View Full Version : Massive ping spikes BF2
Anyway to check the signal to my modem?Been connecting to uk BF2 sites for the last 2 months with no problems,last week i started getting kicked for 800+ ping.
I've run all anti-spyware,scanned all my HDD's
checked every conection to the modem [even removed my router] to see if the problem is my end but cant get to the bottom of it.
Any help would be great.
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http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bf20qv.jpg
Ran a quick trace to a UK only server
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http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6791/bbc5vs.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbc5vs.jpg)
Thats what i get to the BBC
What modem is it? You can load a certain IP address and it allows you to see your SNR levels etc on some modems.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=26006
I think its the NTL home 200 is that the ambit one?
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Downstream SNR 32.3 dB
These ping spikes are getting annoying.
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1st 128K took 1562 ms = 83913 Bytes/sec = approx 698 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 563 ms = 232810 Bytes/sec = approx 1937 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1265 ms = 103614 Bytes/sec = approx 862 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 860 ms = 152409 Bytes/sec = approx 1268 kbits/sec
1st 128K took 1063 ms = 123304 Bytes/sec = approx 1026 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1359 ms = 96447 Bytes/sec = approx 802 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 782 ms = 167611 Bytes/sec = approx 1395 kbits/sec
1st 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1094 ms = 119810 Bytes/sec = approx 997 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 672 ms = 195048 Bytes/sec = approx 1623 kbits/sec
1st 128K took 1265 ms = 103614 Bytes/sec = approx 862 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 829 ms = 158109 Bytes/sec = approx 1315 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1797 ms = 72939 Bytes/sec = approx 607 kbits/sec
1st 128K took 1032 ms = 127008 Bytes/sec = approx 1057 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1093 ms = 119919 Bytes/sec = approx 998 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1547 ms = 84727 Bytes/sec = approx 705 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1266 ms = 103532 Bytes/sec = approx 861 kbits/sec
What is going on with my connection?Pulling my hair out here.
Ignition
19-03-2006, 22:14
High CPU utilisation on you uBR, the ping spikes are being caused when certain routing protocols run, causing the CPU to go up to max and causing issues with the uBR's handling of your traffic.
Solution is for ntl to upgrade the CPU.
That's my guesstimate of what's wrong anyway.
Worth giving CS a call tomorrow or will they say that there is nothing they can do?
Had a look at the connection from modem to UBR ect that seems ok
UBR is busy, no plans for upgrade on it as yet. But unless it's like what Ignition says can't see anything drastically wrong thats causing such extreme ping results
Ok thanks for taking the time to look.Appreciate it.
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:09:17 GMT
1st 128K took 953 ms = 137536 Bytes/sec = approx 1144 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1454 ms = 90146 Bytes/sec = approx 750 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 687 ms = 190789 Bytes/sec = approx 1587 kbits/sec
1st 128K took 688 ms = 190512 Bytes/sec = approx 1585 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1141 ms = 114875 Bytes/sec = approx 956 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1000 ms = 131072 Bytes/sec = approx 1091 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
Still getting very odd results.Iguess these would explain my erratic pings ingame.
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Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:15:14 GMT
1st 128K took 969 ms = 135265 Bytes/sec = approx 1125 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1516 ms = 86459 Bytes/sec = approx 719 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 625 ms = 209715 Bytes/sec = approx 1745 kbits/sec
can 1745kbits/sec be right?
Been on to TS today and they ran a few tests.My modem is showing really high ping times on there system and a engineer is being booked as i type.
Will let you know the outcome.
Thx
Engineer booked for 1200-1800 Tuesday 21st March
Sweet
make sure you have not set it to lan in the game options, i turned it back to the other option and now its a bit better!!!
Ignition
21-03-2006, 06:28
Had a look at the connection from modem to UBR ect that seems ok
UBR is busy, no plans for upgrade on it as yet. But unless it's like what Ignition says can't see anything drastically wrong thats causing such extreme ping results
Nah those pings are messy but they aren't extreme ;) Upstream utilisation of no more than perhaps 65-70% will cause those. Downstream would have to be pretty close to full.
The intermittent huge spikes made me think CPU though.
OP you've an engineer coming, good, not sure what they're going to be able to do but maybe they'll find something that isn't helping :)
Engineer been and gone,basically told that NTL cannot cope with the Bandwidth caused by the release of 10MB and its affecting the rest of the Network [tell me something i dont know!] he also said there was nothing they could do.
