ntl Telewest and Big Brother 7 News.

[Mick]

Press release from ntl Telewest this morning states:-

All eyes on Big Brother 7
Around the clock coverage delivered to your desktop

ntl, Telewest and Virgin.net customers will be able to keep up with all the action from the Big Brother 7 house this summer, thanks to a deal signed with Channel 4 New Media this week.

It is the first content deal to span all three ntl owned ISPs since the cable company merged with Telewest earlier this year.

Over three million broadband customers will have access to daily news stories and video clip highlights from the house via the ntlworld.com, blueyonder.co.uk and Virgin.net websites. There will also be contestant biographies, photos, plus an exclusive column written by Derek Laud (from Big Brother 6).

ntl customers with a 4Mb or 10Mb connection will also have access to a free, live 24/7 feed from the house, as part of their broadband plus package - only otherwise available on the Channel 4 website for a fee of £7.99.

Philip Snalune, managing director consumer products at ntl, said: "Big Brother 7 promises to be one of the must-watch events of the summer and this exclusive deal means our customers will be able to get all the news and gossip from the house as soon as it breaks.

"It's the first time that we've run content across ntl, Telewest and Virgin.net sites and with over eight million combined unique users a month we'll be looking to capitalise on this going forward."

Paul Whitehead, head of new business development at Channel 4 New Media, said: "We're delighted to have signed this deal with ntl which supports our strategy of making Channel 4 content available to viewers across all multi-media platforms."

Big Brother 7 coverage will be available on: http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother, http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/bigbrother and http://www.virgin.net/bigbrother7 from Thursday 18 May.

Ends

[paul11974]

nothing for the red button on ntl then ? just for ntl broadband customers

[ben1390]

The link http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother cannot be found

[Mick]

The link http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother cannot be found

Note that the press release said:

"Big Brother 7 coverage will be available on: http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother (http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother), http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/bigbrother (http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/bigbrother) and http://www.virgin.net/bigbrother7 (http://www.virgin.net/bigbrother7) from Thursday 18 May.

[Jules]

Nice to hear we are not going to be charged for it, good on you NTL :tu:

[ben1390]

Note that the press release said:

"Big Brother 7 coverage will be available on: http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother (http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother), http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/bigbrother (http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/bigbrother) and http://www.virgin.net/bigbrother7 (http://www.virgin.net/bigbrother7) from Thursday 18 May.

I really should read things properly before posting :dunce:

[paul11974]

Nice to hear we are not going to be charged for it, good on you NTL :tu:


but if you are under 4mb you will be charged for it :td:

[DerekRothwell]

but if you are under 4mb you will be charged for it :td:

NTL don't have a 4mb tier (yet) :mad:

[Stephen]

NTL don't have a 4mb tier (yet) :mad:They will from June.

[checker]

More rubbish cloging up the internet and slowing it down.

[Hans Gruber]

More rubbish cloging up the internet and slowing it down.

So it has a lot in common with your post then?

[Zee]

So it has a lot in common with your post then?

hahaha joker

Anyway, this is good, will be interesting to watch this :D

[Carth]

More rubbish cloging up the internet and slowing it down.


yep, you get my vote on that

Big Brother ... the show for people with no life :D

[AbyssUnderground]

yep, you get my vote on that

Big Brother ... the show for people with no life :D

I couldn't agree more!!!:D:D:D

[geekspeek]

It is on freeview erm... for free, erm.... on a television !!!

Just in case you don't want to go the ntl route !

[Zee]

I guess i and millions of people don't have a life then. :( damn ...

[Jules]

Aww never mind Jack as long as we are happy :)

[Mick]

Can the people who are not interested in BB keep out of this thread - this is not a discussion on anti-BB - further such posts will be removed. Thanks.

[sirsimonuk]

finally be able to watch BB when i want to via BBplus thanks ntl :)

[Chrysalis]

I hope its better then last years streaming, last year I found that direct of channel4 when their auth system broke their was no skipping but of broadband plus it was barely playable and often audio only.

Would also be nice if could pick camera to watch :)

[Hans Gruber]

Will this be live by the time they enter the house?

[mcmanic]

Will this be live by the time they enter the house?

hope so, really would like to see what they have to say after the Live show!

