not be too clear, so to clarify The only reason I have this impression of .co.uk is only because I've only just joined, while during my time at .com several problems were quickly delt with properly.
I am more than willing to be convinced as to this sites potential, and I believe it's there. it's just going to be harder to convince me of NTL's willingness to accept criticism.
If .com comes back though, I'll keep registered there. I won't give up my .co.uk registration though, just in case ;)
Give it time - .co.uk was always going to be at a slight disadvantage as long as .com remained open. If I were an NTL employee with a choice between posting on .com as a member of the CLT with my boss' approval and posting on .co.uk wondering if I'm going to get in trouble, I know which I would have chosen. However .com has now gone and many CLTs are coming over here. .co.uk has the potential to become what .com was before NTL bought it. People got helped there when it was independent; given time I think more and more nice, helpful staffers will appear on here, although sadly I suppose they will have to remain careful about what they say and when they post.
Give it time - .co.uk was always going to be at a slight disadvantage as long as .com remained open. If I were an NTL employee with a choice between posting on .com as a member of the CLT with my boss' approval and posting on .co.uk wondering if I'm going to get in trouble, I know which I would have chosen. However .com has now gone and many CLTs are coming over here. .co.uk has the potential to become what .com was before NTL bought it. People got helped there when it was independent; given time I think more and more nice, helpful staffers will appear on here, although sadly I suppose they will have to remain careful about what they say and when they post.
Another good post by Towny ..... watch the size of that head, you scally ...
The CLT can always post under an assumed name, or just resort to PM's if necessay.
Everyone is welcome here.
th'engineer
04-12-2003, 17:13
You have to agree we have the Best of both sites here. The experience of NTL related problems, the way to fix them we do not have a direct acting CLT or direct voice to the directors of the Company.
But many members on this site know what BS you get from NTl so we can cut through the BS.
We have quite a few Non NTL people who are more aware of the NTL network than some of the directors and some support staff.
Because we have a mentality of can do and not throw over the wall.
This, I Believe is the official line:
Community.ntl.com website was compromised and some pages temporarily changed. The site used to be ntlhellworld.com
Community.ntl.com site disabled and links removed while a system and code audit is performed.
This underlines the need in Home development for security involvement from project commencement. Networks Operational Security now involved and a review will take place before site is re-launched.
Enterian
10-12-2003, 11:22
This, I Believe is the official line:
Community.ntl.com website was compromised and some pages temporarily changed. The site used to be ntlhellworld.com
Community.ntl.com site disabled and links removed while a system and code audit is performed.
This underlines the need in Home development for security involvement from project commencement. Networks Operational Security now involved and a review will take place before site is re-launched.So if I read that right .com is dead and has been replaced by community?
paulyoung666
10-12-2003, 11:32
This, I Believe is the official line:
Community.ntl.com website was compromised and some pages temporarily changed. The site used to be ntlhellworld.com
Community.ntl.com site disabled and links removed while a system and code audit is performed.
This underlines the need in Home development for security involvement from project commencement. Networks Operational Security now involved and a review will take place before site is re-launched.
just curious as to where you got the info from ?????????? :)
You know that it is never wise to reveal sources.
You know that it is never wise to reveal sources.
Understood ;), and thanks anyway ..
This, I Believe is the official line:
Community.ntl.com website was compromised and some pages temporarily changed. The site used to be ntlhellworld.comThe site used to be ntlhellworld.com?? I understood that nthellworld.com and community were always two separate sites. Also, if this is the official line, then they are referring to a site owned by some other idiot (it's nthe... not ntlhe...)
aliferste
10-12-2003, 12:17
I dont know why people bother !!
Alright picky, a typo.
The text was cut and pasted from an internal ntl document????
Sociable
10-12-2003, 12:43
Alright picky, a typo.
The text was cut and pasted from an internal ntl document????
LOL yep had that sort of ring to it. :)
The link between com and community actually makes sense as yes com was the starting point for community they just worded it badly maybe not even being aware that both existed as seperate entities for several months.
