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Stuart
26-11-2003, 14:13
Certain banks (the Nationwide being one) are now using Windows as the Operating System for Cashpoints. Now, don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Windows but I am slightly worried by this. After all, more Windows security holes get discovered than other O/s s. Do you really want that kind of OS handling your cash?


Have a look at http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=freechat&Number=991734&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0 for further discussion.
MrSums
26-11-2003, 14:26
Walking through Heathrow a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a couple of the announcement boards "rebooting" back into Windows. Its pretty endemic, I am afraid

MrSums
Scarlett
26-11-2003, 14:30
Walking through Heathrow a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a couple of the announcement boards "rebooting" back into Windows. Its pretty endemic, I am afraid

MrSums

We noticed that all the tills at centerparcs in suffolk (the one they just rebuilt) now run win95 embedded
Stuart
26-11-2003, 14:56
Walking through Heathrow a couple of weeks ago, I noticed a couple of the announcement boards "rebooting" back into Windows. Its pretty endemic, I am afraid

MrSums
A couple of years back, they replaced the platform monitors in the ticket hall at East Croydon station with plasma screens running off PCs.

I went in one day, and at least half of them were showing BIOS screens announcing that the PC had 64 Meg of RAM and was suffering a system disk failure..
TigaSefi
26-11-2003, 14:57
Win95 ? wierd.... in London Victoria Station in the shops section upstairs above platform 17 they use Windows 2000 Professional to run the music videos and one particular occasion, it ran out of memory or sumthing so you had windows showing an error msg on 15 screens or so lol.
Defiant
26-11-2003, 15:07
Windows 95 cannot handle the virtual memory to stay up for that long. Thats if they expect people to use it that is.

On another note I tried one of those picture booths the other day. It crashed. I told the guys who opened it up and that was running Linux (redhat) lol
After a reboot it was okay again but just goe's to show
Chris
26-11-2003, 16:02
I saw a fortune teller machine at an amusement arcade that had crashed - it was running Mac OS 7!
SMHarman
26-11-2003, 16:11
Certain banks (the Nationwide being one) are now using Windows as the Operating System for Cashpoints. Now, don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Windows but I am slightly worried by this. After all, more Windows security holes get discovered than other O/s s. Do you really want that kind of OS handling your cash?


Have a look at http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=freechat&Number=991734&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0 for further discussion.

Last time i saw one like this and put my card in it the machine actually worked and dispensed cash. It just had a big grey box you had to navigate around. Probably not much good to view you balance on screen , but fine to extract £50.

Security wise there are magic black scrambler boxes on the phone lines in and out of the ATMs and they connect into the banks cashpoint HQ. The ATM is not connected to a broadband internet connection AFAIK. The next gen I suppose will work over IP, but this will be the banks internal IP network, not the internet, thus protected by the bank firewalls.
Stuart
26-11-2003, 16:16
I saw a fortune teller machine at an amusement arcade that had crashed - it was running Mac OS 7!
Trust you to find a Mac! :rolleyes: :rofl: :p
Bifta
26-11-2003, 16:25
Certain banks (the Nationwide being one) are now using Windows as the Operating System for Cashpoints. Now, don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Windows but I am slightly worried by this. After all, more Windows security holes get discovered than other O/s s. Do you really want that kind of OS handling your cash?


Have a look at http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=freechat&Number=991734&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0 for further discussion.

Nationwide have been using Windows NT4 on a lot of their cashpoints for years now.
SMHarman
26-11-2003, 16:27
Nationwide have been using Windows NT4 on a lot of their cashpoints for years now.

It also allows them to run the flash and shockwave advertising when not dispensing cash.
Stuart
26-11-2003, 16:39
Security wise there are magic black scrambler boxes on the phone lines in and out of the ATMs and they connect into the banks cashpoint HQ. The ATM is not connected to a broadband internet connection AFAIK. The next gen I suppose will work over IP, but this will be the banks internal IP network, not the internet, thus protected by the bank firewalls.
Actually, somebody managed to infect two ATMs in America. These then began aggresively scanning for further victims. In the process, they tripped the Intrusion Detection Systems and were cut off..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/34175.html
SMHarman
26-11-2003, 17:00
Actually, somebody managed to infect two ATMs in America. These then began aggresively scanning for further victims. In the process, they tripped the Intrusion Detection Systems and were cut off..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/34175.html

Perhaps they should be using this on their ATMs

http://www.tripwire.com/products/network_devices/index.cfm
swooph
26-11-2003, 17:29
Hey,

If you ever have your hair cut in Toni&Guy hairdressers and watch 'Toni&Guy TV' in the salon, you may often see the Windows XP Embedded PC's reboot! I know this cause I used to install and support them for Toni&Guy!

Lee
Tricky
26-11-2003, 19:11
Nationwide have been using Windows NT4 on a lot of their cashpoints for years now.

As have many other banks, I think it's a requirement from NCR (provide most of the ATM internal systems - At massive costs!)
It's great when you get a blue screen!
Shaun
26-11-2003, 21:15
See here guy's, its started already!

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994425
Chris
26-11-2003, 21:23
Trust you to find a Mac! :rolleyes: :rofl: :p

I always aim to please! :D

I can't imagine why an arcade game was running on Mac OS tho'.
mrm1
26-11-2003, 21:35
I was in Argos the other day when I heard the tell tale windows Error sound playing over and over again. On further inspection one of their "quick buy" consols kept flashing up network error messages.

The worrying thing is these machines have processed my credit cards on many occation.

If they can crash that easy, who knows who can gain access to the core data.