[mcmanic]

i take thats a no then, lol

[Zee]

Ok, the big brother site is live, www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother (http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother) - how do we go about watching live? The watch live button doesn't work!

[Hans Gruber]

I don't even have a watch live button :(

[Zee]

I don't even have a watch live button :(

See attachment, see if you see that Watch Live button ...?

[Hans Gruber]

No I don't have that, in IE or Firefox

[Zee]

Try clearing your cache, or restarting IE/Firefox?

[eoin.miskell]

I dont have the live button on IE or Opera!

[flashyphotos]

Yep tryied that

Still nothing in IE7 or Firefox here as well

[looselipsuk]

Same for me. No live button.

[Zee]

Ok, i refreshed, and don't see it anymore, glad i got the screenshot though, or people would call me a liar :P

[buba3d]

I can't even get on the brodband plus site FFS

[looselipsuk]

Still no luck. Cleared temporary files. Tried Ctrl/F5 and still no button to click.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

[Zee]

I can't even get on the brodband plus site FFS

I don't go through the Broadband Plus site since it trys to install DRM software onto my computer.

I'm going through www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother

[Russ]

Perhaps the live coverage is "coming soon" :rolleyes:

[buba3d]

You need to sign up to wach the free streaming of bb or so i was told

[mcmanic]

You need to sign up to wach the free streaming of bb or so i was told

what at BB website?

edit, cannot be BB website as it asks for CC details

[Hans Gruber]

Still nothing :(

[buba3d]

Sorry

I meant ntlworld, clcik on brodbandplus then sign up there.

*f'n error*
A system error has occurred within Broadband Plus. Please try again.

[IanUK]

No 'watch live' here either.

Why am I not surprised :)

[Zee]

The "Watch Live" button on www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother (http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother) is back again, for me anyway ...

[Jon T]

Sorry

I meant ntlworld, clcik on brodbandplus then sign up there.

*f'n error*
A system error has occurred within Broadband Plus. Please try again.

Yep, that's exactly the error I get

[Shin Gouki]

Yep, that's exactly the error I get

You're on 2mb. The stream is only available for people on 4mb and above so maybe thats why you're getting the error message?

[Zee]

You're on 2mb. The stream is only available for people on 4mb and above so maybe thats why you're getting the error message?

There is no such thing as 4MB till June 1st when 2MB will be 4MB, so shouldn't 2MB users be able to watch this?

I'm a 10MB customer and don't know where to watch the live stream.

[Jon T]

You're on 2mb. The stream is only available for people on 4mb and above so maybe thats why you're getting the error message?

http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/signupnow/get_broadbandplus.php

Clearly states that 2mb and 10mb get broadband plus free, it's been that way for a while, well before any talk of 4mb existed.

[andmaz]

I'm on 10 meg broadband and already Broadband plus registered but still cannot access live feed - is this actually supposed to be working yet?

[mcmanic]

oh well, usual wait and see procedure from NTL, would be nice to get something from day 1 that actually worked even if it was free.

[Jon T]

Right, sorted it.

The broadband plus signup script must check if your eligible for the service via your PC's IP address, if you've got a router between the CM and your PC then your PC's not gonna have a WAN IP.

So temporarily connecting my PC direct to the CM signing up to BB+ and then putting the network back to normal seems to have done the trick.

[ellie]

I'm on 10 meg broadband and already Broadband plus registered but still cannot access live feed

Same here :confused:

[Shin Gouki]

I stand corrected. :)

[HornetUK]

I go to the BB+ site and can access all the photo stuff etc it signs me in OK, then I try the BB link on this site but the page has no mention of live feed...I'm on 2MB.

[mcmanic]

I go to the BB+ site and can access all the photo stuff etc it signs me in OK, then I try the BB link on this site but the page has no mention of live feed...I'm on 2MB.

ditto

[ace_vz]

So... To get this 'free' service you need to:

A) Be a 2mb or 10mb customer
B) Have registered for BB+
C) Be using the USB connection from your modem

Well, i guess they can give it for free as so few of they're customer base will be able to view it.

Well done chaps.

[ben1390]

So... To get this 'free' service you need to:

A) Be a 2mb or 10mb customer
B) Have registered for BB+
C) Be using the USB connection from your modem

Well, i guess they can give it for free as so few of they're customer base will be able to view it.

Well done chaps.

Whats your source?