Welcome to NTL have a nice day.
Thats the second NTL employee to admit there is a serious problem in certain areas, shame their management can't be as honest and give us a statement about what they plan to do about it, speeds to the USA are sub 3 meg at peak times, which is worse than my old 3 meg connection, and I'm one of the lucky ones, at least my UK speeds are ok (for now)
Why are they continuing to take on new 10meg customers, isn't that illegal ?
They are selling something they cannot provide in those areas.
Sigh, I guess another Watchdog appearance beckons for NTL, they should get a season ticket for that program, their uselessness knows no bounds :)
Nah those pings are messy but they aren't extreme ;) Upstream utilisation of no more than perhaps 65-70% will cause those. Downstream would have to be pretty close to full.
The intermittent huge spikes made me think CPU though.
OP you've an engineer coming, good, not sure what they're going to be able to do but maybe they'll find something that isn't helping :)
I did a quick ping and seemed ok at the time.
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Thats the second NTL employee to admit there is a serious problem in certain areas, shame their management can't be as honest and give us a statement about what they plan to do about it, speeds to the USA are sub 3 meg at peak times, which is worse than my old 3 meg connection, and I'm one of the lucky ones, at least my UK speeds are ok (for now)
Why are they continuing to take on new 10meg customers, isn't that illegal ?
They are selling something they cannot provide in those areas.
Sigh, I guess another Watchdog appearance beckons for NTL, they should get a season ticket for that program, their uselessness knows no bounds :)
Just to put things into perpective, the service tech that visited will not know or have been told any info about these issues that are occuring. He is just giving an opinion, not based on fact or anything else.
The engineer in question also has NTL BB and lives not far from me.He told me he is having exactly the same problems.
Chrysalis
22-03-2006, 06:59
High CPU utilisation on you uBR, the ping spikes are being caused when certain routing protocols run, causing the CPU to go up to max and causing issues with the uBR's handling of your traffic.
Solution is for ntl to upgrade the CPU.
That's my guesstimate of what's wrong anyway.
Ignition when you left was their ways for people to monitor cpu utilisation no the ubr's?
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I did a quick ping and seemed ok at the time.
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Just to put things into perpective, the service tech that visited will not know or have been told any info about these issues that are occuring. He is just giving an opinion, not based on fact or anything else.
Sollp then what is your opinion of what would cause performance deteriation at peak hours only?
Ignition
22-03-2006, 10:08
Ignition when you left was their ways for people to monitor cpu utilisation no the ubr's?
Yep.
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I did a quick ping and seemed ok at the time.
Key words there 'quick' and 'at the time' though dude :(
Not sure what you have access to though, I rarely tested by pinging in that manner as it's too open to customer traffic making it go higher (as a certain person I know used to do to avoid paying his bill), I tended to use extended DOCSIS ping or just look at minislot utilisation on the upstream. If uBR CPU was running high it was very apparent from being logged onto it.
Stats from the BADGER might be handy too if you can't test at 'peak' loading times, along with loads of other pretty stats knocking about the place.
Ignition suspended?
Looks like we've just lost a fountain of information :(
Oh and a nice guy :p:
I have never had ping issues, especially not to Multiplay. I generally get 8-12ms pings :)
The service is upto so you can't expect 10mbit all the time. I generally get lower speeds during the evening but this doesn't bother me because I still get rock stable low pings.
Yep.
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Key words there 'quick' and 'at the time' though dude :(
Not sure what you have access to though, I rarely tested by pinging in that manner as it's too open to customer traffic making it go higher (as a certain person I know used to do to avoid paying his bill), I tended to use extended DOCSIS ping or just look at minislot utilisation on the upstream. If uBR CPU was running high it was very apparent from being logged onto it.
Stats from the BADGER might be handy too if you can't test at 'peak' loading times, along with loads of other pretty stats knocking about the place.
Look that is why i stated Quick and and that time, i know some people know what they are talking about so it's not a case of i know more than.. as i said i did a quick ping and at that time it seemed ok. Yes a quick ping using DOS is a very basic test.
Yes i have looked at the Badger report. Yes the utilisation is peaking. Yes like lots of things there are need for upgrades ect.