Time will tell but the implication is that soon as Community is "secure" it will open and replace com completely.
Given their expertise in webmanagement and security I expect this will be done by Christmas I'm just not betting which Christmas ;)
The text was cut and pasted from an internal ntl document????Sorry, not being picky with you, I thought that was the case. I'm ust illustrating that ntl themselves can't even get the name right.
DrAwesome
11-12-2003, 12:59
I sent an email to NTL:home on the 9th December asking when .com or community will be back online because the couple of weeks deadline had passed and this morning I recieved a reply...
Thank you for your email.
The review of both websites is still ongoing. Any annoucements will be posted at the holding page at www.nthellworld.com within the next couple of weeks.
Regards
ntl:home
A reply which beats awaiting post reply from the moderators which i posted in NTHW Site Discussion (04-12-2003, 12:22).
paulyoung666
11-12-2003, 13:03
I sent an email to NTL:home on the 9th December asking when .com or community will be back online because the couple of weeks deadline had passed and this morning I recieved a reply...
Thank you for your email.
The review of both websites is still ongoing. Any annoucements will be posted at the holding page at www.nthellworld.com within the next couple of weeks.
Regards
ntl:home
heel dragging time methinks :afire:
A reply which beats awaiting post reply from the moderators which i posted in NTHW Site Discussion (04-12-2003, 12:22).
Of which I suggested and is in the pipeline. :)
Edit:- Now set up in the Knapp's area. :)
Just got this error when I tried community in the vain hope it might be available..
Look at the recommended sites..
Just got this error when I tried community in the vain hope it might be available..
Look at the recommended sites..
Come on now, you know it's "coming soon" :naughty:
Just got this error when I tried community in the vain hope it might be available..
Look at the recommended sites..
I get the following....
Anyone know what the latest information is re: the return of NTHellWorld.com?
I have emailed their 'contact us' e-mail address but no-one has replied.
Just makes it difficult to contact NTHW.com forum members especially when they didn't sign up for NTHW.co.uk.
Any help greatly appreciated. TIA.
Sociable
22-12-2003, 12:09
Can't see anything happening till after Christmas ntluser.
I wouldn't even want to specify after which Christmas. LOL
paulyoung666
22-12-2003, 12:11
Can't see anything happening till after Christmas ntluser.
I wouldn't even want to specify after which Christmas. LOL
same here methinks , dead in the water springs to mind , and even if it did return i cant see it being in the same format as before :(
Thanks for the responses.
I think we all suspected that when NTL bought NTHellWorld.com it was so they could shut it down and silence critics of the company.
However, for me, it was my sole contact with fellow forum members. It was a pity that if NTL were going to close it down they should have announced it to give forum members time to exchange e-mail addresses if they wished. If it doesn't re-open that opportunity has been lost.
Mind you, if it happens, what a time to do it... in the run-up to Christmas.
I wouldn't mind if they closed nthw.com down as it is, but at least open community in it's place. There are people that genuinely need help online and whilst here is okay, it's not as good as .com was or community will be.
I wouldn't mind if they closed nthw.com down as it is, but at least open community in it's place. There are people that genuinely need help online and whilst here is okay, it's not as good as .com was or community will be.
I think community has yet to prove itself and that .com could be as great as it was if only NTL would stop messing with it.
I appreciate that people do need online help, but there are others like myself who used .com's forums for contact and as an opportunity to explore issues with others.
I think community is aimed at a completely different market and it's a great shame if .com has to go simply because it doesn't fit in with the NTL grand plan. It would be easier and perhaps more honest to give it back to Frank and the mods to run it was it was before, as they actually cared about it and its development.
Isn't there something about cyber-squatting being unlawful or whatever now? There may be a time limit on having a site name unused, and a time limit on the pretence of reviewing what to do with the site, or of being 'under-construction'.
Then again, it they did actually close .com, then it would be for sale again?
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