[ace_vz]

Whats your source?

Well, it was my sarcastic-self. as you need to be on bb+, you apparently need to have registered, and anyone i know with a router can not get on it. but 3 family members i know with usb connections all can. it seems fairly clear cut to me.

[IanUK]

I use a router am on 10mb and registered for BB+ and can't get it.
Usual programming skill at NTL it seems, they never get anything right first time.

I really wish they would spend money on the network and peering instead of this rubbish, especially when its rubbish that doesn't work.

[ben1390]

I am on 2mb BB, behind a router and i can get it :D:D:D

[Jon T]

I made no mention of needing to be on a USB connection, all I said was that for me I had to by-pass the router inorder to register for BB+.

I was still using the ethernet connection on my modem when I bypassed the router, so the USB only thing isn't right.

I'm able to access BB+ stuff from behind my router, just couldn't register for it going through my router.

[mcmanic]

i'm not using a router and i cannot get it

"EDIT"

I CAN NOW!

seems its just updated

athough not much cop on 2meg, stuttering audio every now and then and no moving pictures but rather slide show images

[looselipsuk]

I also now have the live button but each time the media player opens it crashes my IE. Re-booted and still the same problem. Tried Firefox and although the media player opens there is no steaming media and the screen just says 'Ready' at the bottom.
Any suggestions?

[Marloe]

I am on 10 MB connected via Ethernet and can get it. Honestly the video is running but the picture doesn't show when you do print screen. :)

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/3314/bb4ls.th.jpg (http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bb4ls.jpg)

[ben1390]

I made no mention of needing to be on a USB connection, all I said was that for me I had to by-pass the router inorder to register for BB+.

I was still using the ethernet connection on my modem when I bypassed the router, so the USB only thing isn't right.

I'm able to access BB+ stuff from behind my router, just couldn't register for it going through my router.

i know, i was intending that you didnt need to use your USB connection to get it

[mcmanic]

well roll on 4meg upgrades, its near enough unwatchable on 2meg

[Bytecon]

Works fine through a router here.

[ben1390]

well roll on 4meg upgrades, its near enough unwatchable on 2meg

Im not having any problems watching it through 2meg

[mcmanic]

Im not having any problems watching it through 2meg

your lucky then, total unwatchable here, sounds keeps breaking up and pictures instead of video

[Michael36]

I also now have the live button but each time the media player opens it crashes my IE. Re-booted and still the same problem. Tried Firefox and although the media player opens there is no steaming media and the screen just says 'Ready' at the bottom.
Any suggestions?

Yeah, make sure your cookies are set via firefox/IE for broadband plus [i.e so you get the broadband plus stuff rather than the sign up for it] and then
navigate to http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/auth/bigbrother/ews.php and the stream should open up in a stand alone media player.

[looselipsuk]

Yeah, make sure your cookies are set via firefox/IE for broadband plus [i.e so you get the broadband plus stuff rather than the sign up for it] and then
navigate to http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/auth/bigbrother/ews.php and the stream should open up in a stand alone media player.

Cookies are set so I automatically sign in to BB. Still the same. In Firefox the media window opens and sits there blank but saying 'Ready' at the bottom.
In IE the media player window opens and then IE crashes.
The web link takes me to a completely blank page.
Weird.
Maybe I need to do a repair install of XP.

[IanUK]

Works here now too, looks like someone did their job in the end.

[looselipsuk]

Solved the problem of IE crashing. Rolled back media player from the beta version 11 back to version 10 and all plays fine now.

[Hans Gruber]

Got it working here, pretty good quality for free :)

[tomw]

mine to hangs on the ready screen !!!!! anybody got a idiots guide on how to fix this ????:) :) :dunce:

[Chrysalis]

Well, it was my sarcastic-self. as you need to be on bb+, you apparently need to have registered, and anyone i know with a router can not get on it. but 3 family members i know with usb connections all can. it seems fairly clear cut to me.

works fine on ethernet here. But I dont use a router.

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have to admit after leaving it on for 10 mins its a big improvement over last year, higher bitrate and not one skip yet.

[otguk]

Does not work with firefox.... the way i have it set up, and that is to work with the other 99% of the internet. Come on get your plug-in`s sorted out ppl.

Works with IE.

Only one feed!

How many cameras are there in that house.