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Ignition when you left was their ways for people to monitor cpu utilisation no the ubr's?
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Sollp then what is your opinion of what would cause performance deteriation at peak hours only?
Like, well if your wanting me to say more traffic at those times could be the issue, then there you go i said it. but i like to think there could well be other issues as well, installation, PC, local network, noise on the network ect
Im getting put onto 2MB service for 2 months at 1MB price to see if it cures it.I dont imagine for 1 minute it will but at least NTL are trying to help me .
:D
With all the recent trouble its hard to tell whats going on, I wonder why Ignition was suspended - telling the truth perhaps ?
Chrysalis
23-03-2006, 13:02
Also concur whats the reason for the suspension, ntl threatening action?
My post in another thread asking was removed, they don't want us to know.
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:38:07 GMT
1st 128K took 1266 ms = 103532 Bytes/sec = approx 861 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1906 ms = 68768 Bytes/sec = approx 572 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
2 out of 4 isn't bad:dozey:
Had a call from Sky today offering to beat my deal from NTL
If this carries on i will be taking them up on it.
Chrysalis
23-03-2006, 22:32
shows how bad things are getting if ntl cannot max out 1meg connections.
It's a nitemare mate,main use for this PC is BF2 and CSS[play a lot of ED clan matches,well did].The last 2 weeks have been terrible, i dont even bother trying to join a server as i know that within 1 minute of joining i will be kicked for high ping [believe me its high]Lowest ping to a UK server i get is approx 14ms.
That was before all this started.Now im lucky if it stays at 100,more often than not its at 700-800 and unplayable.
Tonight made me laugh,i was chatting on msn with a mate and he sent me a 300kb file.Now i know msn isn't the greatest for file sharing speed but it took nearly 3 minutes!:Yikes:
Chrysalis
24-03-2006, 11:30
Well to me its an indication that contention ratios have effectively increased which I predicted pre 10meg rollout and as such their is less kbit/sec per customer.
Well to me its an indication that contention ratios have effectively increased which I predicted pre 10meg rollout and as such their is less kbit/sec per customer.
Which would be ok if the speeds didn't drop to less than 3 meg speeds at peak times, they gave people more speed but when most people use their connection its actually slower than they had before.
Quite agree, its slower and thats what sux. Okay they did knock a few quid off, at about the same time time they knocked off a few meg too. :(
Chrysalis
24-03-2006, 15:11
Higher contention ratios pretty much garantuees reduced performance, the only time you wouldnt notice is when the ratios were low enough anyway so an increase wouldnt bring it high enough to affect users.
Ignition
24-03-2006, 15:21
Well to me its an indication that contention ratios have effectively increased which I predicted pre 10meg rollout and as such their is less kbit/sec per customer.
Not really accurate, there is more bandwidth available per customer, however there are also higher max speeds possible.
Contention ratio = Bandwidth available / bandwidth sold.
This has probably worsened a bit but bandwidth provisioned for each customer will have increased.
Now on the 2MB service and it seems much more stable [so far]
Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:32:33 GMT
1st 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
4th 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 1950 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
Chrysalis
24-03-2006, 15:42
Not really accurate, there is more bandwidth available per customer, however there are also higher max speeds possible.
Contention ratio = Bandwidth available / bandwidth sold.
This has probably worsened a bit but bandwidth provisioned for each customer will have increased.
So how am I getting bandwidth below then what I had in november.
November 2mbit all night long.
Now below 2mbit in evening.
BF2 now has the odd glitch but it was like that before i had the problems with 800+ping.
Could it just be that the 1MB service is getting hit harder by the extra bandwidth being created by 10MB?
Chrysalis
26-03-2006, 10:39
1meg 2meg 10meg all share the same bandwidth pool.
Ignition
26-03-2006, 13:31
So how am I getting bandwidth below then what I had in november.
November 2mbit all night long.
Now below 2mbit in evening.
Contention is irrelevant until the pipes max out, isn't it? They weren't maxed before but they might be now. People have more bandwidth per cable modem but are also using more at peak times.
I've just come off a couple of Multiplay BF2 servers and a private one as well, tbh I had to because it was absolutely unplayable on all of them.
