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Timeless Stew
27-04-2006, 08:46
They send me a letter informing me of my good luck in lottery (I never bought a ticket), asking me for my bank details, so they can deposit the million. Suppose that I sent them my bank details, how can they use them?

They paid .57 euros to post the letter, so this scam must be profitable...

MovedGoalPosts
27-04-2006, 08:53
Don't even think about giving out your bank details. Identity theft is rife. They probably know enough about you already that the bank account number would be the last piece of the jigsaw.

Damien
27-04-2006, 09:21
I agree. No one gives something for nothing. This is a total scam. They cannot do much with your bank details (after all you can often give out bank details anyway, every cheque carrys them).

This is Identity theft

Halcyon
27-04-2006, 10:28
Definately a scam.
Nothing is free these days and even if they have paid to send you a letter, they know they could get access to much more of your money so dont really care about a small cost of sending a letter.
Never give out bank details.

LSainsbury
27-04-2006, 11:48
They send me a letter informing me of my good luck in lottery (I never bought a ticket), asking me for my bank details, so they can deposit the million. Suppose that I sent them my bank details, how can they use them?

They paid .57 euros to post the letter, so this scam must be profitable...

I got one of them on Tuesday as well!

Made me laugh...

"How would you like the prize paid - Check, Direct to Bank, Pick UP"

Pick up please - pay for me to go to Madrid someone!!!

:disturbd:

Saaf_laandon_mo
27-04-2006, 11:52
My last contract was at the Gambling Commission in Holborn (govt body regulating casinos and lotteries in the UK). It's amazing how many people fall for these scams by sending off passport details, bank details etc etc on the basis of getting an email promissing they have won money on foreign lotteries, and then write to the Gambling Commision moaning about not receiving their winnings.

The stupidity of some really is amazing......

Chris
27-04-2006, 13:48
They send me a letter informing me of my good luck in lottery (I never bought a ticket), asking me for my bank details, so they can deposit the million. Suppose that I sent them my bank details, how can they use them?

They paid .57 euros to post the letter, so this scam must be profitable...

It's Advance Fee Fraud. They don't want your bank details in order to plunder your account (although the others are right, they may be useful for identity theft purposes), they want them in order to make up phony documents, the better to convince you this is a serious operation.

When they have strung you along for a while, they will ask you for some fee or other charge they will claim is necessary to release the cash to you. If you pay, they will keep dreaming up more and more fees until you have realised you have been had.

The rationale of course is that if you stand to pocket a million, what's a few hundred in up-front fees ...

This is basically the same kind of scam as Nigerian 4-1-9 fraud, where you get an email from someone claiming they have $50 million to smuggle out of the country, and want to use your bank account to do it (with a generous payment for your trouble).

Jules
27-04-2006, 16:02
It really makes me angry that people can try to con others like this. I really do not know how they live with themselves!

danielf
27-04-2006, 16:15
It's Advance Fee Fraud. They don't want your bank details in order to plunder your account (although the others are right, they may be useful for identity theft purposes), they want them in order to make up phony documents, the better to convince you this is a serious operation.
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A bit of everything apparently. Identity theft and advance fees.
I got an email like this this week:


Euromillion Loteria EspaÃÃâ€*’±ol
Paseo De La Castellana 15-89, 28008 Madrid. Spain
Branch.
Ref. Nº: ES/007/05/12/MAD. Batch. Nº:
GHT/2907/333/05.


YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS WON THE LOTTERY.
We wish to congratulate you over your email success in our computer balloting sweepstake held on 20th April, 2006. This is a millennium scientific computer game in which email addresses were used. It is a promotional program aimed at encouraging internet users; therefore you do not need to buy ticket to enter for it. Your email address attached to ticket star number (4-5) drew the EUROMILLION lucky numbers 3-19-26-49-50 which consequently won the draw in the Second category.

You have been approved for the star prize of EUR 667,248.26. (Six Hundred And Sixty Seven Thousand, Two Hundred and Forty Eight Euros. Twenty Six Cents).

CONGRATULATIONS!!! You are advised to keep this winning very confidential until you receive your lump prize in your account or optional cheque issuance to you. This is a protective measure to avoid double claiming by people you may tell as we have had cases like this before, please send your Full Name, Home and Office Telephone & Fax Number, Mobile Tel Number and your winning ticket number, reference numbers and amount won information for processing of your winning fund to our registered claim agent in address below.