Should have a feed from all of them.

Yes am behind a router/firewall.

[Russ]

When I try to use it with IE7, all I get when I click on the 'watch live' link is another window open with the same page appearing in it :confused:

[Hans Gruber]

Does not work with firefox.... the way i have it set up, and that is to work with the other 99% of the internet. Come on get your plug-in`s sorted out ppl.

Works with IE.

Only one feed!

How many cameras are there in that house.

Should have a feed from all of them.

Yes am behind a router/firewall.

It would cost them a fortune to edit/censor a live stream from every camera in the house

[v0id]

have to admit after leaving it on for 10 mins its a big improvement over last year, higher bitrate and not one skip yet.

you were on 10 meg for last years big brother?

[James Henry]

you were on 10 meg for last years big brother?

He means that the stream itself is higher bitrate. The stream won't be 2Mbit let alone 10Mbit so it doesn't make any difference whether you're on 2 or 10 for these purposes.

[Zee]

Its finally working ...

www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother (http://www.ntlworld.com/bigbrother)

Watch live works!

[bilal]

comes up with ready for me and then does sod all... if i use the direct link comes up with proxy error, file may be in use or you may not have access to where the file is stored. Oh well, well done ntl :dozey:

[Zee]

Try here: www.ntlworld.com/video/bigbrother/s.php (http://www.ntlworld.com/video/bigbrother/s.php)

[bilal]

well firs it came on that are u are u a broadband plus subscrber. CLick here if you are... Opened new window which had the vidoe on it came up with ready and nothing happened. Refreshed the window you said Jack001 and it came up with windows media player and ready came up :(

[Zee]

I do get an error:

Sorry

The Big Brother live video is only available to ntl Broadband Plus subscribers.
If you are not a Broadband Plus subscriber, please click here (http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/).
If you are a Broadband Plus subscriber, you may not have been recognised because you have bookmarked this page rather than linking to it via the ntl Big Brother site (please click here (http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/auth/bigbrother/s.php#LoadStream) and we'll verify you are a Broadband Plus user).

I just click the verify link and it works fine, make sure you don't have a proxy or a IP hiding program running or something ...

[bilal]

im behind a router if that makes any difference. Most people dont seem to be complaining so it may only be me :(

[Hans Gruber]

I'm behind a router and it's fine, only problem I have is it won't work in firefox but IE is fine.

[Stephen]

I'm behind a router, it was working fine in IE yesterday but today it won't work in Firefox or IE.

It loads up but the media player just stays blank.

[Chrysalis]

It would cost them a fortune to edit/censor a live stream from every camera in the house

I remember either the 1st or 2nd series of big brother when I had sky digi there was 2 cameras to choose from on the interactive, obviousy not every camera but allowed a choice since they tend to split into 2 groups almost every year I think that would be a good thing to do.

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He means that the stream itself is higher bitrate. The stream won't be 2Mbit let alone 10Mbit so it doesn't make any difference whether you're on 2 or 10 for these purposes.

Yep, last year the stream was 384kbit and often reconnected at lower bitrate following skips etc. Now its 512kbit.

I was on 2mbit last year for informational purposes.

[otguk]

***This is Firefox calling***

http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/auth/bigbrother/ews.php (this comes from clicking on Watch Live, right clicking in the black space in pop-up box and selecting properties, then copying the url)

WMP pops up = error message

Go back to firefox and see the address its linking from...

http://www.ntlbroadbandplus.premiumtv.co.uk/streaming/asx/BigBrother?eventId=1984

Now delete until this is left....

http://www.ntlbroadbandplus.premiumtv.co.uk and you get this

http://www.ntlbroadbandplus.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/0,,12212,00.html

Well i found it strange. Its a Sunday morning.

[Hom3r]

I had problems when I followed the link http://www.ntlworld.com/microsites/tvradio/bigbrother/ and clicked PLAY ME, I disabled Google Toolbar Pop ups and I'm now watching live streaming.

If you are having provlems try disabling pop up blockers

[jellybaby]

This link works a treat :)

http://video.ntlbbvideo.co.uk/bigbrother_live

[otguk]

This link works a treat :)

http://video.ntlbbvideo.co.uk/bigbrother_live

No, sorry not 4 me, with FF any way.

[Chrysalis]

that link plays in 384kbit but is in seperate player rather then an IE window so I can keep on top.