I had the "There is a problem with your connection" every 10 seconds, and was unable to move. Looking at the scoreboard I found my ping was climbing from about 20 up to 800 plus :mad:
Tonight was the worst ever, it was just as if I was playing with a torrent running or something.
I'm supposed to be on 10 meg too, 2 meg was much better for gaming looking back. I even swapped to a standalone modem thinking that would cheer things up a bit, but it never has.
I'm not concerned about my d/l speeds particularly, but these ping spikes have got to stop :confused:
Yeh after the initial improvement to my ping,it's back to normal ie unplayable.
Already looking for a new ISP as NTL obviously cannot provide me with what i need.
hammered
28-03-2006, 10:06
Yeh after the initial improvement to my ping,it's back to normal ie unplayable.
Already looking for a new ISP as NTL obviously cannot provide me with what i need.
Para, Are you using a firewall at all?
Makes no difference if firewall is enabled or not.Nothing has changed on my system from 4 weeks ago when BF2 was awesome gameplay.Now its just depressing:( :erm:
LemonyBrainAid
28-03-2006, 14:02
I've got 2MB NTL and play BF2 perfectly on a ntl:home 200 modem.
Can't help you though mate - gonna go play bf2..
*touch wood* So far, other then being put on the 1mb service for no apparent reason for a week, I've not had major issues with this speed increase. Certainly not been seeing >3Mb/s during peaks but when I have been playing online (mostly BF2 ;) ) at those times pings have been reasonable.
When they did the 3Mb (or was it the 1Mb :confused: ) I basicly couldn't play anything online for about 3 months during peak times (i.e. all the times that I wasn't at work or sleeping :rolleyes: ) till they sorted the local upgrades.
Maybe they could block file sharing during peak hours, it's some what easier to download CD/DVDs while asleep then it is to play BF2. :D
hammered
28-03-2006, 15:43
Makes no difference if firewall is enabled or not.Nothing has changed on my system from 4 weeks ago when BF2 was awesome gameplay.Now its just depressing:( :erm:
What firewall are you using? I know that BF2 is quite sensitive to certain firewalls. For instance I know that BF2 tends to have problems with the last update to version 6 of zonealarm. Switching this off makes a hell of a difference to my gameplay. I never used to have problems with BF2 at first, but then I started getting major lag problems. Turning off Zonealarm when I play it makes it playable if I find I start getting lags in the game...
I use the WindowsXP SP2 firewall.Although BF2 is listed as a exception
What firewall are you using? I know that BF2 is quite sensitive to certain firewalls. For instance I know that BF2 tends to have problems with the last update to version 6 of zonealarm. Switching this off makes a hell of a difference to my gameplay. I never used to have problems with BF2 at first, but then I started getting major lag problems. Turning off Zonealarm when I play it makes it playable if I find I start getting lags in the game... Not related to BF2, but a lot of Everquest players have also reported problems with recent updates to Zone Alarm and switching it off giving marked improvement in server lag.
Just something for those having similar problems to consider. :)
new patch is out and there seems to be talk of a fix for that punkbuster software as well but not in the notes.....
Mine is running fine again only get the odd ping spike but not long enough to be booted.Dont know what NTL did but its fixed my issue.
Can anyone explain why the pings to many european servers are higher than to america?
Chrysalis
03-04-2006, 15:36
I get 100ms pings before I exit ntl's network at times never mind even the eu, the answer would be is congestion. Doing a traceroute might indicate to you where it starts.
MaD FOr iT
03-04-2006, 18:53
Can anyone explain why the pings to many european servers are higher than to america? yer i having probs with some euro servers mainly gameservers.net been like this for over a month now just bad routing i guess :S..
iam also lagging in bf2 as well mainly packet loss it feels like i checked my firewall ect spywere ect all seeems fine,i done sevral trace routes ect here is my results
Downstream Receive Power Level : -1.9 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 31.7 dB
Upstream Transmit Power Level : 47.25 dBmV
my leval is a low no?