Paramount Trust Agency.
Mr. John Walter.
Address: Avenida de America 24
Madrid Spain.
E-mail: paramounttrust2@netscape.net


A little googling brought up this:

http://www.fraudwatchinternational.com/internet/lottery.shtml

Chris
28-04-2006, 10:05
I've mentioned it before on this forum, but if you really want to have fun winding up the people who send out these emails (or have fun laughing at those who have made a serious hobby out of winding them up), go and have a look around this site:

www.419eater.com

It's called Scambaiting. Find your way to the letters archive on that site and read the scambait called 'The Tale of the Painted Breast'. First time I read it I laughed so hard it hurt.

Stuart
28-04-2006, 10:10
They send me a letter informing me of my good luck in lottery (I never bought a ticket), asking me for my bank details, so they can deposit the million. Suppose that I sent them my bank details, how can they use them?

They paid .57 euros to post the letter, so this scam must be profitable...

Just write back saying they don't need your bank details to write you a cheque.

littld
28-04-2006, 10:48
I've mentioned it before on this forum, but if you really want to have fun winding up the people who send out these emails (or have fun laughing at those who have made a serious hobby out of winding them up), go and have a look around this site:

www.419eater.com

It's called Scambaiting. Find your way to the letters archive on that site and read the scambait called 'The Tale of the Painted Breast'. First time I read it I laughed so hard it hurt.

That is the best website I have seen this year. Thanks so much for making my day.;)

Druchii
28-04-2006, 10:55
I think i'm upto a few billion now with these scams on my Yahoo mailbox... I should be so rich by now...

Escapee
28-04-2006, 11:26
The last one I played with I gave the details of a guy who owes me money!

I have passed a few onto a friend (with her permission) she has a good laugh when they loose interest after finding out she was born and spent most of her life in Nigeria.:D

sir_drinks_alot
28-04-2006, 11:39
If it looks to good to be true that's Because it is rip up the letter now. !

Enuff
28-04-2006, 15:13
Looks like this guy also had a simular email... albeit back in 2004 - telling him he won 4 million euros. Link
(http://nirmalya.net/blog/archives/2004/08/10/i-won-4-million-euros/)

sherer
28-04-2006, 15:31
never understood how people fall for these scams

if they are going to give you £1 million but it costs a fee to get the money they why not just get them to pay you £1 million less the fees.. why send them your own money ?

it's a shame so many people get conned like this but don't think the the anti-spam and anti phishing software will ever be able to block all of this out

Florence
28-04-2006, 16:10
never understood how people fall for these scams

if they are going to give you £1 million but it costs a fee to get the money they why not just get them to pay you £1 million less the fees.. why send them your own money ?

it's a shame so many people get conned like this but don't think the the anti-spam and anti phishing software will ever be able to block all of this out
what about when they pay 57 euros to post from Spain a letter saying you have won 6,000,000 euros... Only problen they want identification with passport type picture.. sound more like they are ready to branch in identity theft.

ikthius
28-04-2006, 17:05
what would happen if you decided to give out random numbers and a random bank account?????

ik

Florence
28-04-2006, 17:44
It would be emptied fast. :D

ikthius
28-04-2006, 17:55
It would be emptied fast. :D

but surely if the name and the account numbers and the sort code and the bank name all do not match then you are making there life very hard?!

cause none would match then they could get nothing!

ik

patrickp
28-04-2006, 23:11
I've mentioned it before on this forum, but if you really want to have fun winding up the people who send out these emails (or have fun laughing at those who have made a serious hobby out of winding them up), go and have a look around this site:

www.419eater.com

It's called Scambaiting. Find your way to the letters archive on that site and read the scambait called 'The Tale of the Painted Breast'. First time I read it I laughed so hard it hurt.


I think Ebola Monkey Man (http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/) seems to have been the original 419 scam baiter...

Nidge
30-04-2006, 06:38
Shucks you lot have just ruined my day, I thought I'd won a million Euros last week when I got the letter through the door.:D :D :D :D

Jules
30-04-2006, 10:33
Never mind Nidge what you have never had you can't miss ;) lol

Nidge
30-04-2006, 10:36
Never mind Nidge what you have never had you can't miss ;) lol


Glad I gave them that dodgy credit card number then:D :D :D :D