[otguk]

I think its safe to say unless you have a newly installed MS/OS with all the defaults still, the link(watch live button) is not going to work.

I wonder if it works with linx?

[mcmanic]

Try here: www.ntlworld.com/video/bigbrother/s.php (http://www.ntlworld.com/video/bigbrother/s.php)

that link works better than going throught the NTL website and clinking on Live link for some reason, no skips or nothing

[buba3d]

http://video.ntlbbvideo.co.uk/bigbrother_live
This link was great but now all it seems to do is die.

[jellybaby]

http://video.ntlbbvideo.co.uk/bigbrother_live
This link was great but now all it seems to do is die.


Just tried it and it worked again.....must admit its becoming hit and miss

[drakken]

having no luck getting this, keep gettiing errors on my windows media player

[buba3d]

The link i posted has now died on its ****

just as it was getting good

[Albie]

What is the url of the stream in the pop-up player?

I need to play this in WMP because it's all over the place.

[sirsimon]

this maybe is url of stream in pop player

http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplus/auth/bigbrother/ews.php

[DerekRothwell]

http://www.ntlbroadbandplus.premiumtv.co.uk/streaming/asx/BigBrother?eventId=1984

[Albie]

In both of those links the stream is running slow and freezing every few seconds.

[Chrysalis]

this ran for over 24 hours yesterday and this morning on my pc after I just left it running accidently while I was out, but today skips galore.

[mcmanic]

weird cos mine in now running fine, lol

[nho1993]

my picture keeps feezing im on 10mb connected through ethernet, any reccomendations?

[DerekRothwell]

Can anyone explain to me exactly what the point is of having this live link into this pile of nonsense?
I've tuned in out of curiosity a few times, and all I ever hear is birds tweeting away.
My other half tells me its to do with legal stuff. Hardly much point in them broadcasting it if viewers can't hear any conversation.
Back to a real life for me...... :)

[Stephen]

Can anyone explain to me exactly what the point is of having this live link into this pile of nonsense?
I've tuned in out of curiosity a few times, and all I ever hear is birds tweeting away.
My other half tells me its to do with legal stuff. Hardly much point in them broadcasting it if viewers can't hear any conversation.
Back to a real life for me...... :)

Partly due to legal stuff but also they want to keep the good stuff for the highlights show:mad:

[DerekRothwell]

Partly due to legal stuff but also they want to keep the good stuff for the highlights show:mad:

Good stuff? blimey .. they'll be hard pressed to get any good stuff out of this :o:

[Albie]

Any one else getting a slideshow of still pictures instead of a stream? :mad:

[Chrysalis]

yeah I think its to do with keeping it for highlights. Weird tho since people watching the supposedbly live feed are more loyal and should be rewarded for it but then I can see why channel4 do it to make sure they tune in again for highlights.

[Pia]

yeah I think its to do with keeping it for highlights. Weird tho since people watching the supposedbly live feed are more loyal and should be rewarded for it but then I can see why channel4 do it to make sure they tune in again for highlights.
I thought this too, but i was watching the live stream last night and it was showing everything when Mikey went to the Diary Room and was awarded Shabaz's lead position in the Brotherhood, even showing the plasma when he was in the Diary room and they never used to do that!

[mcmanic]

mines not working now, nothing except a black screen and it saying ready

[zeus9876]

mines not working now, nothing except a black screen and it saying ready

Same here and a couple of other people....see this thread http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=47725

[mcmanic]

cheers, BTW still not working!

Grrrrr!

[Hom3r]

The streaming ain't wotking

[DerekRothwell]

I don't understand why so may people watch that pile of horse poo - just what exactly is it that attracts so many people to watch a pile of braindead overgrown children living in a goldfish bowl to the tune of birds tweeting and aeroplanes flying buy?

[Druchii]

I don't understand why so may people watch that pile of horse poo - just what exactly is it that attracts so many people to watch a pile of braindead overgrown children living in a goldfish bowl to the tune of birds tweeting and aeroplanes flying buy? You'll be wanting this thread instead ;)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=46960

[chickendippers]

The streaming ain't wotkingGive the various links a few clicks, it doesn't always seem to work first time. Also make sure you're using IE; I know it means getting virus' but it doesn't seem to work for me in Firefox.