i know this is a traceroute to usa using dsl reports but i find it a lil usefull
From East Coast - USA to YOU
Hop Host LOSS Rcv Sent Best Avg Worst
0 166.90.136.33 0% 60 60 0.35 0.43 0.63
1 ae-1-55.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net 0% 60 60 0.64 3.43 88.97
2 as-0-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net 0% 60 60 66.11 68.33 121.56
3 ae-0-56.gar2.London1.Level3.net 0% 60 60 66.10 68.78 180.66
4 195.50.91.70 0% 60 60 66.39 68.39 81.97
5 win-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 67.63 71.21 157.29
6 win-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 68.47 73.39 201.39
7 man-bb-b-so-600-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 73.23 76.51 175.13
8 manc-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 73.18 73.35 73.67
9 oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan31.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 73.79 80.81 172.72
10 ubr01oldh-ge02.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 74.00 74.86 89.45
11 cpc3-oldh1-6-0-cust246.manc.cable.ntl.com 2% 59 60 80.63 85.97 135.47
Pass:
From West Coast - USA to YOU
Hop Host LOSS Rcv Sent Best Avg Worst
0 unknown.Level3.net 0% 60 60 0.61 4.17 74.18
1 ae-1-51.bbr1.SanJose1.Level3.net 0% 60 60 0.69 2.70 65.75
2 as-0-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net 0% 60 60 141.59 143.37 167.44
3 ae-0-54.gar2.London1.Level3.net 0% 60 60 141.71 146.35 250.06
4 195.50.91.70 0% 60 60 141.90 143.24 152.40
5 win-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 142.98 146.32 209.72
6 win-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 145.60 152.97 275.70
7 man-bb-b-so-600-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 148.79 153.10 223.89
8 manc-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 148.77 150.11 171.50
9 oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan33.inet.ntl.com 0% 60 60 149.40 155.18 213.24
10 ubr01oldh-ge02.inet.ntl.com 2% 59 60 149.76 151.00 170.02
11 cpc3-oldh1-6-0-cust246.manc.cable.ntl.com 2% 59 60 156.01 164.
shows a bad server @ my main exchange?
any 1 else from oldham or manchester having same probs
ping www.bbc.co.uk (http://www.bbc.co.uk) -t
Pinging www.bbc.net.uk (http://www.bbc.net.uk) [212.58.224.127] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.224.127: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=245
lol sry for all these but i just hope some 1 can make sense of this and maybee help :)
Chrysalis
03-04-2006, 20:45
Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.85] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=246
Request timed out.
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=246
Reply from 212.58.224.85: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=246
Ping statistics for 212.58.224.85:
Packets: Sent = 22, Received = 21, Lost = 1 (4% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 97ms, Average = 45ms
Asha'man Jay
06-04-2006, 00:12
Been getting problems all day.
virtually 4 months perfect then this
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
| 10.232.168.1 - 4 | 26 | 25 | 0 | 200 | 2407 | 15 |
| renf-t2cam1-a-v116.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 26 | 26 | 0 | 176 | 2297 | 16 |
| renf-t2core-a-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 26 | 26 | 0 | 164 | 2188 | 32 |
| ren-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 26 | 26 | 15 | 154 | 2078 | 16 |
| bre-bb-b-so-110-0.inet.ntl.com - 8 | 26 | 24 | 15 | 158 | 1969 | 31 |
| bre-bb-a-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 26 | 26 | 15 | 247 | 2953 | 31 |
| gfd-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 26 | 26 | 15 | 259 | 2844 | 31 |
| redb-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com - 4 | 26 | 25 | 15 | 251 | 2735 | 31 |
| 195.66.226.224 - 0 | 25 | 25 | 15 | 246 | 2625 | 31 |
| opt48.multiplay.co.uk - 4 | 25 | 24 | 15 | 231 | 2516 | 16 |
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WinMTR - 0.8.
Was spiking to 3500 sometimes. BF2 is pointless with ping like this.
hammered
06-04-2006, 10:32
My connection seems to have settled down a bit of late. Although I do now have to shut down zone alarm to be able to play BF2... I still do get at least once or twice a day lost connections. Usually right in the middle of a game, which is very frustrating especially when I'm having a good round...:mad:
I'm still thinking of dropping my speed down to the 2MB line though. Paying 34.99 for what I originally signed up as a 10MB line, now only for it to be degraded to a *upto 10MB* line, seems now to be steep.
My connection seems to have settled down a bit of late. Although I do now have to shut down zone alarm to be able to play BF2... I still do get at least once or twice a day lost connections. Usually right in the middle of a game, which is very frustrating especially when I'm having a good round...:mad:
I'm still thinking of dropping my speed down to the 2MB line though. Paying 34.99 for what I originally signed up as a 10MB line, now only for it to be degraded to a *upto 10MB* line, seems now to be steep.
Couldn't agree more.
James Henry
08-04-2006, 02:35
I'm still thinking of dropping my speed down to the 2MB line though. Paying 34.99 for what I originally signed up as a 10MB line, now only for it to be degraded to a *upto 10MB* line, seems now to be steep.
With all due as speeds go up you will get max performance less and less. You were never sold a guaranteed 10Mbit service and will never be sold a guaranteed service from any provider without paying megabucks for it.
I appreciate that this isn't always clear and that it's easy to think that you've been sold something that will always work at full speed but those horrid terms and conditions that no-one actually reads along with the small print outside of them makes it perfectly clear that performance is in no way guaranteed.
You only 'thought' you signed up for 10Mbit, no degredation was done at any point.
That withstanding if you can't hit that 10Mbit at any time day or night and you are seeing not much better than 2Mbit at peak times there's clearly a problem there.
Chrysalis
08-04-2006, 04:12
To be fair I can see why people expect the full 10meg, the product has a 75gig cap. The cap assumably is to protect the shared pool of bandwidth from been swamped and to ensure good performance which of course isn't happening.
thetitletrack
09-04-2006, 14:14
I've been getting the same problem with BF2, for the last week it has been completely unplayable.
I normally get on fine with pings of 10-25ms on UK servers, but now it seems to be running extremely slow (400+) and Admins are kicking me from servers for high pings.
I've had a good look around and done many different ping and trace tests, it all seems to be coming back with these sort of pings (300-500ms) - why has the quality of connection went down so suddenly?
I'm in Glasgow at the moment: -
Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:09:33 UTC
1st 128K took 2394 ms = 54750 Bytes/sec = approx 456 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 3525 ms = 37184 Bytes/sec = approx 309 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 2964 ms = 44221 Bytes/sec = approx 368 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 4707 ms = 27846 Bytes/sec = approx 232 kbits/sec
It's pretty crap from what I was getting a few weeks ago - beginning to think 10Meg was a bad idea.
I'm moving house in a few weeks and I will be very close to the nearest Proxy server (Anniesland -> Renfrew Server is probably 2 miles at the most as the crow flies.)
I wonder if this will help.
Oh and by the way, I use AVG, Spy Sweeper and Stopzilla but these are all switched off before BF2 gaming. Windows Firewall has no effect if BF2 is an exception.
Anyone got anything similar up this way?
To be fair, most of my problems disappeared with the latest 1.22 patch for BF2, it has been much better since then. In fact completely different, it has gone from unplayable to rather quite nice :erm:
That's not to say there aren't any network issues, but all my "There is a problem with your connection" popups have gone. There is no netgraph for BF2 so I can't keep track of the quality of the connection, but it sure is better.
Just been on Wireplay TFC server and that was showing me pinging from anywhere between 40 and 300 at a guess, so that isn't right, but I don't think it's anything to do with NTL tbh .
Isn't online gaming fun ;)
its very bad to multiplay servers today, im getting over 150 ping where it used to be around 10.
Not only is the routing to europe very bad but now the UK servers are unplayable
Time to look for a new isp :rant:
hammered
11-04-2006, 09:42
[quote=James Henry]With all due as speeds go up you will get max performance less and less. You were never sold a guaranteed 10Mbit service and will never be sold a guaranteed service from any provider without paying megabucks for it.
You only 'thought' you signed up for 10Mbit, no degredation was done at any point.
[quote]
Actually I think you'll find that the original send up of the speed upgrades was for full 10MB. At no point did they ever mention *upto*. Well... not until this year that is, when they realised that they haven't got the infrastructure to cope with it all. That coupled with the fact that all they seem to be doing is spending vast amounts of money (which they don't have) on these stupid bl**dy mergers!!!
NTL haven't learnt there lesson from the last time, when they nearly went TU it seems!!!
NTL have a major market share here, but if they don't back it up. They'll soon start to see that market eaten away. Especially when you can get the same sort of service, but more stable from other ISP's... Remember, it's only *upto* 10MB, the other services maybe only upto 8MB, but they are hitting the higher speeds more often, and more realiably than NTL. With this latest episode (traffic-shaping) NTL are turning into a big joke!!!
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